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والكتبالمبين إنا جعلنه قرءنا عربيا لعلكم تعقلون
Waalkitabi almubeeni inna jaAAalnahu qur-anan AAarabiyyanlaAAallakum taAAqiloona
And The Book, the clear/evident. Certainly we have made it an Arabic Koran, perhaps you comprehend. (43.2 – 3)
The Book is the Holy Bible.
It was translated into an Arabic Koran.
Thus…how is that you can claim anything for your assertion when their book of faith is merely a second-hand paraphrased copy of the original…?
Sura 86
الطارق
“Alttariqi”
“The Morning Star”
(Named in honor of the Biblical Jesus)
Sura 86 is compared to its most likely sources – i.e. Johns’ Gospel & Johns’ Book of Revelation.
In weaving this material together, the Koranic authors have tailor-made sura 86 to revolve completely around the Second Coming of the Biblical Jesus Christ. In fact, sura 86 is even named in honor of the Biblical Jesus Christ, as it plucks one of His attributes from the text – as do legions of other Koranic suras.
Among numerous other things, sura 86 undeniably confirms to us these key points:
• That Jesus was crucified until death upon the Cross
• That Jesus was singularly resurrected
• That Jesus will return on a cloud to judge the dead at His Second Coming & gather His Elect
Summary:
86.1 And/by the clouds, and/by the Morning Star. (Announces Jesus’ Second Coming, on a cloud)
86.2 And who told you what the Morning Star is? (Asks the question: Who Told John of Jesus Second Coming?)
86.3 The star, the brightly shining. (Answers the question: Jesus, the Bright Morning Star, tells John)
86.4 Indeed every soul gathers on its Guardian. (Jesus, the Guardian, gathers His souls)
86.5 So, the human looks upon that which was created the inner man. (The reason for the gathering of the souls: Jesus is viewed upon the Cross)
86.6 The inner man was created out of water pouring forth at once. (Jesus’ Crucifixion & death upon the Cross)
86.7 He emerges from amidst the Cross and the grave. Or…86.7 He emerges from between the backbone and the ribs. (Jesus’ Crucifixion & Resurrection)
86.8 Certainly Him above, He returned Him to the present state of existence after death, truly possessing power. (Jesus’ Singular Resurrection)
86.9 A day The Marriage will turn to its reality. (The First Resurrection)
86.10 So truly not His from strength and nor Savior. (The Second Death)
86.11 And/by the cloud, Lord of the return. (Jesus’ Second Coming on a cloud)
86.12 And/by the earth, Lord of the separation. (Jesus gathers His elect)
86.13 Truly His Word is Judgment. (Jesus is the Word which judges mankind)
86.14 And He is not with the vain. (The fall of Babylon the Great)
86.15 Truly them, they devise an artful device. (Satan’s war)
86.16 And I devise an artful device. (Jesus’ war)
86.17 So respite the disbelievers, respite them gently for a little while. (Repent to Jesus)
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Jesus Christ suffered for our sins in full, he walked among men so that we may know exactly how we should walk, how many Christians do you see slaying muslims , it doesn't take a genius to see that the Quran is a weapon of mass destruction, a man seeking bloodshed is an abomination to the Lord,to not accept that Jesus Christ suffered for all of mankind how else can you be forgiven for your sins?, He was the perfect version of what man is supposed to be you are misleading the world to say otherwise
You can't change what the Arabic plainly states, brother.
You should be glad that the Koran is an extra-Biblical confirmation to the fact that Jesus IS God.
Instead, you, and others are letting Satan enter into your being as you vehemently deny this truth in favor of the big lie that islam had told you.
The Koran is repackaged Biblical material designed for Arabic consumption.
The fact that islam has misinterpreted their scriptures does not mean that everyone else needs to do likewise.
By way of comparison, you believe in the Jewish OT scriptures...same as do modern day Jews...and yet, why is it that you can clearly see Jesus and the triune God being discussed while they cannot?
You are both studying the SAME text!
Perhaps now you can understand what is occurring in the Koran...thanks!
You should be glad that the Koran is an extra-Biblical confirmation to the fact that Jesus IS God.
Instead, you, and others are letting Satan enter into your being as you vehemently deny this truth in favor of the big lie that islam had told you.
The Koran is repackaged Biblical material designed for Arabic consumption.
The fact that islam has misinterpreted their scriptures does not mean that everyone else needs to do likewise.
By way of comparison, you believe in the Jewish OT scriptures...same as do modern day Jews...and yet, why is it that you can clearly see Jesus and the triune God being discussed while they cannot?
You are both studying the SAME text!
Perhaps now you can understand what is occurring in the Koran...thanks!
This is only a 11 min video, more if you study it, but if you pay attention to the "image of the beast" part I think you all will see decent evidence that USA is the image of the beast.
And upon her head a name was written - YouTube
And upon her head a name was written - YouTube
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You cannot propose the source of the Quran is the Holy Bible, when 1 - Satan is not a fallen angel .. See the start of Isaiah 14 and chapter 13 in context. Modern day christians even get this wrong, but surely.. 2 Jesus is not your messiah and 3 we all go to a false hell if we don't accept the Quran where spirits and jihns torment us untill God deems us worthy.. 4 - The Quran and its Doctorine are TOTALLY different to what the Bible actually witholds in all source and accuracy. This "Source of our book is the bible" attitude can easily be misleading for those innocent enough to accept it without perusal, and should not be passed on to prove anything Right or Wrong.