10 Concise Reasons to Remember the Sabbath

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mailmandan

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The Sabbath was instituted long before there was any such notion of a Jew.
The word "Sabbath" first appears in Exodus 16:23 - Then he said to them, “This is what the Lord has said: ‘Tomorrow is a Sabbath rest, a holy Sabbath to the Lord. Bake what you will bake today, and boil what you will boil; and lay up for yourselves all that remains, to be kept until morning.

If every man from Adam to Moses kept the Sabbath, why is the Hebrew word for the weekly Sabbath found in the Ten Commandments, never found in the book of Genesis? Why is no one before Moses ever being told to keep the Sabbath? Why are there no examples of anyone keeping the Sabbath before Moses? Why were the Patriarchs never instructed about the Sabbath, but were instructed regarding: offerings: Genesis 4:3-4, Altars Genesis 8:20, Priests: Genesis 14:18, Tithes: Genesis 14:20, Circumcision: Genesis 17:10, Marriage: Genesis 2:24 and Genesis 34:9. Why would God leave out the Sabbath command in Genesis if it was for everyone to keep before Moses?

My bible says that the Sabbath was made for "man", not Jew.
Sabbatarians often quote Mark 2:27 to imply that the Sabbath was made for all mankind, but the text doesn't say that. It doesn't say, "The Sabbath was made for "mankind", it says, "the Sabbath was made for man." When the Scripture is meant to be inclusive of all mankind it is clear. See Matthew 28:19; John 3:16; Acts 2:17; I Timothy 2:4; Titus 2:11. These verses clearly indicate that when God offers something to all mankind He clearly offers it to all.

The Sabbath was not offered to all the nations. It was given only to the nation of Israel. Look at Deuteronomy 5:1-15 which gives the commandments to Israel. 2 The Lord our God made a covenant with us in Horeb. 3 The Lord did not make this covenant with our fathers, but with us, those who are here today, all of us who are alive.

Nehemiah 9:13 - “Then You came down on Mount Sinai, And spoke with them from heaven; You gave them just ordinances and true laws, Good statutes and commandments. 14 “So You made known to them Your holy sabbath, And laid down for them commandments, statutes and law, Through Your servant Moses.

The Sabbath was given for us to rest, not for man to be burdened with a lot of regulations to keep.
Sabbath keeping with all it's regulations, was part of a covenant with Israel (Exodus 16:23, 29; 31:12-18; 35:1-3; Leviticus 19:30; 23:2-3, 32; Numbers 15:32-36; 28:1-10; 29:39-40; I Chronicles. 23:30-31; II Chronicles 31:2-4; Isaiah 1:13; Amos 8:5; Nehemiah 10:31) that is not binding on the Church under the New Covenant (Romans 14:5; Galatians 4:9-11; Colossians 2:16-17).

Please quote a scripture from Jesus or the Apostles, that instruct the Church as to how to observe the Sabbath under the New Covenant.
There are no instructions for the Church on how to observe the Sabbath under the New Covenant because the Sabbath was for Israel under the Old Covenant (Exodus 35:1-3) and not the Church under the New Covenant.
 

Studyman

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This kind of reasoning is flawed because it only points to Jesus' Sabbath keeping and ignores the rest of His Jewish lifestyle. Jesus also kept Kosher laws. He kept the Passover, Sukkot, Hanukkah, and worshipped in the temple. Are we to follow everything Jesus did under the law? Galatians 4:4-5 says that Jesus lived under the Law to redeem us from the Law. But when the fullness of the time had come, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the law, 5 to redeem those who were under the law, that we might receive the adoption as sons.

I understand that you believe Jesus followed "worthless Jewish traditions". But I don't believe Jesus follow Jewish tradition and here is why.

7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Jesus exposed the Mainstream Religious traditions of His time as from man, and not from God. Your implication that He followed these same doctrines and traditions is just not true.

I think this deception is because of another false teaching I see you post from time to time and that is the false teaching that the Pharisees were trying to "Earn" Salvation by following God's Commandments. This is just not true either if the Bible is the source of information.

I would post all the scriptures which prove this Biblical fact but I have already done it several times and you rejected it.

Jesus worshipped with His Disciples walking outside the Temple on the Sabbath Day as well. He was born under the same Laws of atonement that everyone since Moses was born under. He knew He was the High Priest and it might be prudent to note that He walking all the Commandments of God, but didn't follow the Levitical Priesthood. He forgave sins without ever having killed a goat or bull and sprinkle blood on the alter. How did He do this before He shed His own Blood?

