Muslim Religion

[peacenik]

In this forum it is fashionable and politically correct to believe that Fox is the closest thing to God in its "perfection" and reliability. But the facts show otherwise:

Fact Checker Finds 60% Of Fox News Statements To Either Be Mostly False Or A Lie


They smear everybody and its owner Rupert Murdoch is a noted pornographer. You may google for more info on that.



As for "traitors in the Republican Party", my biggest problem with them is their hypocrisy and double standards. While calling themselves patriots they fill out the roster of the chicken hawks list and have huge bankrolls from war profits - wars they refuse to fight in. Some, like Bush, wanted the USA to invade Iran as you say. Strange how so many claim to worship the Prince of Peace but are so eager to foment profitable wars which they do not have to fight. To me, that is treason.


"If you are killed by a radical Muslim"

More Americans have been killed by Christian professing types but we do not see Christianity attacked with the same fervency and hate that is directed towards Islam. Remember Timothy McVeigh and how he was influenced by the "Christian" Identity mythology and "Turner Diaries"? As I mentioned earlier Bush is viewed as a Christian terrorist for his shock-and-awe bombings which killed thousands. You may not view it as terrorism but more than half the people throughout the world do. Therefore, Christianity does not have the higher moral ground.



I did not read Dr Nabeel Quereshi's book but am aware of his conversion. Interesting that one person's conversion should carry more weight in your mind than the tens of thousands (with the vast majority being women) of Christians who convert to Islam every year.



As for Bundy and the Tea Party, that is a matter of record. No dispute there.

 

[Yeraza_Bats]

Once again, Fox news and the republican party have nothing to do with Islam. Im beginning to think youre weird need to defend Islam is really just based on your own beef with republicans, that you even ignore whats in the quran and really believe everyone who speaks out against it is just a mindless Fox news fan.

As for Christians "being just as bad as Muslims"-

Quran 2:191-193 "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And disbelief is worse than killing. But if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more disbelief and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgressions except against Az-Zalimun (polytheists, wrong doers)"

Quran 4:104 "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy, for if you suffer pain, surely they too suffer pain as you suffer pain"

Quran 8:12 "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Quran 8:39 "And fight them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion is all for Allah"

Quran 9:29 "Fight those who believe not in Allah, nor the last day, nor hold forbidden that which hath been forbidden by Allah and his Messenger, nor acknoledge the religion of truth, (even if they are ) the people of the book (Christians and Jews) until they pay the jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued"

Quran 9:30 "And the Jews say Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

Quran 9:73 "O prophet, strive hard against the unbelievers and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell; and evil is their destination"

Quran 25:52 "Therefore listen not to unbelievers, but strive against them with utmost strenuous"

Bukhari 52:177 "Allahs apostle said, 'The hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say 'Oh, Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so come kill him"


But yeah, youre right. Were all just mindless zombies brainwashed by Fox news propaganda. We should keep in mind that Christ's teachings were pretty much the same as Muhammads, and by no means is Christianity "better" than Islam.
(of course I dont believe that in anyway, I absolutely do not support Islam in anyway whatsoever, and I absolutely want to guide those who are misguided by Muhammad to Christ, as should every Christian)

 

[peacenik]

^ I also have my quarrels with Islam. But bear in mind that Queen Victoria's, King Leopold's, and Hitler's invasions and genocide were all done in the name of Christianity. As we are instructed in the New Testament, clean out the log in your own eye before criticizing the speck in another's eye. On that basis, Christianity needs to get its own house in order before attacking Islam.

 

[kaylagrl]

In this forum it is fashionable and politically correct to believe that Fox is the closest thing to God in its "perfection" and reliability. But the facts show otherwise:

Fact Checker Finds 60% Of Fox News Statements To Either Be Mostly False Or A Lie


They smear everybody and its owner Rupert Murdoch is a noted pornographer. You may google for more info on that.



