TRUE BIBLICAL SABBATH, NOT MAN'S SABBATH
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Seems like this ignatius knew the jewish apostles but once anti-semitism ruined the church he jumped on the bandwagon. Its a shame such greek ways and thinking have killed christianity we really need to go back to our jewish roots. Otherwise how will we understand our jewish bibles? Relate to our jewish messiah? Or understand our jewish apostle fathers?
Name one thing that is my thought, I'm not saying read so and so's book or any man's comments. Everything I'm writing is from scripture, it just bothers you that you can't prove it wrong, because it's God's Word that you're trying to fight against.
Like Yeshua said to Paul on the road to demascus, why do you kick against to goads? So I suggest you stop kicking.
Like Yeshua said to Paul on the road to demascus, why do you kick against to goads? So I suggest you stop kicking.
Jewish bibles? I thought the Old Testament was written in Hebrew, later translated into Greek for Hellenized Jews, and the New Testament as written in Greek. Hebrew is only one part of the bible, not the ENTIRE bible.
How will we understand the Greek New Testament with Hebrew? I'd like to know. I'd like to hear you explain the Logos of The Gospel According to John without mentioning Stoicism and ancient Greek philosophy...because after all, the concept of Logos came from ancient Greek philosophy.
Anyways...
"οὐκ ἔνι Ἰουδαῖος οὐδὲ Ελλην, οὐκ ἔνι δοῦλος οὐδὲ ἐλεύθερος, οὐκ ἔνι ἄρσεν καὶ θῆλυ: πάντες γὰρ ὑμεῖς εἷς ἐστε ἐν Χριστῷ Ἰησοῦ." Galatians 3:28.
How will we understand the Greek New Testament with Hebrew? I'd like to know. I'd like to hear you explain the Logos of The Gospel According to John without mentioning Stoicism and ancient Greek philosophy...because after all, the concept of Logos came from ancient Greek philosophy.
Anyways...
"οὐκ ἔνι Ἰουδαῖος οὐδὲ Ελλην, οὐκ ἔνι δοῦλος οὐδὲ ἐλεύθερος, οὐκ ἔνι ἄρσεν καὶ θῆλυ: πάντες γὰρ ὑμεῖς εἷς ἐστε ἐν Χριστῷ Ἰησοῦ." Galatians 3:28.
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The new testament was written by jews (except luke) primarily for jews in gentile cities. It has huge jewish influence and cultural and historical backgrounds, and although some greek context comes into it as with logos it was inevitable given the jews had a jewish culture within the greek one. But the hebrew mindset and influence is the main thrust behind the nt and indeed the entire bible. The greek way never replaced the jewish way and neither should it.
Frequently Asked Questions About Hebrew Roots
Hebrew Roots FAQ's and Myths
Hebrew Roots FAQ's and Myths
Myth.
It is impossible to understand the Bible unless one uses a "Hebraic" mindset. Christians have a Greek mindset or western gentile mindset and therefore can't understand the true meaning of the Bible.
A.
Our understanding of Scripture is not dependant on anyone but the Holy Spirit. Since the majority of the New Testament is written for declaring Christ to all mankind and learning about Him, it would be foolish at best to suggest that Gentiles must think like someone else. The NT was written so that both Jews and Gentiles could understand the Gospel of Jesus Christ, first and foremost, and the need of salvation. God offered salvation to all mankind, which was what the prophets wrote about and waited for.
It is impossible to understand the Bible unless one uses a "Hebraic" mindset. Christians have a Greek mindset or western gentile mindset and therefore can't understand the true meaning of the Bible.
A.
Our understanding of Scripture is not dependant on anyone but the Holy Spirit. Since the majority of the New Testament is written for declaring Christ to all mankind and learning about Him, it would be foolish at best to suggest that Gentiles must think like someone else. The NT was written so that both Jews and Gentiles could understand the Gospel of Jesus Christ, first and foremost, and the need of salvation. God offered salvation to all mankind, which was what the prophets wrote about and waited for.
1 John 2:26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. 27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
Matthew 13:17 For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.
Romans 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, 26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
Hebrews 11:13; 1Peter 1:10-11, Luke 24:44
Jeremiah 23:5-6 5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. 6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.
2Timothy 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
1John 2:20-21 20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. 21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.
John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
John 17:20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
1Co 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
1Co 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
Matthew 13:17 For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.
Romans 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, 26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
Hebrews 11:13; 1Peter 1:10-11, Luke 24:44
Jeremiah 23:5-6 5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. 6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.
2Timothy 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
1John 2:20-21 20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. 21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.
John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
John 17:20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
1Co 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
1Co 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
If we can't understand the Scriptures or know it, we cannot wield it---it is spiritually discerned. And it doesn't say it requires thinking with a Hebraic mindset.
Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Myth.
We need to go back to OUR Jewish Roots
A.
