The law of Christ

[peacefulbeliever]

You seem to be unaware that Judah and Israel are separate. When the scripture is speaking of Israel prophetically, it is generally speaking of Ephraim and Manasseh, not Judah.

Judah and Israel are separate? I thought the twelve tribes were the traditional divisions of the ancient Jewish people, i.e.
the true nation of Israel was made up of the twelve tribes - Reuben, Simeon, Judah, Issachar, Zebulun, Benjamin, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Ephraim and Manasseh - Judah being the tribe from which our Messiah came from.

 

[Flamingspirit]

Judah and Israel are separate? I thought the twelve tribes were the traditional divisions of the ancient Jewish people, i.e.
the true nation of Israel was made up of the twelve tribes - Reuben, Simeon, Judah, Issachar, Zebulun, Benjamin, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Ephraim and Manasseh - Judah being the tribe from which our Messiah came from.

He meant that the kingdom had split between Judah and Benjamin (a few Levites) and the other 10 tribes.

 

[peacefulbeliever]

He meant that the kingdom had split between Judah and Benjamin (a few Levites) and the other 10 tribes.

Yes, I see - I looked it up and read about it. Thanks.

 

[Kerry]

In fact there are 13 tribes and Benjamin joined with Judah and became the southern Kingdom, while the rest were called Israel to the north and Assyiria plundered them and scattered them to the nations. Jews are called Jews because of Judah as they were the dominate tribe of Southern Israel they had separate kings after Solomon and many defected to the southern Kingdom because the temple was in Jerusalem so it was a mixture. I meant so many were defecting that Jereboam had two golden calfs made and said this is your God to stop the defection. So Judea was made of member's of all 13 tribes and the intermingled and became Jews.

 

[JGIG]

Israel's words to the covenant in Exodus chapter 24 were vain and their actions didn't back up their words of agreement.

Exodus 24:7-8
7 And he took the book of the covenant, and read in the audience of the people: and they said, All that the LORD hath said will we do, and be obedient.
8 And Moses took the blood, and sprinkled it on the people, and said, Behold the blood of the covenant, which the LORD hath made with you concerning all these words.

Numbers 14:21-22
21 But as truly as I live, all the earth shall be filled with the glory of the LORD.
22 Because all those men which have seen my glory, and my miracles, which I did in Egypt and in the wilderness, and have tempted me now these ten times, and have not hearkened to my voice;

Do we react to the law of Christ the same as Israel reacted to the law of Moses because we want to make the God of the Old Testament a different God than the God of the New Testament? I think so.

We don't want to see that the God of the Old Testament is the same God of the New Testament, because the first one was mean and a dictator but the second is compassionate, understanding, and graceful, not really holding mankind accountable for their actions like the God that gave Moses the law. We desire the God who gave the law to Moses to change according to what we desire Him to be.

You really are denying the realities that were in the Old Covenant.

You wrote, "We don't want to see that the God of the Old Testament is the same God of the New Testament, because the first one was mean and a dictator but the second is compassionate, understanding, and graceful, not really holding mankind accountable for their actions like the God that gave Moses the law."

God desired to relate to mankind through Grace all along. He told Adam and Eve to not eat of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil (of which the Law is an extension), but that they could eat of the Tree of Life as they wished.

Israel grumbled and complained under Grace, and actually tried to tell God that they knew better how to manage things than what He was doing. So He said, "Fine", and gave the control to them. They would, from the time the Law was given, be in control of when they would receive blessings or curses. All they had to do was to perform. How did that work out for them?

The fact is that God was not holding Israel accountable for their actions prior to Sinai. Read Romans 4 and 5.

The day that we wake up and realize that it was God's grace that gave the law to Moses we will see the truth.

In His Grace, God did give the Law, but to show mankind their self-righteousness - to show them how far from God they were apart from His Grace. Guys, when Israel screwed up, there was death involved. Israel's sins WERE held against them. There was no 'spiritual obedience' to the Law; it was obey in the flesh or die. Those who preach Torah 'observance' or 'pursuance' water down the Law to something it was never intended to be, and as such, it does not do its job in leading folks to Christ and His Work and High Priesthood, but leads them to a faux self-righteousness and actually leads them away from Christ and to the flesh.

If transgression would never have been revealed we would have no reason to seek salvation, forever being separated from God with no hope.

Then why, after coming to Christ, do you continue in something which offers no hope?

