1 Corinthians Chapter 1...Grammar Study

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How do you see my studies? (multichoice)

  • I have no interest in the studies

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  • They are ok if that is what you want to do

    Votes: 1 50.0%
  • They are perversive and should stop now

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  • You should present in a different manner

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  • I am learning from them

    Votes: 1 50.0%

  • Total voters
    2
  • Poll closed .
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GreenNnice

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GreenNnice .... my hope and prayer for you is the same as it is for all of us here and everywhere. But claiming that another was insinuating and that their very words were evil is pretty harsh stuff. I'm not looking to be divisive or oozing pus from an earlier time. We all make mistakes, myself included. Just remember this much. Christ never gives up on us ..... ever. And the grindmill cannot grind the flour with water that has passed.
Nothing to say, the Lord leads me, and I wouldn prefer your would leave this thread alone, EVERYONE!!!, the subversions of diversions started by one, continued with another, and, festered vía a thiefv, just Egipto the childish 'ima gonna tell' nonsense and GIT into a prayerful commune with Him and of He leads your to be touched by what's dais here, of milk and meat, fab.

I'm here to serve Him, KNOW that fact, I care of what mice (and men) say to me, but only as He leads me to receive their words, for His Word in me SOLELY governs my life, He in me for as cee's study verses just related read:
1Co 4:20 For the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.

Anyway, as I said last night, I MUST go early working and likely won't be able to participate in cee's ENLIGHTENING study to me , from His leading, until late today, I do appreciate your words, unclefes, Truth, we are to be at 'peace with all men as much as it is up to us.' Our flesh is REAL, may it in you become less and less daily, this I pray for me too, which will only happen by the grace of God through our letting Him lead our life, in power. :)
 
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cfultz3

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To those who responded to my request to give me an evaluation,

First I want to say thank you for taking the time to respond.

Of all which were said, one of the major things which people saw was an 'exultation' of me through Greenie.

Greenie expressed to us all his thoughts and reasoning behind this. In that it has influenced his relationship with God in a good way. In one way or another, we all are teachers, otherwise we would not correct errors of others when we perceive it. We just use different terms, even as the Bible does. Some say, teacher, schooling master, apostle, or imitators. Whatever one call us, we must understand, that is how they perceive us when they post in agreement, whether in a negative cognition towards those they think are of the other side or in a positive manner giving the one they are posting in agreement to a 'job well done' pat on the back. Or when they give us a a like. And I am sure as many as does give a like, there are an equal amount who would like to have a dislike button. In Conclusion, it is Christ who sends people with a message and what others perceive them as is between them and God.

Laying that aside, I see nothing else besides doctrinal differences of how to lead others to Christ. We simply preach the necessity of the full administration of the one God and that faith alone without works from the Spirit is dead. On the other hand, one only needs faith to enter the Kingdom of God and those of that field will rightfully proclaim this and will show work through love's compulsion, while yet others will lead others with the knowledge of freewill. You see, we all lead to Christ and He is our foundation as well as He is yours, as even the Holy Spirit only leads to Him also. I see our differences are how we do work, because of love's compulsion or because of we choose to return love because we were first loved.

What I used to use against the Gospel, I now use for the Gospel. What sort of servant would I be if I did not use what has been given to me: a deductive reasoning mind. In as much zest as I use now in the defense of the Gospel, I once used in the ridiculing of it. If I so let my light shine for others to see, what is that to my other brothers and sisters who also let their light shine and are schooling masters?

In God we trust with our souls,

C. Fultz 3
 

Bookends

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First of all, thank you for your honest opinion.

Please give me suggestions on how to fix the 'impression' I am giving to others that my words are better than Scripture.

The impression I get from your studies is this:

1) You use this forum to glorify your own wisdom and knowledge of the Word. Although you don't actually say it, but the impression I get is you think of yourself a super apostle ordained by God where as your words are equal with Holy Scripture. -- I like studying and sharing my studying. Do you think that I should keep my studying to myself or present in a format (example, if so). Honestly, what do I say or do that gives you the impression that I think my words are equal to Scripture?

