No one is saying God does not heal. At least, I am not! But if it is not God’s will, it won’t happen. It is not automatically included in the atonement. See my post above!
As for your first copy and paste, seriously??? Here I sit, with serious debliatiting Rheumatoid Disease, and asthma now active because of a cold, plus about 3 other diseases. I have suffered so badly, I cannot get out of bed, feed myself or go to the bathroom on my own. I KNOW what suffering is. I also understand the accompanying depression that comes with being chronically ill.
Yet, you have the nerve to post:
When I speak of healing, it is from 20 years + of pain and disabilty. It is from a point of someone who was prayed over, by Word Faith people. It was myself believing God for a physcial healing that never came, although the doctors have been instrumental in gettting me up and active.
I never tell people any kind of platitudes! Everything I say comes directly out of the Bible, and from my own experiences not just of pain and suffering, but from how none of this Word Faith stuff works! And the people I know that claimed healing, when they had cancer, and died because they did not accept medical treatment. And I am not the only one in this forum who knew someone who was deceived by these deliberate twistings of Scripture, especially when it came to divine healing of cancer, and died because of these lies!
And they amazing miracles God worked in my life’s through sickness, and how God walked me out of depression, caused by the pain and suffering. All the years God taught me in his Word, as I read daily, and the Holy Spirit quickened the words I was reading, and showed me how God was with me, he knew my pain, and I should praise him anyway!
Word Faith and hypergrace are unbilblical lies from the devil. We need to seek God, in prayer and in his Word, not seek power for healing.
That is the same story as Simon the magician in Acts 8. That is what the first charlatan you posted said.
“Now in that city was a man named Simon, who had been practicing magic and amazing the people of Samaria, claiming to be someone great. 10 All the people, from the least to the greatest, paid close attention to him, saying, “This man is the power of God that is called ‘Great.’” 11 And they paid close attention to him because he had amazed them for a long time with his magic. 12 But when they believed Philip as he was proclaiming the good news about the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they began to be baptized, both men and women. 13 Even Simon himself believed, and after he was baptized, he stayed close to Philip constantly, and when he saw the signs and great miracles that were occurring, he was amazed.” Acts 8:9-13
”Now Simon, when he saw that the Spirit was given through the laying on of the apostles’ hands, offered them money, 19 saying, “Give me this power too, so that everyone I place my hands on may receive the Holy Spirit.” 20 But Peter said to him, “May your silver perish with you, because you thought you could acquire God’s gift with money! 21 You have no share or part in this matter because your heart is not right before God! 22 Therefore repent of this wickedness of yours, and pray to the Lord that he may perhaps forgive you for the intent of your heart. 23 For I see that you are bitterly envious and in bondage to sin.” 24 But Simon replied, “You pray to the Lord for me so that nothing of what you have said may happen to me.” Acts 8:18-24
Your teachers are Simon the Magician, wanting power for all the wrong reasons! You are Simon the Magician, promoting false teachers who are seeking power, instead of Jesus!
Beware the false teachers and their adherents, who want you to buy their books, contribute to their ministries, when all they have is a twisted and false gospel and a different gospel.
I am still waiting for YOU to post Scriptures. Your first book, written by Simon the Magician, does not have ONE Bible verse. The second book has 2 addresses thrown into to look spiritual. Well, we are no longer deceived by addresses. We want proper exegesis of the Word. Which you are completely unable to give!
As for your first copy and paste, seriously??? Here I sit, with serious debliatiting Rheumatoid Disease, and asthma now active because of a cold, plus about 3 other diseases. I have suffered so badly, I cannot get out of bed, feed myself or go to the bathroom on my own. I KNOW what suffering is. I also understand the accompanying depression that comes with being chronically ill.
Yet, you have the nerve to post:
When I speak of healing, it is from 20 years + of pain and disabilty. It is from a point of someone who was prayed over, by Word Faith people. It was myself believing God for a physcial healing that never came, although the doctors have been instrumental in gettting me up and active.
I never tell people any kind of platitudes! Everything I say comes directly out of the Bible, and from my own experiences not just of pain and suffering, but from how none of this Word Faith stuff works! And the people I know that claimed healing, when they had cancer, and died because they did not accept medical treatment. And I am not the only one in this forum who knew someone who was deceived by these deliberate twistings of Scripture, especially when it came to divine healing of cancer, and died because of these lies!
And they amazing miracles God worked in my life’s through sickness, and how God walked me out of depression, caused by the pain and suffering. All the years God taught me in his Word, as I read daily, and the Holy Spirit quickened the words I was reading, and showed me how God was with me, he knew my pain, and I should praise him anyway!
Word Faith and hypergrace are unbilblical lies from the devil. We need to seek God, in prayer and in his Word, not seek power for healing.
That is the same story as Simon the magician in Acts 8. That is what the first charlatan you posted said.
“Now in that city was a man named Simon, who had been practicing magic and amazing the people of Samaria, claiming to be someone great. 10 All the people, from the least to the greatest, paid close attention to him, saying, “This man is the power of God that is called ‘Great.’” 11 And they paid close attention to him because he had amazed them for a long time with his magic. 12 But when they believed Philip as he was proclaiming the good news about the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they began to be baptized, both men and women. 13 Even Simon himself believed, and after he was baptized, he stayed close to Philip constantly, and when he saw the signs and great miracles that were occurring, he was amazed.” Acts 8:9-13
”Now Simon, when he saw that the Spirit was given through the laying on of the apostles’ hands, offered them money, 19 saying, “Give me this power too, so that everyone I place my hands on may receive the Holy Spirit.” 20 But Peter said to him, “May your silver perish with you, because you thought you could acquire God’s gift with money! 21 You have no share or part in this matter because your heart is not right before God! 22 Therefore repent of this wickedness of yours, and pray to the Lord that he may perhaps forgive you for the intent of your heart. 23 For I see that you are bitterly envious and in bondage to sin.” 24 But Simon replied, “You pray to the Lord for me so that nothing of what you have said may happen to me.” Acts 8:18-24
Your teachers are Simon the Magician, wanting power for all the wrong reasons! You are Simon the Magician, promoting false teachers who are seeking power, instead of Jesus!
Beware the false teachers and their adherents, who want you to buy their books, contribute to their ministries, when all they have is a twisted and false gospel and a different gospel.
I am still waiting for YOU to post Scriptures. Your first book, written by Simon the Magician, does not have ONE Bible verse. The second book has 2 addresses thrown into to look spiritual. Well, we are no longer deceived by addresses. We want proper exegesis of the Word. Which you are completely unable to give!
I know your suffering Angela. I too have a debilitating disease. Plus it's rare and not much known about. It destroys nerves to thecspinal cord that affects many organs of my body.
Just recently, after participating in the meetings, again received a touch from the Lord.
I could not lay flat flat period on my back. Had to have two pillows under my head. And I had to tip my whole body back to drink a coke or whatever.
I didnt feel anything except a release from pain in the middle of my back. This has been at least 4 times now that something has changed. So my healing is a recovery type. Am not stopping.
This started in 1988 when injured at my work. I can truthfully say, I was half hearted in seeking healing because I had pain pills that kept me comfortable. Until my heart failed and nearly died twice. Now have a pacemaker.
Am not afraid to pass on, but I haven't finished my course.
Ask yourself....have you sought healing with everything in you? Selah
oh, forgot this...I can lay flat on the floor. My family is my witness. My doctor does not yet know.