27 To them God chose to make known how great among the Gentiles are the riches of the glory of this mystery, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory. 28 Him we proclaim, warning everyone and teaching everyone with all wisdom, that we may present everyone mature in Christ. (from Col. 1)​

If the law would never have been given we would not know how to live productive blessed lives within the confines of creation, for the law giver and the creator are the same and He desires to bless and not curse.

Yet the Law itself requires that to get the blessing through the Law you must obey it all, all of the time. Again, you ascribe to an extremely watered down version of the Law that is nothing like the Law as it was given at Sinai.

I thank God that the law was given, and Spiritually it is still effectual.

No, if you are 'spiritual' and in Christ, you are DEAD to the Law and have nothing more to do with it at all. Not only that, but you MUST be dead to the Law IN ORDER to be joined to Christ SO THAT you might bear fruit unto God (Rom. 7).

If you start trying to keep the Law AS IT WAS WRITTEN, you will see this.

Until then, you will keep preaching a law that is even more weak and useless than God said that the REAL Law was:

18 The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless 19 (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God. (from Heb. 7)​

-JGIG

 

[JGIG]

Yes, and remember, Israel CHOSE the Law OVER Grace at Sinai.

God was faithful to walk with them in fellowship and provision and GRACE even though they grumbled and complained.

They refused to trust Him, however, wanting to go back to Egypt, so to show them their self-righteous 'I can do it better than God' sinfulness, God gave them the Law, which they arrogantly took on with the statement, "All that the LORD has spoken, we will do" in order to get the blessings that they were already being given under Grace in Abraham's Covenant. Extremely arrogant and foolish from folks who couldn't even follow simple instructions on how/when to pick up manna.

Why was the Law given?

Do a search in the Scriptures to find out.

-JGIG

Why don't you just produce a scripture that shows that Israel chose Law over Grace?

"All that the LORD has spoken, we will do." Exodus 19:8

They were ALREADY ISREAL. They were ALREADY God's chosen. They were ALREADY receiving blessing, protection, and favor from God. They could have stayed under Grace, trusting God to lead them by His Spirit as He had been doing, but in their arrogance, they chose to take the reigns themselves instead.

-JGIG

 

[JGIG]

What do the Scriptures say the purpose of the Law is?

Be specific and use Scripture.

-JGIG

Psa 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.

The Law CONVERTS the soul. The Law makes the simple wise.

There are a lot of well behaved, wise people out there who are spiritually dead. Unsaved Israel falls into that category.

The Law does not make dead people alive, and life is what was lost at the Fall and needed to be restored:

18 Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people. 19 For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.

20 The law was brought in so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more, 21 so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (from Rom. 5)

19 “For through the law I died to the law so that I might live for God. 20 I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. 21 I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!” (from Gal. 2)
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Psa 19:8 The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.

The Law brings enlightenment to the eyes.

Psa 19:9 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.
Psa 19:10 More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
Psa 19:11 Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward.

The Law warns us of the punishment for wrong doing and rewards us for keeping it.

Okay. But if you're led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law (Gal. 5:18).

Why?

Because we who are in Christ are under a better covenant, built on better promises:

6 But in fact the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, since the new covenant is established on better promises. (from Heb. 8)

18 The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless 19 (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God. (from Heb. 7)​

-JGIG

 

[JGIG]

All the examples of the faithful patriarchs in the Old Testament who pleased God were obedient from their heart. Those that weren't suffered the curse of righteous judgment because of their unrighteousness. Is there any difference between God's reactions recording in the Old Testament and His judgments today?

Isaiah 1:10-12
10 Hear the word of the LORD, ye rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrah.
11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.
12 When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts?

God's reactions are no different in the Old Testament law than they with the law of Christ.

Really?

You must have missed reading this:

8 All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation: 19 that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting people’s sins against them. (from 2 Cor. 5)​

-JGIG

 

[crossnote]

Acts 7

51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.


52 Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:


53 Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.


No fabrication. Now I ask, what does this mean?

As well as...

For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward; (Heb 2:2)

 

[JGIG]

Exodus 19:4-6

"4 ‘You yourselves have seen what I did to the Egyptians, and how I bore you on eagles’ wings, and brought you to Myself.5 Now then, if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant, then you shall be My own possession among all the peoples, for all the earth is Mine;6 and you shall be to Me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.’ These are the words that you shall speak to the sons of Israel.”

They already had that in Abraham.

But they wanted to have control over the blessings.

So God gave it to them in the Law, and they arrogantly took it on.

