4 of Satan’s biggest lies to born-again believers
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BC, do you think God wants me focused on "good works" or "knowing and loving Him"?
Didn't Yeshua/Jesus reprimand the Church at Ephesus because they had lost their "First Love" by being so busy busy with good works? I really don't think God is holding "good works" over us as a measuring stick.
What did Yeshua/Jesus say was the greatest commandment? Wasn't it to LOVE the Lord, our God with all our heart, mind, soul, body, and strength?
Isn't the 2nd greatest commandment to LOVE our neighbors as we love ourselves? Don't ALL the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments?
I choose FIRST LOVE, the good works will follow but, good works are NOT the FOCUS and have NOTHING to do with earning or maintaining salvation.
Salvation is a GIFT. Just receive it and give thanks to God for His Love, Mercy and Grace! Hallelujah!! Amen.
Didn't Yeshua/Jesus reprimand the Church at Ephesus because they had lost their "First Love" by being so busy busy with good works? I really don't think God is holding "good works" over us as a measuring stick.
What did Yeshua/Jesus say was the greatest commandment? Wasn't it to LOVE the Lord, our God with all our heart, mind, soul, body, and strength?
Isn't the 2nd greatest commandment to LOVE our neighbors as we love ourselves? Don't ALL the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments?
I choose FIRST LOVE, the good works will follow but, good works are NOT the FOCUS and have NOTHING to do with earning or maintaining salvation.
Salvation is a GIFT. Just receive it and give thanks to God for His Love, Mercy and Grace! Hallelujah!! Amen.
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Notice that - If we confess our sins, he is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness (vs. 9) is IN CONTRAST TO - If we say that we have no sin, (present tense) we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us (vs. 8) and - If we say that we have not sinned, (past tense) we make him a liar, and his word is not in us (vs. 10).
Some people misunderstand verse 9 to mean that we "must confess each and every sin that we commit as we commit them" (keep a specific inventory) as an "additional requirement" to "remain cleansed" and "if we forget a sin we are toast!"
Believers speak the same/acknowledge/agree with God's perspective about their sins and have a settled recognition and acknowledgment that one is a sinner in need of cleansing and forgiveness.
If you understood it so well, then you would not teach that there are children of God who practice lawlessness and lose their salvation.
*1 John 3:9 - No one who is born of God practices sin..
Some people misunderstand verse 9 to mean that we "must confess each and every sin that we commit as we commit them" (keep a specific inventory) as an "additional requirement" to "remain cleansed" and "if we forget a sin we are toast!"
Believers speak the same/acknowledge/agree with God's perspective about their sins and have a settled recognition and acknowledgment that one is a sinner in need of cleansing and forgiveness.
If you understood it so well, then you would not teach that there are children of God who practice lawlessness and lose their salvation.
*1 John 3:9 - No one who is born of God practices sin..
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Yet another salvation thread that confuses salvation with the walk.
Its not a scorecard.
Its nor a factor.
Its not loosing out to a single sin after walking for years in holiness.
Its not salvation maintenance.
Here it is.
You get born again.
You get the H S like Jesus and Paul did.
Then you walk in power and light,and Holiness.
IF YOU SIN as a born again beliver you get before God in repentance. He cleanses and washes you in the blood.
All this formula stuff of " hey all sins past present and future are forgiven"
Is a mask.
A formula to ease the concience.
1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Incorporate that in the formula
Its not a scorecard.
Its nor a factor.
Its not loosing out to a single sin after walking for years in holiness.
Its not salvation maintenance.
Here it is.
You get born again.
You get the H S like Jesus and Paul did.
Then you walk in power and light,and Holiness.
IF YOU SIN as a born again beliver you get before God in repentance. He cleanses and washes you in the blood.
All this formula stuff of " hey all sins past present and future are forgiven"
Is a mask.
A formula to ease the concience.
1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Incorporate that in the formula
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BC, do you think God wants me focused on "good works" or "knowing and loving Him"?
Didn't Yeshua/Jesus reprimand the Church at Ephesus because they had lost their "First Love" by being so busy busy with good works? I really don't think God is holding "good works" over us as a measuring stick.