"But when the fullness of the time had come, God sent forth His Son" This was in fulfillment of the Jer. 31 promise to "change" how sins were atoned for and how God's Laws were administered as is it to this day.

The teaching that He destroyed or eliminated the teaching of the Law and Prophets when He came is just not true, if His Word's are our source of information.

If I listen to religious man, then I would have to reject all these scriptures. Why would a man do that?
 

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I understand that you believe Jesus followed "worthless Jewish traditions". But I don't believe Jesus follow Jewish tradition and here is why.

7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Jesus exposed the Mainstream Religious traditions of His time as from man, and not from God. Your implication that He followed these same doctrines and traditions is just not true.

I think this deception is because of another false teaching I see you post from time to time and that is the false teaching that the Pharisees were trying to "Earn" Salvation by following God's Commandments. This is just not true either if the Bible is the source of information.

I would post all the scriptures which prove this Biblical fact but I have already done it several times and you rejected it.

Jesus worshipped with His Disciples walking outside the Temple on the Sabbath Day as well. He was born under the same Laws of atonement that everyone since Moses was born under. He knew He was the High Priest and it might be prudent to note that He walking all the Commandments of God, but didn't follow the Levitical Priesthood. He forgave sins without ever having killed a goat or bull and sprinkle blood on the alter. How did He do this before He shed His own Blood?

"But when the fullness of the time had come, God sent forth His Son" This was in fulfillment of the Jer. 31 promise to "change" how sins were atoned for and how God's Laws were administered as is it to this day.

The teaching that He destroyed or eliminated the teaching of the Law and Prophets when He came is just not true, if His Word's are our source of information.

If I listen to religious man, then I would have to reject all these scriptures. Why would a man do that?
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Hebrews 7:18
For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.
Heb. 7:
11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?

12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.

14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.

15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,

16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.

According to the Priesthood Laws given by God through Moses, a Priest was "Appointed" by another priest. Both carnal men. But Jesus changed this Priesthood.

17 For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.

Jesus wasn't appointed to the Priesthood according to the Priesthood Laws. He changed them because of carnal man.

Heb. 8:
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
8 For finding fault with them,(Carnal Priests who created their own religion) he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

19 For the law( Sprinkling goats blood on the alter for atonement of sins) made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God. (Have our sins forgiven)
 

Studyman

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="mailmandan, post: 3668757, member: 193497"]The word "Sabbath" first appears in Exodus 16:23 - Then he said to them, “This is what the Lord has said: ‘Tomorrow is a Sabbath rest, a holy Sabbath to the Lord. Bake what you will bake today, and boil what you will boil; and lay up for yourselves all that remains, to be kept until morning.

If every man from Adam to Moses kept the Sabbath, why is the Hebrew word for the weekly Sabbath found in the Ten Commandments, never found in the book of Genesis? Why is no one before Moses ever being told to keep the Sabbath? Why are there no examples of anyone keeping the Sabbath before Moses? Why were the Patriarchs never instructed about the Sabbath, but were instructed regarding: offerings: Genesis 4:3-4, Altars Genesis 8:20, Priests: Genesis 14:18, Tithes: Genesis 14:20, Circumcision: Genesis 17:10, Marriage: Genesis 2:24 and Genesis 34:9. Why would God leave out the Sabbath command in Genesis if it was for everyone to keep before Moses?
You are making assumptions to preserve your ancient religious traditions.

Gen. 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

You only assume God hid His "sanctified day" from Adam and his children. I assume He did not hide His Creation from Adam.

Gen. 6:
5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.
9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.

You only assume God hid His Sanctified Day from Noah because it isn't mentioned.

Gen. 7:
1 And the LORD said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation.
2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.
3 Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth.

Nothing is mentioned regarding God's Creation of clean animals and unclean animals before Noah. yet he knew what they were.

5 And Noah did according unto all that the LORD commanded him.

Did God hide from Adam what was clean and what was unclean? You can assume so if you wish. I can't find any reason to assume such a thing.

Gen. 26:
4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;
5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.


You only assume God's Laws didn't include His Sanctified Day for Abraham. We do know they were God's Laws. We do know Levi wasn't born yet so the Levitical Priesthood wasn't added until 430 years later.

So you only assume God's Sabbath didn't exist before Moses. But God had already "Blessed" His Holy Day and "Sanctified" His Holy Day. Why would He hide it from man?
 

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always with the complete missing of the point?

no one entered His rest by observation of signs.

those who rest in Him do so by faith.
 