And God had to relate to them on the basis of Law and Judgement rather than on the basis of Grace. When the Law came down, how many died immediately?

They could have said, "God, please, give us Abraham's covenant!"

But that required being led by God's Spirit (Life) instead of by the knowledge of Good and Evil (the other tree).

A simple read through the OT shows how in God's mercy and for His purposed and glory He preserved Israel, a nation bent on self-destruction.

-JGIG

 

[JGIG]

I disagree that they HAd to please God in the flesh. Obedience was part of their relationship with God, but everything God set forth for them to do was because of thankfulness of His redemption.

Disagree all you want.

Disobedience brought death.

Obedience was compulsory.

Obey or die.

Obey or be put out of the camp.

It depended on the offense.

You cannot see this because you adhere to a very watered down law of your own creation, not at all the Law as God gave it at Sinai.

-JGIG

 

[JGIG]

In Galatians 3-5, Paul discusses two covenants.
It's interesting to see which words are associated with each covenant in this passage of scripture.

Mount Sinai Covenant Gal 4:24-26
The covenant of the Jerusalem from above. Gal 4:24-26

Let's take a look at words Paul associates with each covenant.
He's creating two clear categories and associating one category with a set of words, and another category with a set of words.

Covenant from Sinai.
Works of the law Gal 3:25
Flesh Gal 3:3
Curse Gal 3:10,12
Law Gal 3:12
Not of faith Gal 3:12
Doesn't impart life Gal 3:21
Slave Gal 4:1,7,8
Guardian, manager, bondage Gal 4:2-3
Weak, worthless elemental things Gal 4:9
Observation of days months seasons years. Gal 4:10
Bondwoman, Flesh Gal 4:22
Slavery covenant Gal 4:24-26
Born according to flesh. Gal 4:29
Yoke of slavery Gal 5:1
Circumcision linked to law keeping. Gal 5:3-4.

Covenant from Jerusalem of above.
Christ crucified Gal 3:1
Spirit Gal 3:1
Hearing with faith Gal 3:2,5
Believing God righteousness Gal 3:6
Faith Sons of Abraham Gal 3:7,9
Righteous faith Gal 3:11
Promise of Spirit Gal 3:14
Christ=Abraham's seed Gal 3:15-18
No longer under tutor Gal 3:25
Sons of God Gal 3:26
Clothed with Christ 3:27
One in Christ Gal 3:28
Redeemed from being under law Gal 4:5
Adopted as sons Gal 4:5
Crying Abba Father Gal 4:6-7
Known by God Gal 4:9
Free woman, Promise Gal 4:21
Children of promise born according to Spirit Gal 4:28-29
Walking by Spirit Gal 5:16

Take a look at the two categories Paul is building.
Take a look at words and things associated with each.

Now what does he tell us to do with each category?

Why are people trying to bring themselves under things in the category Paul told us to cast out?

With all due respect, the old and new covenants are not the issue on this thread even though I can understand why they are thought of concerning the law. Covenants come up in discussion quite often when talking about the law of Christ and the law of God in order to prove a doctrinal difference.

The Old and New Covenants are EXACTLY the issue on this thread.

Old Covenant, Levitical Priesthood.

New Covenant, Christ's Priesthood - different Tribe - Judah - New Law (Heb. 7:12).

This thread is to define the difference between the law of Christ and how it is viewed differently than the law of God that He gave to Moses. Many see it differently when talking about the covenants, but in reality, are the words contained in the old covenant really different than Christ's concerning God's intentions from the beginning? My take on the whole matter is the same as Solomon's.

How about not 'viewing' the covenants, but reading what they say, how they're different, and because of how their different, how they simply cannot both be in place at the same time.

Ecclesiastes1:9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

Was not this wise one talking about history, instructions, and examples given by God for our benefit?

Maybe here:

12 I, the Teacher, was king over Israel in Jerusalem. 13 I applied my mind to study and to explore by wisdom all that is done under the heavens. What a heavy burden God has laid on mankind! 14 I have seen all the things that are done under the sun; all of them are meaningless, a chasing after the wind.

15 What is crooked cannot be straightened;
what is lacking cannot be counted.


16 I said to myself, “Look, I have increased in wisdom more than anyone who has ruled over Jerusalem before me; I have experienced much of wisdom and knowledge.” 17 Then I applied myself to the understanding of wisdom, and also of madness and folly, but I learned that this, too, is a chasing after the wind.