As for "traitors in the Republican Party", my biggest problem with them is their hypocrisy and double standards. While calling themselves patriots they fill out the roster of the chicken hawks list and have huge bankrolls from war profits - wars they refuse to fight in. Some, like Bush, wanted the USA to invade Iran as you say. Strange how so many claim to worship the Prince of Peace but are so eager to foment profitable wars which they do not have to fight. To me, that is treason.


"If you are killed by a radical Muslim"

More Americans have been killed by Christian professing types but we do not see Christianity attacked with the same fervency and hate that is directed towards Islam. Remember Timothy McVeigh and how he was influenced by the "Christian" Identity mythology and "Turner Diaries"? As I mentioned earlier Bush is viewed as a Christian terrorist for his shock-and-awe bombings which killed thousands. You may not view it as terrorism but more than half the people throughout the world do. Therefore, Christianity does not have the higher moral ground.



I did not read Dr Nabeel Quereshi's book but am aware of his conversion. Interesting that one person's conversion should carry more weight in your mind than the tens of thousands (with the vast majority being women) of Christians who convert to Islam every year.



As for Bundy and the Tea Party, that is a matter of record. No dispute there.

And FactChecker is totally unbiased right?


We've already covered the fact that Christianity has the most adherents and that is expected to continue for the next decade. Not that numbers of adherents proves anything. Jesus had few that followed Him and the Bible says that few would find and follow the narrow path. So I don't believe that Christians are converting to Islam in the numbers you'd like to think. And after reading many of your posts here I have grave doubts that you are a Christian. I find you on the opposite side of truth every time you post,I dont think that is a coincidence. Islam is satanic, its easy for people to be pulled into his tricks but those who get a taste of real Islam,not the nice peaceful watered down American stuff, change their minds pretty quickly. These silly young women especially find out what its really all about when they find out a goat has more rights that they do.

Fox News has its place the same as any other news. I never see anyone bashing and trying so hard to discredit another news organization as they do Fox. I think they doth protest too much. Here's a novel idea,if you don't trust them,don't watch them. You're certainly not going to tell me that the other news outlets are trustworthy all the time are you? If anyone is in the bag for the president it has to be CNN and MSNBC.

Politics is full of corruption, both sides. No one has a handle on that,both sides have done things that are wrong. Its immature to think otherwise. And it wont stop till the Lord comes, nothing more to be said.

 

[kaylagrl]

^ I also have my quarrels with Islam. But bear in mind that Queen Victoria's, King Leopold's, and Hitler's invasions and genocide were all done in the name of Christianity. As we are instructed in the New Testament, clean out the log in your own eye before criticizing the speck in another's eye. On that basis, Christianity needs to get its own house in order before attacking Islam.

Quote " But bear in mind that Queen Victoria's, King Leopold's, and Hitler's invasions and genocide were all done in the name of Christianity. "

But its against what the Bible teaches!! Its not condoned by God. I can kill you and say Im doing it Yeraza's name,does that mean he told me to do it?! Or does it mean he condones my doing it?! No!!

Islam on the other hand talks about killing the Jew,the Christian and striking off their heads and other parts. Muhammed was a warrior and in the name of Islam millions have been murdered down through the centuries,with allahs blessing. There is a difference.



http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/world/heres-the-true-non-politically-correct-history-of-islams-violence

 

[Yeraza_Bats]

On top of that, Hitler is a bad example. Its pretty much accepted that though he claimed to be a follower of Christ, he very much wasnt, but was a populist merely trying to pander to the people of Germany.

I know he said things like "because of my faith in Jesus Christ", but he himself was very into occult things before his rise to power, and after being elected he pretty much made himself and the nazi party the religion of the nation by law. He was in no way a Christian.

 

[Sirk]

^ I also have my quarrels with Islam. But bear in mind that Queen Victoria's, King Leopold's, and Hitler's invasions and genocide were all done in the name of Christianity. As we are instructed in the New Testament, clean out the log in your own eye before criticizing the speck in another's eye. On that basis, Christianity needs to get its own house in order before attacking Islam.