Studyman

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always with the complete missing of the point?

no one entered His rest by observation of signs.

those who rest in Him do so by faith.
I get your point Post. I have studied your posts. It's not that I miss your point. I get it perfectly. It's that I don't believe in your religious doctrines because, as the scriptures have shown, they do not align with "All" of the Word's which Proceed out of the Mouth of God.

I don't believe in your definition of "Faith". I don't believe the Pharisees were trying to earn salvation by following God's Commandments. I don't believe God's Words or instructions are "rudiments of the World", I don't believe Jesus followed "Jewish Traditions".

I haven't seen where anyone in the Bible was blessed for judging or rejecting God's Words, creating images of God in the likeness of man, creating "Feasts unto the Lord", transgressing God's Commandments by man made traditions. All these things were important to the Word which became Flesh, His Prophets, His Disciples and Paul. So these things are also important to me.


But that's OK Post. We are all free to choose.
 

Studyman

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one small issue with your private interpretation that Colossians is instructing believers to judge one another over shadows:
Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
(Matthew 7:1-2)
did you have a nice Rosh Chodesh?
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

I will choose God's Judgment over yours or religious man's every time. You shouldn't be angry or troubled about that, just like Cain shouldn't have been angry with Abel. Maybe you should read a little further along in Matthew 7.

16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body (is) of Christ.

I will not let you or religious man judge me in honor and respect towards the Words and instructions of the Word which became Flesh.

Following religious traditions and doctrines of man, well that is something to beware of. Thank God for His Judgments.
 

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It was never against God's instructions to take a walk on the Sabbath day in fellowship with Him and pick a black berry or ear of corn to munch on. The Mainstream Preachers of Christ's time had corrupted God's Law to the point that they actually believed the God of Abraham considered walking and eating an apple or ear of corn on the Sabbath a sin. It was not a sin, yet "many", in Mainstream Christianity today, have adopted the Pharisees version of God's instruction regarding the Sabbath and have created their own religious doctrine based on this false perception.

For me it isn't about this day or that. It's about what the Bible says. "Many" who come in Christ's name, imply in their preaching that God's instructions spoken of in Colossians are a "Vain deceit", "Tradition of man," and "Rudiments of the World". They are free to believe this, and preach if that is their wish, but I do not believe this teaching. I think Paul was warning against religious traditions of man VS. the righteous instructions from the Christ, the Word which became Flesh.

I posted because this is a Bible discussion site and I don't believe the Bible supports the implication that God's "HOLY" Days or God's Sabbaths are a "Vain Deceit" or traditions of man. I think many believe this because of another perception commonly held and taught in Mainstream Christianity and that is the preaching that the Pharisees were trying to "Earn" Salvation by following God's Commandments. This foundational doctrine is an insidious lie that infects and corrupts the Gospel. Jesus didn't hold to this religious doctrine and neither do I.

Matt. 23:4 For they (Pharisees, Not God) bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

Matt. 15:
7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Neither Jesus, nor His Disciples did what was forbidden on the Sabbath that Jesus, as the Word, created for man. The Pharisees Sabbath, maybe, but not God's. The Mainstream Preachers of His time believed and taught falsehoods about the Sabbath. Understanding this Biblical truth would change the way you look at many scriptures.

According to the Jesus of the Bible, God created His Laws for sinners, that would be me. The 4th Commandment is one of these Laws that He created along with don't create images of God in the likeness of man,(even a long haired handsome one) don't kill, don't lie. Love your neighbor, etc. We all know His Commandments from the least to the greatest. Now religious man has chosen to judge some of God's instructions as unworthy of their respect. This is not a new thing.

The Serpent convinced Eve to do the same thing. And the Mainstream Preachers of Christ's time judged God's Word as well.

Matt. 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

I don't believe we have the right to "omit" or "judge" one of God's Words over another. I understand this view of God's Word isn't in line with "many" religious doctrines and traditions of today, and that even speaking like this causes anger. But I also believe the truth of God's Word is more important than feeding the pride of man. I think the Bible should be used to create doctrine, not used as a tool to support man made doctrines and traditions.

I don't believe I am saved once I "keep His Sabbath". But I do believe in Jesus, both as a man, and as the Word which became Flesh. So if He walked in His Fathers Sabbaths, and if He says His Sabbath is Holy, and if He said He created His Sabbath for humans who have sinned, then who am I to argue with Him? In fact, why would I even want to?

Maybe religious man has finally found another way. And then again, maybe Jesus was justified in His Warning.

Matt. 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
seriously? now you're pulling Matthew 7?