What did Yeshua/Jesus say was the greatest commandment? Wasn't it to LOVE the Lord, our God with all our heart, mind, soul, body, and strength?
Isn't the 2nd greatest commandment to LOVE our neighbors as we love ourselves? Don't ALL the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments?
I choose FIRST LOVE, the good works will follow but, good works are NOT the FOCUS and have NOTHING to do with earning or maintaining salvation.
Salvation is a GIFT. Just receive it and give thanks to God for His Love, Mercy and Grace! Hallelujah!! Amen.
Didn't Yeshua/Jesus reprimand the Church at Ephesus because they had lost their "First Love" by being so busy busy with good works? I really don't think God is holding "good works" over us as a measuring stick.
What did Yeshua/Jesus say was the greatest commandment? Wasn't it to LOVE the Lord, our God with all our heart, mind, soul, body, and strength?
Isn't the 2nd greatest commandment to LOVE our neighbors as we love ourselves? Don't ALL the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments?
I choose FIRST LOVE, the good works will follow but, good works are NOT the FOCUS and have NOTHING to do with earning or maintaining salvation.
Salvation is a GIFT. Just receive it and give thanks to God for His Love, Mercy and Grace! Hallelujah!! Amen.
Anyone in minisrty involving "works" rolleyes is in "danger" rolleyes of salvation by works"
How funky is that.
To go through a christian experience,reframing everything into a fear of salvation by works.
I will call this "baked potatoes christianity"
Pull it outta the oven,serve it up. Now we all just look at it and talk about it. But do not touch it. It will destroy the whole deal.
Jesus said go,lay hands on,heal,cast out,get forgiveness,pray,fast,love,witness,tarry,watch, and so on.
Work.
Do.
The disciples "aw man,why cant we just be a forgiven potatoe on the table"
"We could roll of and be lost forever if someone bumped us wrong"
Salvation formulas.
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How about this:
"This is my friend Jesus. We laugh and cry together. We talk and i worship Him and we both enjoy my worship."
I read about John with his head on Jesus breast. So i asked Jesus ,can i do that?
He said "come up here son"
I was like a little doll in his lap.
I put my ear to his breast and could hear his heart beat.
It beat 7 times and stopped. There was a rythm.
Over and over seven times,then stopped. Then restart.
I asked him "why is there that pause over and over"?
He said "anticipation"
I asked "for what"
He said "not what,WHOM"..."I am waiting for my bride. Thats why my word ends in calling my bride"
Thats my witness to the unsaved.
Thats my formula.
"This is my friend Jesus. We laugh and cry together. We talk and i worship Him and we both enjoy my worship."
I read about John with his head on Jesus breast. So i asked Jesus ,can i do that?
He said "come up here son"
I was like a little doll in his lap.
I put my ear to his breast and could hear his heart beat.
It beat 7 times and stopped. There was a rythm.
Over and over seven times,then stopped. Then restart.
I asked him "why is there that pause over and over"?
He said "anticipation"
I asked "for what"
He said "not what,WHOM"..."I am waiting for my bride. Thats why my word ends in calling my bride"
Thats my witness to the unsaved.
Thats my formula.
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AMEN......this site seems to be overrun with salvation losers, working for dogma peddlers and those that have no honesty or integrity when it comes to contextual interpretation and or a simple honest acceptance of the inspired words and their definitions........rather sickening........
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The Earth is not flat. But neither is it a spinning globe where we live on the outside
The Earth is concave, okay??!! It is immovable!! There are no planets, galaxies & universe!!
We walk on the inside of the globe. The rectilineator experiment proves this:
See here :
& here :
Mmmmkay..... TQ & God bless
The Earth is concave, okay??!!
It is immovable!! There are no planets, galaxies & universe!! We walk on the inside of the globe. The rectilineator experiment proves this:
See here :
& here :
Mmmmkay..... TQ & God bless
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Is all sin the same In GODs view?
Is one sin bigger than the other In GODs view or Is one sin bigger than the other sin In mans view?
We all sin If not outwardly we sin Inwardly I mean In what your motivation,thoughts and Intentions are.
