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here this guy is saying grace could not have saved someone...the scripture says we are saved by grace...the reason those were not saved is because they did not go through faith...those who went back fell from grace....grace is not the problem ...what do you mean..
seriously guy you got some cross wires...no one tries out the gospel men are called ...some are led astray or frustrated by people like you...
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I should have known you would say something like that.
Your no father at all.. to disown your kids because they ate a cookie when you told them now.. wow is you, that your pride is so broken.
ps. you could tell them to stay out of your house all you wanted. THEY ARE STILL YOUR KIDS. YOU CAN NOT UNBORN THEM. they may lose some of the privileges and blessings of living with you (although if your like that, I do not know what that would be) but they are still your children!
Your no father at all.. to disown your kids because they ate a cookie when you told them now.. wow is you, that your pride is so broken.
ps. you could tell them to stay out of your house all you wanted. THEY ARE STILL YOUR KIDS. YOU CAN NOT UNBORN THEM. they may lose some of the privileges and blessings of living with you (although if your like that, I do not know what that would be) but they are still your children!
Nope, your wrong again (imagine that), the devil cannot brake the seal :
1 Corinthians 10:13 (NKJV) No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it.
The devil cannot take you from God, but God will not make you stay.
1 Corinthians 10:13 (NKJV) No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it.
The devil cannot take you from God, but God will not make you stay.
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wow. And you say you actually think things through?
[SUP]13 [/SUP]In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, [SUP]14 [/SUP]who[SUP][a][/SUP] is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.
No conditions here. And I am not more powerful than God either. If I was. Satan could not touch me.
again, do you even think??
[SUP]13 [/SUP]In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, [SUP]14 [/SUP]who[SUP][a][/SUP] is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.
No conditions here. And I am not more powerful than God either. If I was. Satan could not touch me.
again, do you even think??
My My, how vicious when called out on your theology that is full of holes...
explain why Peter warns us that the devil wishes to devour us if we were never saved to begin with?
1 Peter 5:8 (NKJV) Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.
explain why Peter warns us that the devil wishes to devour us if we were never saved to begin with?
1 Peter 5:8 (NKJV) Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.
seals were not only for letters bro ...anything can get a seal....the king could see something somewhere seal it claim it....and when he gets home decides he does not like anymore take of the seal and throw it away...
our seal is until the day of redemption.....the right hand and left hand day....the seal guarantees you stand before God on the day of redemption..it does not guarantee your salvation....walking in Christ guarantees your salvation...
Hebrews 5:9
And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
1 Peter 1:8-10King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
our seal is until the day of redemption.....the right hand and left hand day....the seal guarantees you stand before God on the day of redemption..it does not guarantee your salvation....walking in Christ guarantees your salvation...
Hebrews 5:9
And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
1 Peter 1:8-10King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
I have been saved for a few years and during that time I have never once wished to be unsaved. I have been grateful many times and continue to give God thanks many times each day that I am His. I cannot imagine how an unsaved man can face all that the world brings in tribulation, misery and woes.
When I reflect upon how good the Lord has been to me I can only bow my head and weep over my unworthiness and His great mercy and love. Joy unspeakable and peace that passes understanding.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
When I reflect upon how good the Lord has been to me I can only bow my head and weep over my unworthiness and His great mercy and love. Joy unspeakable and peace that passes understanding.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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of course you fail to see it. Because you do not want to. Like the word grieved, It does not fit into your vocabulary, because it doe snot fit your belief system.
it says,
1. You heard the word of truth the gospel of your salvation.
2. You trusted, or believed in that word.
3. After which you were sealed until the day of redemption.
So where is works.
it says,
1. You heard the word of truth the gospel of your salvation.
2. You trusted, or believed in that word.
3. After which you were sealed until the day of redemption.
So where is works.