I think you Sabbath sellers must be thinking you are sitting behind the judgement seat and calling out 'worker of iniquity' or maybe behind the person up for judgement and you are either giving a thumbs up or a thumbs down while Jesus looks to you to decide what to do

no I'm not in the least being sacreligious. you folks really think more highly of yourselves than you ought to

The Serpent convinced Eve to do the same thing. And the Mainstream Preachers of Christ's time judged God's Word as well.
and then we have teaching of demons that the NT talks about...where people think they are on to something...deep revelation and ooo so spooky things that only the elite can understand

I would get chills here, but I live down south

kindly find someone else to indoctrinate

I'm already hard line New Covenant with a real good foundation in the OT
 

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According to the Jesus of the Bible, God created His Laws for sinners, that would be me. The 4th Commandment is one of these Laws that He created along with don't create images of God in the likeness of man,(even a long haired handsome one) don't kill, don't lie. Love your neighbor, etc. We all know His Commandments from the least to the greatest. Now religious man has chosen to judge some of God's instructions as unworthy of their respect. This is not a new thing.
oh this is so typical

'the Jesus of the Bible'...I'm surprised you didn't say 'the God I believe in'

actually God offered His only Son for sinners...so that they are now referred to as Saints

but I understand when someone just cannot let go of the OT, they pray in public and shake their bells and pomegranites a little while looking out the side of their eyes to make sure they are seen

that, is what your lawkeeping is

God entered His rest on the 7th day and nowhere does it say He got busy creating again

don't forget to keep all the ordinances and daily living instructions

613...you should be busy enough to stop trying to convince others that YOUR righteousness is equal somehow to Gods
 

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always with the complete missing of the point?

no one entered His rest by observation of signs.

those who rest in Him do so by faith.
what I gather from the Word of God is that He starts EVERYTHING from a very BASIC Beginning, which is generally something physical and tangible for MAN to grasp and understand....because of our own material existence. We learn of the 'spiritual from/by/through our experience with the physical , of which the Sabbath DAY is a perfect Example as in it is already contained the PRESENCE of GOD in HOLINESS.
To reject such simple Beginnings and take a 'flying leap to faith can have disastrous results....we should proceed as GOD directs.
 

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what I gather from the Word of God is that He starts EVERYTHING from a very BASIC Beginning, which is generally something physical and tangible for MAN to grasp and understand....because of our own material existence. We learn of the 'spiritual from/by/through our experience with the physical , of which the Sabbath DAY is a perfect Example as in it is already contained the PRESENCE of GOD in HOLINESS.
To reject such simple Beginnings and take a 'flying leap to faith can have disastrous results....we should proceed as GOD directs.
Your ideas have not been actual for 2000 years.

You are right that God started with something physical, but He already came with the spiritual finish. You are ignoring it and pushing us back to physical beginnings 4000 years ago.
 

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Your ideas have not been actual for 2000 years.

You are right that God started with something physical, but He already came with the spiritual finish. You are ignoring it and pushing us back to physical beginnings 4000 years ago.
It is not a case of pushing anyone BACK because they have NEVER been there (to go back to it) For christians , gentiles and strangers it would only be the BEGINNING (even at this late hour). Yes HE, THE LORD GOD IS the spiritual finish but man has not yet caught on to Him....they have been busy creating and following THEIR OWN imaginations and false christs (playing at being god after the workings of satan who also wanted to be god Isa 14v14) Satan did not succeed of knocking GOD off His throne but he sneaked himself into the world to be it's god 2Cor 4v4. and people have been AND STILL ARE under his influence. They have to LET GO and START AGAIN at this time of REgeneration of the NEW MAN.
It starts with OBEDience to the Word of GOD from the Beginning/Foundation up.
 

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It is not a case of pushing anyone BACK because they have NEVER been there (to go back to it) For christians , gentiles and strangers it would only be the BEGINNING (even at this late hour). Yes HE, THE LORD GOD IS the spiritual finish but man has not yet caught on to Him....they have been busy creating and following THEIR OWN imaginations and false christs (playing at being god after the workings of satan who also wanted to be god Isa 14v14) Satan did not succeed of knocking GOD off His throne but he sneaked himself into the world to be it's god 2Cor 4v4. and people have been AND STILL ARE under his influence. They have to LET GO and START AGAIN at this time of REgeneration of the NEW MAN.
It starts with OBEDience to the Word of GOD from the Beginning/Foundation up.
Obedience yes, but to the actual covenant, not to the past and replaced one.

And the actual covenant is spiritual, which you can see also in that Israel, jerusalem and temple are not serving God for 2,000 years and no new prophets came. The old covenant has been fulfilled in Christ and in Church.
 

