Arminian - 5 points
1. Free will - I agree
2 - conditional election - I disagree the only condition is Gods foreknowledge, and that is not a condition we can fulfill.
3 - universal election - Agree, I believe Christ died for all. But only a few will be saved
4- HS can be resisted - I agree, we can resist the spirit as nopn believers (unbelief) and we (at least I) resist the spirit every day, we griebd the HS by resisting him, if we could not resist the spirit. We woudl never grieve him.
5. Falling from grace - Impossible
calvin
1. Totally depraved - agree in part. Man can do not good. (Although they can do good in a society, like give to the poor, serve people, and other things) I also believe Placing our faith in christ is not a work. It is the work of God. So to say a totally depraved person can not come to faith is a nonsensical idea in my view.
2. Unconditional election - agree, we have nothign to offer God in whcih God will say thank you, you have paid for your sin, now you may be my child
3 - limited atonement - reject. God loved the WORLD (COSMOS) he died for the WORLD, no one wil go to hell because they sinned, they will go to hell because they rejected christ (he who does not believe is condemned already) They will go to hell because they were IN ADAM.
4. Irrisistable grace- reject. Isreal was shown grace from the tim emoses returned and the whole 40 years in the wilderness, yet they resisted, Judas was showed grace, yet he resisted, these are just 2 examples)
5. Perseverance of the saints - I would not call it this, A person does not percevere and save themselved because they persevered. But they are eternally secure in Christ jesus, they can not lose salvation. Because GODS GRACE is is unending, and his love is never ending, and his promise is forever.
So I guess I am a 3 point arminian and a 2.5 point (2 if I only give .5 for perseverance the way it is worded) calvanist?
Thats why I would rather discuss the word. And not religious dogma.. trying to put people in boxes of being one way or the other just leads to confusion and misunderstanding and causes so much infighting.