So we have to go back to the 40's and beyond to clean the log out of our own eye? Besides the fact that the west went after Hitler. If you found one modern day Christian who is universally respected that is calling for conversion or death or to kill maim and destroy innocent men women and children you'd have a case. As it stands, there are zero zilch nada and the point you are attempting to drive home is devoid of any substance at all.

 

[ZEEK]

Fortunately Churchill admitted he was not a Christian, (he was an occult high priest and Master Freemason), otherwise his relentless firebombing campaigns and genocidal madness would take some serious Christian revisionism.

Islam, according to Dr Jones, a leading bible scholar, was created to correct the apostate church.

Last time I was in Morocco, I spent the afternoon talking about God with a devout Muslim man. It was very interesting.

Everybody will be judged by their fruits. When it comes to Islam, we should either be witnessing in the highways and byways, or getting on with something more productive than being an accessory to the Neocon war on Arabs.

 

[peacenik]

So we have to go back to the 40's and beyond to clean the log out of our own eye? Besides the fact that the west went after Hitler. If you found one modern day Christian who is universally respected that is calling for conversion or death or to kill maim and destroy innocent men women and children you'd have a case. As it stands, there are zero zilch nada and the point you are attempting to drive home is devoid of any substance at all.

I could post the name Ann Coulter in response to your post as she is so beloved by so many deluded people in the far right. Michael Savage is also highly beloved and he called for the extermination of 100 million Muslims:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrItCt-1ccg

https://theislamicworkplace.com/200...de-9-michael-savage-kill-100-million-muslims/




Gary Cass is also well known and called for holy war against Muslims:


Gary Cass Calls For Holy War: 'Islam Has No Place In Civilized Society' | Right Wing Watch


there are more if you trouble yourself to google the subject

 

[peacenik]

And FactChecker is totally unbiased right?


We've already covered the fact that Christianity has the most adherents and that is expected to continue for the next decade. Not that numbers of adherents proves anything. Jesus had few that followed Him and the Bible says that few would find and follow the narrow path. So I don't believe that Christians are converting to Islam in the numbers you'd like to think. And after reading many of your posts here I have grave doubts that you are a Christian. I find you on the opposite side of truth every time you post,I dont think that is a coincidence. Islam is satanic, its easy for people to be pulled into his tricks but those who get a taste of real Islam,not the nice peaceful watered down American stuff, change their minds pretty quickly. These silly young women especially find out what its really all about when they find out a goat has more rights that they do.

Fox News has its place the same as any other news. I never see anyone bashing and trying so hard to discredit another news organization as they do Fox. I think they doth protest too much. Here's a novel idea,if you don't trust them,don't watch them. You're certainly not going to tell me that the other news outlets are trustworthy all the time are you? If anyone is in the bag for the president it has to be CNN and MSNBC.

Politics is full of corruption, both sides. No one has a handle on that,both sides have done things that are wrong. Its immature to think otherwise. And it wont stop till the Lord comes, nothing more to be said.

FactChecker

Always a popular source for right wingers when its findings are favorable to them.








Fox

Fox has repeatedly demonstrated that it is biased and has distorted its news such as showing right wing rallies that were devoid of people but using backgrounds of different rallies in order to make their side look good







silly young women


​The fact that they convert tells us more about Christian deficiencies than about the merits of Islam.

 

[Sirk]

Fortunately Churchill admitted he was not a Christian, (he was an occult high priest and Master Freemason), otherwise his relentless firebombing campaigns and genocidal madness would take some serious Christian revisionism.

Islam, according to Dr Jones, a leading bible scholar, was created to correct the apostate church.

Last time I was in Morocco, I spent the afternoon talking about God with a devout Muslim man. It was very interesting.

Everybody will be judged by their fruits. When it comes to Islam, we should either be witnessing in the highways and byways, or getting on with something more productive than being an accessory to the Neocon war on Arabs.

Ya...he starved a bunch of people diverting food to British troops. On the other hand Zeek....no need because the war is on your front doorstep. So now you can be an accessory to your fellow countrymen's blood on the streets.

