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7seven7

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It has happened to me as well, in fact one guy told me he was going that way and he would show me. So he got into the car and he showed me the way, right to his house. ;)

Quite honestly I wouldn't want to play football with that guy, but if someone made a genuine mistake then fine, we all make mistakes and I have made my fair share, but what I have noticed is that if you do a poor job of something and the person likes you then it will be fine, but on the other hand if you aren't liked then it doesn't matter how brilliant a job you do, there will always be a problem.

So my question to you is, if you wanted to know something would you go to someone you like or would you go to to the source?
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That was my point in my last comment, of course I would go to the source. Why would I ask someone who obviously couldn't help me. But, my point also is this, that just because that guy couldn't help me with that, there might be thousands of things that we can get along about and love each other.
 
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That was my point in my last comment, of course I would go to the source. Why would I ask someone who obviously couldn't help me. But, my point also is this, that just because that guy couldn't help me with that, there might be thousands of things that we can get along about and love each other.
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I accept the point you are making, but we aren't talking about the thousands of things are we, we are talking about one thing so let me put it another way, would you vote for a politician because you like them?
 
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I accept the point you are making, but we aren't talking about the thousands of things are we, we are talking about one thing so let me put it another way, would you vote for a politician because you like them?
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That was a poor example to pick because I don't like any politicians lol. I think we've drifted apart on this point through misinterpretations of our stories hahaha be straight with me PS! What are you talking about? Give it to me straight
 
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That was a poor example to pick because I don't like any politicians lol. I think we've drifted apart on this point through misinterpretations of our stories hahaha be straight with me PS! What are you talking about? Give it to me straight
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OK I will give it you straight, why don't you go to the source by which I mean the Bible, rather than relying on someone else who you like to tell you but may not be the best person for the job?
 
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That was a poor example to pick because I don't like any politicians lol.
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True. None of the three major political parties now stand up for biblical principals in the UK. A law has just been passed fully legitimising same sex marriages.
It wouldn't surprise me if some liberal ministers agreed to perform such marriages in their church
 
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OK I will give it you straight, why don't you go to the source by which I mean the Bible, rather than relying on someone else who you like to tell you but may not be the best person for the job?
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wow I didn't even know we started talking about that. But how do you know I don't go to the Bible? Do you think I don't read the Bible? Are you presuming I don't read the Bible because I'm Catholic? lol Is this just something else you have been misled to think about Catholics? If you are going to try and prove Catholicism wrong again, PS, end this conversation quick please, because just like you said in an earlier comment, if i want to know something I will ask somebody who knows. lol God bless
 
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wow I didn't even know we started talking about that. But how do you know I don't go to the Bible? Do you think I don't read the Bible? Are you presuming I don't read the Bible because I'm Catholic? lol Is this just something else you have been misled to think about Catholics? If you are going to try and prove Catholicism wrong again, PS, end this conversation quick please, because just like you said in an earlier comment, if i want to know something I will ask somebody who knows. lol God bless
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I'm not presuming anything of the sort, if you remember it was this comment that started the conversation and I responded with the thought that maybe people are not being judgmental but through love are trying to help by talking about repentance and accepting Jesus as their saviour.

I must say, I have to agree with the little brother on this fact that I have non-christian friends who show A LOT more love than some people on here. Peace!
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I'm not presuming anything of the sort, if you remember it was this comment that started the conversation and I responded with the thought that maybe people are not being judgmental but through love are trying to help by talking about repentance and accepting Jesus as their saviour.
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OK fine, so how did you get from there, to this: OK I will give it you straight, why don't you go to the source by which I mean the Bible, rather than relying on someone else who you like to tell you but may not be the best person for the job?
 
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True. None of the three major political parties now stand up for biblical principals in the UK. A law has just been passed fully legitimising same sex marriages.
It wouldn't surprise me if some liberal ministers agreed to perform such marriages in their church
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We have some rough and Godless times ahead of us, brother
 
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OK fine, so how did you get from there, to this: OK I will give it you straight, why don't you go to the source by which I mean the Bible, rather than relying on someone else who you like to tell you but may not be the best person for the job?
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Because the Bible is the best map and good directions are better than likability.
 
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Because the Bible is the best map and good directions are better than likability.
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Of course is. I agree. But we weren't talking about that, bro. I was just agreeing with him on the fact that there are non-christians who show more love than some christians. That's all. But we do agree that the Bible is the best map. God bless.
 
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Wow, brother, you are an inspiration and I am blessed to have met you. The only reason I asked you of your opinion on what bible you would recommend to me if I was to be a sola-scriptura based Christian was to really see what you would recommend. And as far as your faith goes, brother, you relationship with Christ is beautiful and by the sounds of it, unwavered. For me, I don't see how sola-scriptura could make sense, as there have been so many translations and versions and there's almost no way of knowing which one has been translated correctly. In saying that, it doesn't mean that I'm judging anyone. I'm just giving my opinion. But putting all this aside, as far as far as the love a true follower of Christ should show, it can be seen in you, brother. We need to all remember before we start throwing hurtful and judgmental comments at each other, that we all have our own relationship with Christ, and NONE OF US are in a position to tell another that they are not welcome in the kingdom of God. You remind me alot of my sister, who is also non-denominational. I rarely come accross people with faith like her's or people that show love like she does, whether they be Catholic, Protestant, or whatever. My reason for being a Catholic is because I can truly see the fullness in Christ in Her. But I can't see myself getting into heaven before you, my brother. Peace and love always,