It's what you don't say. There is never an open ended question to your reader(s), never do you say "in my opinion this means...", or, "I'm not sure about this, but I think", or "could this mean..., what's your opinion," etc. etc. However, in all fairness and that being said, there were times in some of my posts where I didn't present interpretation as my opinion, but I never claimed to have received "whatever" as one with authority over someone else's opinion or interpretation. I get the impression from reading your work that you think you have all the light and all the answers. I see no humility on your part, nor do I see anywhere in your notes that what you say are not infallible... Your format is more like a commentary then a study. Don't get me wrong, I like commentaries, but neither do I believe that Gill, Henry, Calvin, Wesley etc. have all the light either.

2) That you think your interpretations of the Word are infallible. Is this the reason why people do not post in here? How do I give this impression?

Maybe, I can only speculate and I can't speak for others in why they don't post here. By never openly admitting that you could be wrong sometimes, or that simply stating that these are "things" that you think are correct, but not absolute certain. Somethings we can be certain of, but anyone thinking that they are led 100% of the time and have a monopoly on scripture raises a red flag in my mind. Open things up for more discussion. Or simply state that your studies are your commentary on scripture.

3) The exultation of your protege GreenNnice is revolting to me.

4) It is obvious to me that your following is small, mostly of GreenNnice, and a few other commenters.

This being said, I will also apologize for being so blunt in the matter. But you are the one that asked. -- Honesty is what I wanted and you have given it.

In this statement you have shown integrity and humility. And in all honesty, I am biased toward most of your works here, because of your stance on some doctrines we disagree on.

Your studies may very well have much truth in them, but could be mixed in with unintentional untruths.
-- But I guess that goes back to people not posting here for or against what I say.

We are to test all things, and hold fast unto what is good. I for one, in most cases don't want to stick my neck out, because I'll get my head chopped off. I'm not sure why I did it this time maybe because you were calling for another witness... and I did get called a prosecutor of a believe by another believer. I'm tired of the name calling.

But neither do I have the time or patience to read through it all, for I much rather prefer my own personal studies and rely on them to receive God's word into me and His leading in my life. -- Me too and what I do study, I post here. So, perhaps this is the reason why people do not repsond?

Yes, that is one possibility. And maybe I'm completely off base in my impression, after all I do claim that we can't trust our own thoughts, dreams, visions (I'll add impressions) etc. etc. and need to hold everything up a subject framework, the Word of God.

The Internet is a place where any want-a-bee can portray him or herself as anyone they imagine. It is one thing to speak words of wisdom on an Internet forum and to actually preach them in real life, applying Godly principles of daily living in front of peers (unsaved and saved) and to live them out in a crucified life to Christ. Therefore I take anyone's words here with a grain of salt, hold fast to what is good and what speaks to me, and throw out the rest. I'm sure you may have the exact sediments about what others or I say on here as well, so I mean no offense really. -- No offense taken here. But with that said, why then do any of us post on CC?

Everyone has their own reasons. I'd say some want closure in their belief system, some want fellowship, some want to stir up contention, and some want to show off what they think they know... etc. etc.

I ask you and God for forgiveness if my intentions and comments here are of the flesh, if I am wrong in my statements about your character, intentions and love for God. But I agree with Mari's statements concerning this thread. -- But as you say, you do not know me and I do not know you, so you would not know my 'real life' as I you. I can, just as you, set here and tell them, but then again, we are left with the same sentiment of, 'who are you really'.

So maybe we should be more personalible on here in the general forums, instead of instructive, constructive and decisive. I far more enjoy your comments to other peoples posts then reading your studies ( I'm not trying to depreciate your work at all ).

I am prepared to called jealous, or not know anything, un-led or blastpheming the HS in which many get called who disagree with some of your doctrines. Regardless of what is said of me, I choose to forgive you and/or anyone else as the Lord in heaven has forgiven me. Amen -- Likewise. But if one considers the Spirit of God and Jesus a thing, a figment of a loons psychotic thoughts, then yes that 'one' is blastphemious. It is the Spirit who leads to all Truth, and by which same Spirit we are giving the mind of Christ, and if that Spirit is so thought of in a disguisting manner then yes, that 'one' knows nothing. And I will continue telling that person the same. But, I know you are not saying this here. So, none of this applies to you.