18 For with much wisdom comes much sorrow;
the more knowledge, the more grief. (from Ecc. 1)

Those are the words of a man who recognized the futility of LIFE under the Law.

When taking our heartfelt reactions toward God into consideration, is there a difference between God's righteous judgment of the Old Testament and what it is today?

God's righteous judgement today is through Christ, not through the Law. Folks won't be judged based on whether they kept Law well enough, but whether they believed on the One God sent. (Jn. 3:16-18, 1 Jn. 3:23-24)

-JGIG

 

[JGIG]

Thread name The law of Christ. It is different than His Father's?

Let's take a look at words used to describe those under OT law, and those used to describe those under the law of Christ.

The law given on Sinai has words like bondwoman, slaves, flesh.



Which words are used of those under the law of Christ?
Free, promise, born of Spirit.


The contrast seems clear to me.

So does Jesus contrast His will different than His Father's will in that God desired Israel to be in bondage and Christ desires the world to be free? Is the intention of God's law of the Old Testament slavery different than the intentions of Christ's law in the New Testament of freedom?

Why do you insist on pitting the Old and the New, the Father and the Son, against each other.

Let me ask you a question:

Does one relate to an infant/toddler/young offspring in the same way that one relates to mature offspring?

No?

Why not?

Have you changed?

Or have they changed?

The Law was given to Law-breakers. That's EVERYONE OUTSIDE OF CHRIST.

In Christ, we are righteous. Holy. Perfect before God in Christ. We have died with Christ and have been raised with Him. When that happened (Rom. 7:1-4, Gal. 2:19-21, Eph. 1), we died to the Law and were sealed with the Holy Spirit.

GOD LIVES INSIDE OF US (Col. 2, Eph. 1 and others).

And if we are led by the Spirit, we are no longer under the Law (Gal. 5:18).

-JGIG

 

[JGIG]

All except for the fact it was the One who became Jesus Christ that gave the Law on Mt. Sinai and then said this...

Deu 8:1 All the commandments which I command thee this day shall ye observe to do, that ye may live, and multiply, and go in and possess the land which the LORD sware unto your fathers.
Deu 8:2 And thou shalt remember all the way which the LORD thy God led thee these forty years in the wilderness, to humble thee, and to prove thee, to know what was in thine heart, whether thou wouldest keep his commandments, or no.
Deu 8:3 And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live.

Again, we have to look at why the Law was given, and what the Work of Christ accomplished. You're ignoring those two very critical elements in your theology.

God's intents and purposes don't center around the Law and our adherence to it; God's intents and purposes center around the Work and High Priesthood of Christ and who we are in Him.

-JGIG

 

[JGIG]

Was salvation offered to all prior to the Sacrifice of Christ?

There was always hope in the mercy of God for those before the Cross.

I believe that Christ Himself preached in Paradise the Good News of salvation to all who lived and died before the Work of Christ (1 Pet. 1:19).

-JGIG

 

[JGIG]

Sorry. The covenant is with Israel in the Old Testament and with God's children through Christ in the New Testament. The law of Christ is New and the law of God is Old. When excluding the human reactions to either one, is the spiritual intent of the words spoken contained in both covenants the same as what came from both God and Christ?

Is the law of God different than the law of Christ?

The question is flawed. It's like asking whether US Law concerning slavery before the Civil War was the same US Law concerning slavery after the Civil War.

It's not a perfect metaphor, but it makes the point.

There were radical changes in the identity of those who were formerly slaves.

They were no longer slaves, but freed men.

-JGIG

 

[JGIG]

I have no problem getting that, but what you may not get is that the law still has purpose and it saddens me that Christians cannot see that. When faith comes, the law doesn't vanish, it's is seen with a spiritual eye of understanding for the law is spiritual. Right? King David had faith in God and He loved it. Shouldn't we love it too instead of insinuating that Christ changed it?

If what you say is true, back it up with contextual Scripture.

All that " . . . it's seen with a spiritual eye of understanding . . . " stuff . . . there is no Scripture to back up that concept.

In Christ, we DIE to the Law.

It has NOTHING MORE to do with us.

Kind David was under the Old Covenant and not in Christ.

Being in Christ MEANS something.

Ask the Scriptures what it means to be in Christ.

-JGIG

 

[JGIG]

Really it does have to do with the same topic because it is related to the salvation of Christ which is the law of Christ." Right?

Again, you're questions are flawed.

You say the thread has nothing to do with covenants, and it has EVERYTHING to do with covenants.