Many state and believe that this means that because Jesus was a Jew and followed Torah we must also. The Gentiles, who make a large part of the Messianic and Hebrew Roots movements are not Jewish. Therefore one cannot 'go back' to something that was not ours in the first place. There are Jews worldwide who find it an affront for Gentiles pretending to be Jewish, pretending to participate in what they feel are Jewish traditions and practices. In it is perhaps the ultimate anti-semitism, because the behaviors not only offend actual Jews, but Gentiles are known to be claiming to be the real Jews. That leaves those who are actual Jews as being imposters according to some within Hebrew Roots. We see then, that we have the doctrine of Jesus was Jewish being corrupted into being those within Hebrew Roots are the 'real Jews' and they are the ones having the only truth.
Christianity and Judaism are almost entirely different in beliefs, and those who do not understand that have become a stumbling block to Jews. Those within Judaism reject Jesus Christ, the New Testament and reinterpret prophecies and other Scriptures with that in mind, aside from the incorporation of the Talmud and Kabbalah by many. Judaism today is rabbinic Judaism. We cannot dismiss those facts. There are practicing Jews who have stated that those within Hebrew Roots and Messianics are straddling a fence with one foot in Judaism and one foot in Christianity. They urge that individuals make a choice on which they are actually going to follow, because it cannot be both.
We are followers of Jesus Christ who was God manifest in the flesh. And He brought a New Covenant that was unique.
We need to go back to OUR Jewish Roots
A.
Many state and believe that this means that because Jesus was a Jew and followed Torah we must also. The Gentiles, who make a large part of the Messianic and Hebrew Roots movements are not Jewish. Therefore one cannot 'go back' to something that was not ours in the first place. There are Jews worldwide who find it an affront for Gentiles pretending to be Jewish, pretending to participate in what they feel are Jewish traditions and practices. In it is perhaps the ultimate anti-semitism, because the behaviors not only offend actual Jews, but Gentiles are known to be claiming to be the real Jews. That leaves those who are actual Jews as being imposters according to some within Hebrew Roots. We see then, that we have the doctrine of Jesus was Jewish being corrupted into being those within Hebrew Roots are the 'real Jews' and they are the ones having the only truth.
Christianity and Judaism are almost entirely different in beliefs, and those who do not understand that have become a stumbling block to Jews. Those within Judaism reject Jesus Christ, the New Testament and reinterpret prophecies and other Scriptures with that in mind, aside from the incorporation of the Talmud and Kabbalah by many. Judaism today is rabbinic Judaism. We cannot dismiss those facts. There are practicing Jews who have stated that those within Hebrew Roots and Messianics are straddling a fence with one foot in Judaism and one foot in Christianity. They urge that individuals make a choice on which they are actually going to follow, because it cannot be both.
We are followers of Jesus Christ who was God manifest in the flesh. And He brought a New Covenant that was unique.
Hebrews 3:1 Why, holy brothers, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus;
2 Who was faithful to him that appointed him, as also Moses was faithful in all his house. 3 For this man was counted worthy of more glory than Moses, inasmuch as he who has built the house has more honor than the house.
4 For every house is built by some man; but he that built all things is God.
5 And Moses truly was faithful in all his house, as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken after;
6 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm to the end.
Hebrews 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. 2 Who was faithful to him that appointed him, as also Moses was faithful in all his house. 3 For this man was counted worthy of more glory than Moses, inasmuch as he who has built the house has more honor than the house.
4 For every house is built by some man; but he that built all things is God.
5 And Moses truly was faithful in all his house, as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken after;
6 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm to the end.
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Myth: Hebrew Idioms, Hebraic Idioms, Hebrew Mindset, and a Hebraic Mindset are Necessary for Understanding the Scriptures.
A. There are many within Hebrew Roots who posit that one cannot understand the Scriptures unless one understands the "hidden Hebrew idioms" claimed to have come from the "original Hebrew manuscripts", of which there are none. The claim is that the Scriptures were originally written in Hebrew and Aramaic, (which is false) and the Greeks messed everything up. This concept is to undermine trust in the Scriptures, which for many who believe it, eventually leads to rejecting them and Christ. Some will state that while reading the Hebrew idioms that are glaringly obvious throughout the NT, many statements appear to be mixed up and that we Christians then skim over passages that seem to contradict themselves. Not to those in Hebrew Roots though.
Many Christians would therefore in their "innocence" skip the hard parts and focus on the familiar parts we (according to Hebrew Roots proponents) would easily understand. Many claim that Christians are never encouraged to study and search for the "deeper and truer" meaning of the Scriptures. Which they claim they alone have come to understand. They neglect to mention that they gain their sudden understanding by utilizing the kabbalist interpretation of multiple layers of meanings called PaRDeS, to find this 'hidden wisdom'; or they use the other rabbinic writings of the Talmud or kabbalah's Zohar....all of which are written by those who reject Jesus Christ and the New Testament. And who believe their writings interpreting the OT, are more important than the Scriptures themselves. This is the Hebrew mindset that Hebrew Roots proponents are sourcing and wanting Christians to align with.
If a child can understand these things, we know it isn't as complicated as some would like us to believe.