Do you claim to have all truth? Are you led 100% of the time? I believe there is a difference between the dwelling Holy Spirit and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. If you claim to have all the truth, and indwelling Holy Spirit in all that you do and say, then I'd say you are claiming for yourself a special calling and apostleship like status of an 1st century apostle.

In my opinion, there is a big difference between the 1st century apostles and today's Christian leaders, teaches, ministers etc. because in the 1st Century, what qualified them to be apostles of Christ, was their personal and physical walk with Christ. Paul was the only exception, but he did know of Christ as a pharasee and later had Christ touch him super-naturally which led to His conversion and calling.

God's peace and love you my friend.
 
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cfultz3

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God's peace and love you my friend.
Will you take a look at post 117 and see if that impression is not being worked on?


Your thoughts are taken into consideration.
 
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cfultz3

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Will you take a look at post 117 and see if that impression is not being worked on?


Your thoughts are taken into consideration.

This is the thought that I will take away from our conversation and if you do not feel it is all which you meant to say, please correct it:

So maybe we should be more personalible on here in the general forums, instead of instructive, constructive and decisive. I far more enjoy your comments to other peoples posts then reading your studies ( I'm not trying to depreciate your work at all ).
 

Bookends

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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]I am trying a different format. Instead of breaking things up into verses, I will be breaking things up into paragraphs and presenting information in blocks. I may not properly break things up, but my intentions are well meant. I would like feedback as to if this format is better or should we stay with verse by verse.[/FONT]







[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]KJV 1Co 1:1 Paul, called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother, [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]KJV 1Co 1:2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours: [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]KJV 1Co 1:3 Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. [/FONT]​




[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]1Co 1:1-3 Paul, a called (invited) apostle of Jesus Christ through (channel of an act) God's will, and Brother Sosthenes. To the church (gathering, assembly) of God, the one being in Corinth, having had beensanctified (made holy) by(instrumentality)Christ Jesus, called (invited) saints (holy ones) together with all those everywhere who are calling upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ to themselves (middle voice), both theirs and ours (Lord). Grace be unto you* and peace from (departure)God our Father and from (same) Lord Jesus Christ.[/FONT]​


[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Notes:[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]having had been sanctified (peRfect passive Participle) = properly, it means 'the sanctified church". The perfect tells us that it was an one time event. The passive tells us that they received the action. The participle tells us that it is an adverb describing 'church' (those gathered together). It is not telling us that all churches are sanctified, but that this particular one has been.[/FONT]​


[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]calling upon...to themselves = that is, to call upon Jesus to present Himself to them. Example, "Henry was called upon to present himself to testify in court." So, to call upon the name of Jesus is to call upon Him to present Himself to you. In the sense of invoking (God! My God).[/FONT]​


[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]peace from God and Jesus = this tells us that there are at least 2 in the Godhead where peace can come from. But Revelation 1:4-5 tells us that peace can come from God the Father, the seven Spirits (seven manifestations of the Spirit), and from Jesus Christ. The absence of mentioning the Spirit here does not diminish the existence or even the importance of the Spirit, but does agree with the teaching of the Spirit not speaking of Himself but of God the Father and Jesus Christ.[/FONT]​
What does Paul mean by this church being sanctified?
 
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cfultz3

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What does Paul mean by this church being sanctified?

In my opinion, Paul is telling us that they (that church (those gathered together)) were purified (claensed) and were made a temple of God so that His Spirit would/could dwell there. And from my understanding from other verses of this book, one can defile that temple. ETC......
 

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In my opinion, Paul is telling us that they (that church (those gathered together)) were purified (claensed) and were made a temple of God so that His Spirit would/could dwell there. And from my understanding from other verses of this book, one can defile that temple. ETC......
Reading this I thought of the story of the king's son's wedding, and how many were invited, and did not come.
But the part that struck me, was the king invited because of this everyone.
The interesting part about weddings in the time this story is told, is that when one came to a wedding, the host provided the wedding cloths for all who came to wear.
It is this part that struck me, as we are invited to the wedding, God provides the clothing, santification, thus wearing acceptible clothing. :)

Something just came to mind while writing this....
The wedding is Jesus to Isreal.
I know there is alot of debate about who Isreal is as the bride.
But if one considers all given in the story.
We are invited to this wedding because those first invited refused to come.
We are made acceptible by the clothing the king provides.
The wedding is for the son of the King.
To His bride, Isreal.
Its just giving me something to consider and think about and how all works to the teachings we recive in scripture?