 

[Sirk]

I could post the name Ann Coulter in response to your post as she is so beloved by so many deluded people in the far right. Michael Savage is also highly beloved and he called for the extermination of 100 million Muslims:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrItCt-1ccg

https://theislamicworkplace.com/200...de-9-michael-savage-kill-100-million-muslims/




Gary Cass is also well known and called for holy war against Muslims:


Gary Cass Calls For Holy War: 'Islam Has No Place In Civilized Society' | Right Wing Watch


there are more if you trouble yourself to google the subject

Nice try...not a respected "christian" leader to be found in your reply. Try again.

 

[Sirk]

I could post the name Ann Coulter in response to your post as she is so beloved by so many deluded people in the far right. Michael Savage is also highly beloved and he called for the extermination of 100 million Muslims:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrItCt-1ccg

https://theislamicworkplace.com/200...de-9-michael-savage-kill-100-million-muslims/




Gary Cass is also well known and called for holy war against Muslims:


Gary Cass Calls For Holy War: 'Islam Has No Place In Civilized Society' | Right Wing Watch


there are more if you trouble yourself to google the subject

Why do you hate America?

 

[ZEEK]

Ya...he starved a bunch of people diverting food to British troops. On the other hand Zeek....no need because the war is on your front doorstep. So now you can be an accessory to your fellow countrymen's blood on the streets.

To be an accessory to my fellow countrymen's blood, I would need to be actively involved in promoting radical Islam, or a supporter of ISIS.

I would happily blow all of these people up, and to suggest I have some connection with them on your part is both criminal and despicable.

However it is well-known that the accusation you level at me rebounds closer to your home.

May God be your Judge.

I am seething with anger at your vile pernicious sick comment. May God judge you.

 

[Ugly]

Fox
Fox has repeatedly demonstrated that it is biased and has distorted its news such as showing right wing rallies that were devoid of people but using backgrounds of different rallies in order to make their side look good

And every other news source is biased the other direction. Pot, meet kettle.

 

[Tintin]

There's no such thing as radical Islam, there is only Islam.

 

[Sirk]

To be an accessory to my fellow countrymen's blood, I would need to be actively involved in promoting radical Islam, or a supporter of ISIS.

I would happily blow all of these people up, and to suggest I have some connection with them on your part is both criminal and despicable.

However it is well-known that the accusation you level at me rebounds closer to your home.

May God be your Judge.

I am seething with anger at your vile pernicious sick comment. May God judge you.

Instead of seething with anger why don't you spell out what you mean about this more productive thing that you were speaking of? I imagine it has to do with allowing the invasion to continue.

 

[kaylagrl]

FactChecker

Always a popular source for right wingers when its findings are favorable to them.








Fox

Fox has repeatedly demonstrated that it is biased and has distorted its news such as showing right wing rallies that were devoid of people but using backgrounds of different rallies in order to make their side look good







silly young women


​The fact that they convert tells us more about Christian deficiencies than about the merits of Islam.

Fox News isn't my bible, I can find out what is true myself. If people follow anything without getting facts its their own stupidity.


Quote "The fact that they convert tells us more about Christian deficiencies than about the merits of Islam. "

Lol ok so you think Islam treats women better than Christians huh? Christian deficiencies compared to Islam. Thats possibly the most ridiculous thing Ive head in a long time.

 

[Yeraza_Bats]

I wanna point out that the belief that more and more people are converting to Islam is not 100% true. Muslims (especially in middle eastern nations) are reproducing at a high rate, a higher rate than the peoples in the west (US and Europe), and on top of that, the quran commands that anyone who leaves his Islamic faith is to be put to death. And many nations follow that commandment, and even here in the US, when a Muslim leaves their faith, the family disowns them. So there is a fear of those who do leave to tell others they have, or to leave it in general.

So it is not entirely true that allllll these people are coming to Islam, there are alot of different factors here. There are, however, many many people coming to Christ, especially in the eastern parts of the world, and even in the Muslim communities. We should continue praying that the Lord help these people leave the lies and confusion of the world and come to Him.

 

[peacenik]

Why do you hate America?

Stop with the nonsensical accusations. You are being too childish.