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Obedience yes, but to the actual covenant, not to the past and replaced one.

And the actual covenant is spiritual, which you can see also in that Israel, jerusalem and temple are not serving God for 2,000 years and no new prophets came. The old covenant has been fulfilled in Christ and in Church.
As I see it that does not mean we reject ignore or deny the old and just simply step into the new . No way do the churches of this world accept or respect any of God's original foundational Principles...in fact they nail them to the cross as 'finished and done with...while actually they are eternal in that they are spiritual !!! (as you say yourself)
I assume we are speaking of His Commandments and not the 'works contained in ordinances which finished with the levitical Priesthood. JESUS/Yashua indeed offers a New Beginning in a 'better way' than the Old, but it never-the-less is built upon the Righteousness of GOD and never on 'lawlessness, which is the result of transgressing HIS law. 1Joh 3v4.
In the OT LAW was the ruling force....NOW it takes second place to Grace, Mercy and Love....but it (law) is never obsolete or we will fall over (fail) since we require TWO legs on which to stand FIRM = Love and Law ! (just as an example). As I said....we learn by simple human physical experience....fore-runner to the spiritual.
 

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As I see it that does not mean we reject ignore or deny the old and just simply step into the new .
Two various covenants cannot be valid in the same time.

Also, Paul said that the Law was until Christ.

And Christ said that the Law and Prophets were until John the Baptist.

And the author of Hebrews said that the old covenant is obsolete.

To live under two different covenants is not standing on two legs, its more like living according the communist code in a post-communist country.
 

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seriously? now you're pulling Matthew 7?

I think you Sabbath sellers must be thinking you are sitting behind the judgement seat and calling out 'worker of iniquity' or maybe behind the person up for judgement and you are either giving a thumbs up or a thumbs down while Jesus looks to you to decide what to do

no I'm not in the least being sacreligious. you folks really think more highly of yourselves than you ought to



and then we have teaching of demons that the NT talks about...where people think they are on to something...deep revelation and ooo so spooky things that only the elite can understand

I would get chills here, but I live down south

kindly find someone else to indoctrinate

I'm already hard line New Covenant with a real good foundation in the OT
Yes, I can see, given the nature of your posts, how Matt. 7 might offend you.

Thank you for your spirit filled and enlightening reply.
 

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Yes, I can see, given the nature of your posts, how Matt. 7 might offend you.

Thank you for your spirit filled and enlightening reply.
I never did thank you for your pleasant response of mocking a girl, who after a failed suicide attempt , came to Christ.

thanks for showing your true colors.
 

Studyman

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oh this is so typical

'the Jesus of the Bible'...I'm surprised you didn't say 'the God I believe in'

actually God offered His only Son for sinners...so that they are now referred to as Saints

but I understand when someone just cannot let go of the OT, they pray in public and shake their bells and pomegranites a little while looking out the side of their eyes to make sure they are seen

that, is what your lawkeeping is

God entered His rest on the 7th day and nowhere does it say He got busy creating again

don't forget to keep all the ordinances and daily living instructions

613...you should be busy enough to stop trying to convince others that YOUR righteousness is equal somehow to Gods
Jesus said I am to live by "Every Word" which proceeds from God. It is He, through His Word, who warns about "another Jesus" and religious man "creating images of God in the likeness of man", and how religious man "transgress God's Commandments by their own religious traditions". These warnings are written through out the Bible. And I see these things happening right now.

Your anger and nastiness is perfectly in line with how religious man in the Bible deals with Scriptures which bring their religious doctrines into question. In the old days religious men would just stop their ears, rush and stone those who bring these scriptures to bear.. But alas, all they have now are insults, ridicule, and scorn.

It's OK 7. Your reaction is perfectly natural.

My hope is that in the quiet corner of your house, when no one is looking, like Cornelius, you might examine some of the scriptures I posted, and think about "YOUR" reaction to them. Why are you so hateful, what is it about some of God's Word which makes you so angry.

Had the Mainstream Preachers of Christ's time truly Loved the God of the Bible, they would have spent more time examining themselves and less time judging God's Word, IMO.
 
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In the OT LAW was the ruling force....NOW it takes second place to Grace, Mercy and Love....but it (law) is never obsolete
Which is the exact opposite of what the bible both explicitly and implicitly states (e.g., 2 Corinthians 3:7), i.e., the law of Christ obsoletes the law of Moses. But sabbatarians can only see the law of Moses. Moses drives, while Christ takes the back seat.