What are your thoughts on this. :)

God bless
pickles
 

Bookends

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In my opinion, Paul is telling us that they (that church (those gathered together)) were purified (claensed) and were made a temple of God so that His Spirit would/could dwell there. And from my understanding from other verses of this book, one can defile that temple. ETC......
So this sanctification is an outward covering, a cleansing of the power and blood of Christ, which Paul demonstrates from chapter 1 is a very simple message. First, they were sanctified for what Christ did and secondly, for their belief of it, and no other wisdom was needed. For if the church was sanctified inwardly, 100% following Christ in the Spirit there would be no reason for Paul's rebuke of them. The first problem, as you pointed out, was division. This division was not just a warning to them, it was an actual existing problem.

So the application I draw from this is that we are sanctified, separated from world the by God for His communion (redemption) with us and to do His work (a simple message)...But in order to do that, we need a working of God within us, ever conforming us into His image, an inward sanctification (sometimes a hard and painful process because of our own selfish desires, which requires us to crucify our self and to open up ourselves to God's desires and not our own).

Am I correct in saying this? Do you agree their are 2 types of sanctification? An outward, initial covering of the blood that separates us from those who are perishing and an inward sanctification of our hearts that needs to be worked out by God and His communion (dealings) with us (which often works through us in our emotions of fear and trembling, which always brings us around full circle back to His love, mercy and grace).
 
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cfultz3

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Reading this I thought of the story of the king's son's wedding, and how many were invited, and did not come.
But the part that struck me, was the king invited because of this everyone.
The interesting part about weddings in the time this story is told, is that when one came to a wedding, the host provided the wedding cloths for all who came to wear.
It is this part that struck me, as we are invited to the wedding, God provides the clothing, santification, thus wearing acceptible clothing. :)

Something just came to mind while writing this....
The wedding is Jesus to Isreal.
I know there is alot of debate about who Isreal is as the bride.
But if one considers all given in the story.
We are invited to this wedding because those first invited refused to come.
We are made acceptible by the clothing the king provides.
The wedding is for the son of the King.
To His bride, Isreal.
Its just giving me something to consider and think about and how all works to the teachings we recive in scripture?

What are your thoughts on this. :)

God bless
pickles
This is a very interesting and agreeable explanation of sanctification. I also see sanctification as our clothing to the wedding. And I thik I remember somewhere it speaks of the brightness of that clothing is different for each 'quest'. Do you know where it is spoken about? I know we all will be santified so that we can stand before God blameless and without spot, doesn't that brigtness have something to do with rewards? Please correct me if I am wrong.

God bless you also Pickles

Chris
 
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cfultz3

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Am I correct in saying this? Do you agree their are 2 types of sanctification? An outward, initial covering of the blood that separates us from those who are perishing and an inward sanctification of our hearts that needs to be worked out by God and His communion (dealings) with us (which often works through us in our emotions of fear and trembling, which always brings us around full circle back to His love, mercy and grace).
Eg explained to me that there were two sanctifications, just like you here, there is one outwardly (the redemption of one's soul through faith (being presented blameless)), and one inwardly (the circumcision of the heart (being presented without spot)). The quotes are my understandings. So yes, you would be correct in saying this of me.
 
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Eg explained to me that there were two sanctifications, just like you here, there is one outwardly (the redemption of one's soul through faith (being presented blameless)), and one inwardly (the circumcision of the heart (being presented without spot)). The quotes are my understandings. So yes, you would be correct in saying this of me.
in addition:

Seeing that one must be transformed from within after having been justified outwardly, I do not think it would be possible to be presented to God without the second form of sanctification. Seeing that it also says that we are to become Christ's workers. And I think that is accomplished through being led by His Spirit to do God's will and purpose in our lives.
 

