Well isn't socialism a system where there is no private ownership? So then if the fatcats at the top still have private ownership, it's not really socialism, it's just a Ponzi scheme. That's why I don't think socialism is actually real. Obamacare is a pretty good example, it's not socialism, the corporations aren't giving up their private ownership or their private profits. It's just a Ponzi scheme with a nice sounding little label to make insurance corporations richer.