Charlie
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Charlie again thank you and now remember what Koing David said after coming to Faith in God he had had sex with Bathsheba a married woman, she got pregnant so he had her Hushand Uriah killed by having him put on the front line in war. King David was King of Israel and he had to hide his sins accordingly to look good in front of others. The people couldn't know his sins he would be an outcast. This is still going on today people hiding behind closed doors and God knows. So here comes a Prophet of God before the Chrsit has come to bring in a new Covenant. THe Prophet is Nathaniel and he in front of King David exposes King Davids sins, and tihs was done in private. Now King David could have continued in his privately held sins and killed Nathaniel and kept his secrets secret. But He did not and repented and realised his sins were against God himself. And God accepted King David because David turned to Faith and trusted God form that day forward
Now remember David when he was a koid he also before being King by Faith killed Goliath with a sling shot. So we all go through trials and tribulations and God is looking for Faith in God like King Davis and Abraham and Noah and on and on to Saul who became Paul
Anyway King David after all these experiences and finally 100% trusting God said this before the cross
Psalm 100:4Enter into his gates with thanksgiving, and into his courts with praise: be thankful unto him, and bless his name.
David looking forward to the croos where the law can't stop him from this any longer for Christ pays the price and today has for all that beleive waht an amazing salvation this is to those that walk by faioth and see this truth and how can one not be thankful
 
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Atleast those "non-christians" are friendly compared to those its condemn or die christian friends. Those same Christians dance to songs like Gangnam Style and say music like metal is satanic, which it is not.
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again, you still did not get my point.

If your so called christian friends do this to you. then you just found another major issue with the church.
 
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I must say, I have to agree with the little brother on this fact that I have non-christian friends who show A LOT more love than some people on here. Peace!
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Oh I agree whole heartedly.

but does this mean we should not do what God commands us to do..

if our so called christian friends are being judgmental. should we not disciple them into gods love? and if our church does not take care of it, should we not find another church who does practice this humble love
 
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Ok, seen as you answered my question with a question, I'm going to do the same lol (not revenge). Do you think that there are any traditions that the Catholic Church holds that will stop a person receiving eternal life? If yes, why? Now remember, I'm talking about traditions held by the Catholic Church, not past actions committed by corrupt clergy. Please, let's stay on topic.
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lol.. It depends on how you look at it.

Since eternal life could be had in pauls day the same as eternal life can be had today. (timothy had the FULL knowledge of the gospel as a kid. long before Paul started his ministry) are their any traditions the Roman church holds which must be done to receive eternal life that are not found in scripture?

which is the point I am trying to make. lets set aside traditions which do not have anything to do with receiving eternal life. they are not worth causing contention.
 
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again, you still did not get my point.

If your so called christian friends do this to you. then you just found another major issue with the church.
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And that is my fault? Can I just have friends or is that to much to ask for Christianity?

EDIT: Note I said Christianity not G-d.
 
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And that is my fault? Can I just have friends or is that to much to ask for Christianity?

EDIT: Note I said Christianity not G-d.
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lol.. can I ask you a question? what does having non christian friends have to do with God commanding us to be assembling ourselves together, and building each other up and discipline each other? which is what I am trying to discuss..

have I said we should not have non christian friends? how can we lead people to christ if we do not go into the world and make non christian friends?

that is not what we are talking about though.

I am talking about getting together with my brothers and sisters. confessing my sin to them so they can help me (not judge me) also being their for them. when they need help.. which from what I see. does not happen in MOST CHURCHES.

this is not a catholic non catholic issue, I am just stating what I see in ALOT of churches..
 
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eternally-gratefull said:

lol.. can I ask you a question? what does having non christian friends have to do with God commanding us to be assembling ourselves together, and building each other up and discipline each other? which is what I am trying to discuss..
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Ok I will answer your question in a logical sense. If we have friends that are only "Christians," how exactly can we reach out to those who are "non-Christians"? Do you really think a "non-Christian" is going to want to hear about the bible (if he didn't ask) when I am not by any means his friend? I understand what you are saying (now) I just wish you said this in the beginning.


have I said we should not have non christian friends? how can we lead people to christ if we do not go into the world and make non christian friends?

that is not what we are talking about though.
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I am sorry, but it looks like you are contradicting yourself. We can't have non-Christian friends, but now we can? I am confused?

I am talking about getting together with my brothers and sisters. confessing my sin to them so they can help me (not judge me) also being their for them. when they need help.. which from what I see. does not happen in MOST CHURCHES.
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Of course, hence the verse (James 5:16 NASB:Therefore, confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another so that you may be healed. The effective prayer of a righteous man can accomplish much.)

this is not a catholic non catholic issue, I am just stating what I see in ALOT of churches..
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I understand, I see alot of what you refer to, too.
 
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Ok I will answer your question in a logical sense. If we have friends that are only "Christians," how exactly can we reach out to those who are "non-Christians"? Do you really think a "non-Christian" is going to want to hear about the bible (if he didn't ask) when I am not by any means his friend? I understand what you are saying (now) I just wish you said this in the beginning.
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Thats what I meant when I said you misunderstood my context.


I am sorry, but it looks like you are contradicting yourself. We can't have non-Christian friends, but now we can? I am confused?
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Who ever said we can;t have non christian friends? I never said this.


Of course, hence the verse (James 5:16 NASB:Therefore, confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another so that you may be healed. The effective prayer of a righteous man can accomplish much.)
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I understand, I see alot of what you refer to, too.
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yes.. as James said.

in my many years going to church, to many different churches. I do not see this. this is what I was refering to.
 
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OK I will give it you straight, why don't you go to the source by which I mean the Bible, rather than relying on someone else who you like to tell you but may not be the best person for the job?
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The source is Christ and the Bible is a tool that has the truth but can only be revealed by God to his child through the Holy Ghost
John 5:39You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me,
 
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