Bookends

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in addition:

Seeing that one must be transformed from within after having been justified outwardly, I do not think it would be possible to be presented to God without the second form of sanctification. Seeing that it also says that we are to become Christ's workers. And I think that is accomplished through being led by His Spirit to do God's will and purpose in our lives.
I would argue that once sanctified outwardly, that the process of inward sanctification must happen, not to point of 100% Christ like in nature, although maybe close to it. Also, IMO, we won't be fully sanctified till the day of our resurrection and glorification. I would also argue that some people's inward sanctification process and increase happen at different rates (and may decrease for a short time for a stiff necked believer, as such I was for a long time). Also I might add that when believers die we may each of us received or achieved a different amount of inward sanctification, and will be rewarded accordingly. But if over a lifetime a "so called believer" has no inward sanctification, they never received the outward sanctification to begin with. Would you agree with this?

I feel like I"m getting off track, but oh well.
 
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in addition:

Seeing that one must be transformed from within after having been justified outwardly, I do not think it would be possible to be presented to God without the second form of sanctification. Seeing that it also says that we are to become Christ's workers. And I think that is accomplished through being led by His Spirit to do God's will and purpose in our lives.
There is a problem with this though. This would state that one would be without sin. And still not need the first aspect of sanctification. We can not present ourself without Spot. Christ presents us to his father without spot. based on What Christ did (justification)

While I agree 100 % we should do whatever we can to bring our 2nd type of sanctification to match the first type. I do not think we can ever make it. Nor do I believe everyone who is a child of God will even come close to matching it.

What worries me is those who say the second MUST match the first, or we will be lost. When in reality, the second will not match the first in our lifetime until we are resurrected. and receive our bodies which is free from all sin. Which is called glorification.


Look at it this way,

1. Justification produces positional sanctification. and is done by God
2. Conditional sanctification is done by us, and will waver in shape and height as we move closer to God, and/or struggle with our day to day lives.
3. glorification, brought about because of justification, will cause our conditional sanctification to match our positional sanctification, and this is called glorification.

what we see is this. What God did already (justify, sanctify) is perfect. What he will do us in the future (glorify) us is also perfect. because it is based on him.

what depends on us (sanctification or spiritual maturity) will never be perfect. because it rely on us.Paul said at the end of his life he continued to run the race. Paul knew he had not yet got there, If paul did not get close, I would be foolish to think I would ever make it. All I can do is do what he did, continue to run the race
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I would argue that once sanctified outwardly, that the process of inward sanctification must happen, not to point of 100% Christ like in nature, although maybe close to it. Also, IMO, we won't be fully sanctified till the day of our resurrection and glorification. I would also argue that some people's inward sanctification process and increase happen at different rates (and may decrease for a short time for a stiff necked believer, as such I was for a long time). Also I might add that when believers die we may each of us received or achieved a different amount of inward sanctification, and will be rewarded accordingly. But if over a lifetime a "so called believer" has no inward sanctification, they never received the outward sanctification to begin with. Would you agree with this?

I feel like I"m getting off track, but oh well.
Faith without works is dead. If one shows no sign of ever growing in Christ (inward sanctification) they had mere belief, and not true faith, which saved. i agree!
 
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cfultz3

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I would argue that once sanctified outwardly, that the process of inward sanctification must happen, not to point of 100% Christ like in nature, although maybe close to it.

When you said this, I was reminded of those who were delivered in the wilderness and through stiffneckedness, God, who in His own timing, said enough of seeing my works, of testing me, etc... You will not entered my rest. The point I am trying to convey is, just like them, it is what is done with that deliverance by one's own freewill that determines if they will return to that which they were delivered from in the first place. Dont' get me wrong, if they would have repented, they would have been of those who did enter. But they, nonethless, did not turn back around to His Voice but stayed in rebellion to His will.


Also, IMO, we won't be fully sanctified till the day of our resurrection and glorification.
I would also argue that some people's inward sanctification process and increase happen at different rates (and may decrease for a short time for a stiff necked believer, as such I was for a long time). Also I might add that when believers die we may each of us received or achieved a different amount of inward sanctification, and will be rewarded accordingly.

In agreement.