You are looking a the Law of God and the Law of Christ as the 'do's and don'ts of God and the do's and don'ts of Christ', when that's not at all the case.

The Old Covenant was given to the ungodly to show them their sin, and consequently, their need for a Savior.

The New Covenant was given to all who will receive to give them forgiveness, righteousness, and New Life - ALL FREE GIFTS from God in Christ.

You're trying to reduce our relationship with God in Christ down to a performance-based paradigm, when in the New Covenant, our relationship with God is built on the promises of God fulfilled in Christ, by which we enter into by faith. Then, as we grow and mature in Him, HE produces HIS Fruit in us; we bear it by resting in who we are in Christ and being led by His Spirit. It's a TOTALLY different way of relationship with God, and so succinctly communicated here:

18 The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless 19 (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God. (from Heb. 7)​

-JGIG

 

[JGIG]

For clarification, taking Moses out of the equation, we will see that the law of God was, and is spoken by His only begotten Son Jesus Christ. So whatever we understand and believe that is the “law of Christ”, is also identical to the “law of God.”

God instructs Israel to listen to the Angel that has the name of God in Him. Anyone who refuses to listen to His voice is guilty without pardon. He goes before Israel to conquer the adversary. He comes to Jerusalem to save. He made heaven and earth. We give thanks to the Father because of Him. He claims that He comes to us in the name of the Father. The words of God come forth from His mouth. Our help is in His name.

Many will want to add the difference between the old and new covenants in relation to the law that is also different between the two. But in relationship the only difference is the physical versus the spiritual. Now without the physical that came first, there would ultimately be nothing left to compare the relationship spiritually as Jesus taught in parables. Matthew 13:13

Exodus 23:20-23
20 Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.
21 Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him.
22 But if thou shalt indeed obey his voice, and do all that I speak; then I will be an enemy unto thine enemies , and an adversary unto thine adversaries.
23 For mine Angel shall go before thee, and bring thee in unto the Amorites, and the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Canaanites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites: and I will cut them off.

Note. obey his voice, and do all that I speak (this is the connection)

Matthew 21:9 And the multitudes that went before , and that followed , cried , saying , Hosanna to the Son of David: Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord; Hosanna in the highest.

Exodus 32:34 Therefore now go, lead the people unto the place of which I have spoken unto thee: behold, mine Angel shall go before thee: nevertheless in the day when I visit I will visit their sin upon them.

Psalm 124:8 Our help is in the name of the LORD, who *made heaven and earth.

Colossians 1:12-17
12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
16 *For by him were all things created , that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist .

John 5:43-47
43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive .
44 How can ye believe , which receive honour one of another , and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?
45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

Deuteronomy 7:1
When the LORD thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the Girgashites, (a tribe of the Canaanites descendant of Ham and his offspring Canaan see Genesis 10:16) and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than thou;

Deuteronomy 18:15-19
15 The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;
16 According to all that thou desiredst of the LORD thy God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of the LORD my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I die not.
17 And the LORD said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken .
18I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
19 And it shall come to pass, ***that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.

John 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.

It has been this way from the beginning, and there can be no separation from what has been proven by the name/Word of God the Father in heaven, for “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God.” John 1:1-2

Except that in Christ the Old Covenant - the Law given to Moses at Sinai - is declared obsolete; it is no longer a valid way to relate to God (Heb. 7-8). Not only that, but those in Christ are DEAD to the Law, and MUST BE, in order to be joined to Christ and bear fruit unto God (Rom. 7).

-JGIG

 

[just-me]

So the doctrine of today is that of the law of Christ is very much at odds with the law that His Father gave to Moses. If we reject all of the old law, then we are not convicted by all those nasty rules of death that were only for the Israelites. Paul's preaching is what to follow.

Romans 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.

Romans 8:5-7
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

Romans 9:32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;

Galatians 2:6 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Acts 24:10-14
10 Then Paul, after that the governor had beckoned unto him to speak, answered, Forasmuch as I know that thou hast been of many years a judge unto this nation, I do the more cheerfully answer for myself:
11 Because that thou mayest understand , that there are yet but twelve days since I went up to Jerusalem for to worship.
12 And they neither found me in the temple disputing with any man, neither raising up the people, neither in the synagogues, nor in the city:
13 Neither can they prove the things whereof they now accuse me.
14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, "believing" all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:

Was Paul a compromiser worshiping God by believing in something that is now obsolete?