Scriptures remind us:
A. There are many within Hebrew Roots who posit that one cannot understand the Scriptures unless one understands the "hidden Hebrew idioms" claimed to have come from the "original Hebrew manuscripts", of which there are none. The claim is that the Scriptures were originally written in Hebrew and Aramaic, (which is false) and the Greeks messed everything up. This concept is to undermine trust in the Scriptures, which for many who believe it, eventually leads to rejecting them and Christ. Some will state that while reading the Hebrew idioms that are glaringly obvious throughout the NT, many statements appear to be mixed up and that we Christians then skim over passages that seem to contradict themselves. Not to those in Hebrew Roots though.
Many Christians would therefore in their "innocence" skip the hard parts and focus on the familiar parts we (according to Hebrew Roots proponents) would easily understand. Many claim that Christians are never encouraged to study and search for the "deeper and truer" meaning of the Scriptures. Which they claim they alone have come to understand. They neglect to mention that they gain their sudden understanding by utilizing the kabbalist interpretation of multiple layers of meanings called PaRDeS, to find this 'hidden wisdom'; or they use the other rabbinic writings of the Talmud or kabbalah's Zohar....all of which are written by those who reject Jesus Christ and the New Testament. And who believe their writings interpreting the OT, are more important than the Scriptures themselves. This is the Hebrew mindset that Hebrew Roots proponents are sourcing and wanting Christians to align with.
If a child can understand these things, we know it isn't as complicated as some would like us to believe.
Scriptures remind us:
2Timothy 2:14 Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers.
1 Timothy 6:3-4 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; 4. He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
2 Corinthians 2:15-17 For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish: 16. To the one we are the savour of death unto death; and to the other the savour of life unto life. And who is sufficient for these things? 17. For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.
1 Corinthians 1:20-21 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21. For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.1 Timothy 6:3-4 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; 4. He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
2 Corinthians 2:15-17 For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish: 16. To the one we are the savour of death unto death; and to the other the savour of life unto life. And who is sufficient for these things? 17. For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.
We know that God gives us understanding. We also know that those who cannot understand the Scriptures, are unable to because of not having the Spirit of God indwelling.
1Corinthiana 2:5That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
1 Corinthians 2:12-14 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 13. Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.14. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. 1Co 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
2 Corinthians 4:3-4 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 4. In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Colossians 1:26-28 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: 27. To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: 28. Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:
1 Corinthians 2:12-14 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 13. Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.14. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. 1Co 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
2 Corinthians 4:3-4 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 4. In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Colossians 1:26-28 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: 27. To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: 28. Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:
When Jesus instructed the disciples, He opened their understanding.
Luke 24:44-45 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me. 45. Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
We have the promise of the Holy Spirit indwelling and teaching us. The truth of the Scriptures is only hidden to those who do not know Jesus Christ.
1 John 2:26-27 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. 27. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
Colossians 2:2-10 That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3. In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. 4. And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words. 5. For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ. 6. As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: 7. Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving. 8. Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9. For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 10. And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
Ephesians 1:17-20 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him: 18. The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, 19. And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, 20. Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,
Frequently Asked Questions About Hebrew Roots : Hebrew Roots FAQ's and Myths
Colossians 2:2-10 That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3. In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. 4. And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words. 5. For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ. 6. As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: 7. Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving. 8. Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9. For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 10. And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
Ephesians 1:17-20 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him: 18. The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, 19. And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, 20. Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,
Frequently Asked Questions About Hebrew Roots : Hebrew Roots FAQ's and Myths
Zone, I'm really shocked, I thought you and I are friends. All that talking we did was just phony to you. I can't believe you're attacking like this. Well I guess you've shown me your real heart in this matter. Just because you don't agree with something I've put on here, doesn't call for this. There are things you've talked about in your threads that I strongly disagreed on, but because I thought we were friends with a mutual respect, I never said anything. Have a nice life. Avinu
I love to look into Hebrew for my self ameliorization, however at the same time I know the Holy Spirit ministers to all who come to Jesus Christ in spirit and truth. I have seen it in the most unlikely places. While camping summers high in the mountains, it seemed even the stars tell the story of the Word, but that is my perception, not a new teaching, not at all. I do know that fully translating many of the words of the Bible instead of simply transliterating them is a great highlight of what the Holy Spirit teaches us. For example, when reading the Old Testament if one substitues the word Beloved for David, the meaning of the scriptures take on an entirely new and wonderful meaning. David means Beloved. David left off tending the sheep to be King of Israel. Oh, the Beloved left off tending the sheep to be King of Israel. Jesus is King, blessed be His glory forever, amen............
Apparently, I have a lot to learn because I disagree with you. What a great attitude to have when you post in a public forum... 
Seriously, you do not know me nor of my education. I do not appreciate you stepping onto a marble pedestal just because I disagree with your contention. If you want to throw a pity party and act like a child, go ahead. That is some interesting fruit you have born in that last reply.
Seriously, you do not know me nor of my education. I do not appreciate you stepping onto a marble pedestal just because I disagree with your contention. If you want to throw a pity party and act like a child, go ahead. That is some interesting fruit you have born in that last reply.
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Is posting something contrary to what you present an attack on you? Hm...
personally I think people are too caught up with their own pride and have harden their hearts because they are so sure they are RIGHT they don't bother to pray and ask GOD what is right, but anyways.
I'm going to find a good green meadow to frollick in....