But if over a lifetime a "so called believer" has no inward sanctification, they never received the outward sanctification to begin with. Would you agree with this?

No. Only for the simply fact that the freewill given to us to do what we will with the seed planted in us is not mentioned. While writting that last statement, I was reminded where it is spoken about how the dog did return to his vomit and the swine to her mire. To me, for them to have returned means that they must have been on the path to deliverance (justified by faith), but saw their old joys more pleasurable and re-turn (to turn back away from God). This again is speaking of those who willfully live in defiance to God's will, not those who err and repent and re-turn to the path lead by God.


I feel like I"m getting off track, but oh well.
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There is a problem with this though. This would state that one would be without sin. And still not need the first aspect of sanctification. We can not present ourself without Spot. Christ presents us to his father without spot. based on What Christ did (justification)

While I agree 100 % we should do whatever we can to bring our 2nd type of sanctification to match the first type. I do not think we can ever make it. Nor do I believe everyone who is a child of God will even come close to matching it.

What worries me is those who say the second MUST match the first, or we will be lost. When in reality, the second will not match the first in our lifetime until we are resurrected. and receive our bodies which is free from all sin. Which is called glorification.


Look at it this way,

1. Justification produces positional sanctification. and is done by God
2. Conditional sanctification is done by us, and will waver in shape and height as we move closer to God, and/or struggle with our day to day lives.
3. glorification, brought about because of justification, will cause our conditional sanctification to match our positional sanctification, and this is called glorification.

what we see is this. What God did already (justify, sanctify) is perfect. What he will do us in the future (glorify) us is also perfect. because it is based on him.

what depends on us (sanctification or spiritual maturity) will never be perfect. because it rely on us.Paul said at the end of his life he continued to run the race. Paul knew he had not yet got there, If paul did not get close, I would be foolish to think I would ever make it. All I can do is do what he did, continue to run the race

Allow me to reword it

in addition:

Seeing that one must be in the process of being transformed from within after having been justified outwardly (knowing that God will complete what He has started), I do not think it would be possible to be presented to God without the second form of sanctification (that is, having faith alone). Seeing that it also says that we are to become Christ's workers. And I think that is accomplished through being led by His Spirit to do God's will and purpose in our lives.
 
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I am reminded of this.

14 For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified.

1 offering by faith in Christ.
2. God has perfected FOREVER those who are his.
3. Our sanctification is a work in progress, but our justification is forever, and can never end.


A prodigal son was a true son, sanctified in his fathers house. Yet he left his fathers house, and was no longer completely sanctified, because he still had his fathers name (he lost his blessings, but still had his name) Even if the son had died while he was gone, he would have still had his fathers name, thus would still be called the son of the father. why? Because by one offering God perfected the son forever.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Allow me to reword it
Seeing that one must be in the process of being transformed from within after having been justified outwardly (knowing that God will complete what He has started), I do not think it would be possible to be presented to God without the second form of sanctification (that is, having faith alone). Seeing that it also says that we are to become Christ's workers. And I think that is accomplished through being led by His Spirit to do God's will and purpose in our lives.
actually this confuses me more.

without the second form of sanctification (faith alone) what does this mean? We received the first part by faith alone. And yes, faith will bring us to the second part. But our faith will always be in flux. some days we will trust more. some days less. etc etc.

yes we are to become Christ's workers. Are you saying this spomething we must do to be presented to God as holy and without spot? If this is so, we would have to be perfect in doing this. this is why I questioned what you said.
 
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I am reminded of this.

14 For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified. -- In total agreement to this. Those who are being sanctified have no need for anything else to be complete (to be presented blameless and without spot). His offering is indeed everything which a person needs.

1 offering by faith in Christ.
2. God has perfected FOREVER those who are his.
3. Our sanctification is a work in progress, but our justification is forever, and can never end.

A prodigal son was a true son, sanctified in his fathers house. Yet he left his fathers house, and was no longer completely sanctified, because he still had his fathers name (he lost his blessings, but still had his name) Even if the son had died while he was gone, he would have still had his fathers name, thus would still be called the son of the father. why? Because by one offering God perfected the son forever.
I accept this is the way you see it.