So then what could you do to maintain your salvation that GOD would look at with favor since we know GOD Is perfect and those who worship Must worship HIM In Spirit and In TRUTH.
your obedience Is a good thing but what about your motivation,thoughts and Intents,are they always perfect.
answer =No.
Is one sin bigger than the other In GODs view or Is one sin bigger than the other sin In mans view?
We all sin If not outwardly we sin Inwardly I mean In what your motivation,thoughts and Intentions are.
So then what could you do to maintain your salvation that GOD would look at with favor since we know GOD Is perfect and those who worship Must worship HIM In Spirit and In TRUTH.
your obedience Is a good thing but what about your motivation,thoughts and Intents,are they always perfect.
answer =No.
The Earth is not flat. But neither is it a spinning globe where we live on the outside
The Earth is concave, okay??!! It is immovable!! There are no planets, galaxies & universe!!
We walk on the inside of the globe. The rectilineator experiment proves this:
See here :
& here :
Mmmmkay..... TQ & God bless
The Earth is concave, okay??!!
It is immovable!! There are no planets, galaxies & universe!! We walk on the inside of the globe. The rectilineator experiment proves this:
See here :
& here :
Mmmmkay..... TQ & God bless
Arvind Gupta by any chance?
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“For to be carnally-minded is (eternal) death, but to be spiritually-minded
is (eternal) life and peace.” (Romans 8:5-6)
“For IF you live according to the flesh you will die (eternal death); but IF by the Spirit
you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live (eternal life).” (Romans 8:13)
“For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption (eternal death),
but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life.” (Galatians 6:7-8)
Greetings BCsenior,
All of the above that you listed disproves your title above! There are two sides to each of those verses.
As a believer, if you live according to flesh you will die (eternal death)
As a believer, if you are carnally minded, you will die (eternal death)
As a believer, if you sow to the sinful nature, you will reap eternal punishment
None of the scriptures above support that one can never lose salvation.
"But now He has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy, unblemished, and blameless in His presence— if indeed you continue in your faith, established and firm, not moved from the hope of the gospel you heard, which has been proclaimed to every creatured under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have become a servant."
Salvation is dependent upon having faith, from beginning to end. Once a believer stops having faith (goes back to willfully living according to the sinful nature), they are accumulating sin and are on their way to death until they return to faith. Once the person who wanders away from faith returns to faith, then he/she will be saved from death and a multitude of sins will be covered over. Cosider the following:
"My brothers, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring him back, consider this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death and cover over a multitude of sins."
Notice that in that when a believer is in that wandered stated (not having faith) they are on their way to death and are accumulating sin.
The very teaching of once saved always saved is a lie from Satan. For our salvation and eternal life is dependent upon continuing in faith. Once a believer turns back to willfully living according to the sinful nature and goes back into the world, he has unplugged from faith and needs to plug back in.
In this wandered state, the individual is no longer being transformed into the image of Christ and is no longer in the process of being made holy and no longer bearing fruit.
All of the promises are based on those having Faith, which is the catylst.
The above is true if you continue in faith
is (eternal) life and peace.” (Romans 8:5-6)
“For IF you live according to the flesh you will die (eternal death); but IF by the Spirit
you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live (eternal life).” (Romans 8:13)
“For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption (eternal death),
but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life.” (Galatians 6:7-8)
Greetings BCsenior,
All of the above that you listed disproves your title above! There are two sides to each of those verses.
As a believer, if you live according to flesh you will die (eternal death)
As a believer, if you are carnally minded, you will die (eternal death)
As a believer, if you sow to the sinful nature, you will reap eternal punishment
None of the scriptures above support that one can never lose salvation.
"But now He has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy, unblemished, and blameless in His presence— if indeed you continue in your faith, established and firm, not moved from the hope of the gospel you heard, which has been proclaimed to every creatured under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have become a servant."
Salvation is dependent upon having faith, from beginning to end. Once a believer stops having faith (goes back to willfully living according to the sinful nature), they are accumulating sin and are on their way to death until they return to faith. Once the person who wanders away from faith returns to faith, then he/she will be saved from death and a multitude of sins will be covered over. Cosider the following:
"My brothers, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring him back, consider this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death and cover over a multitude of sins."
Notice that in that when a believer is in that wandered stated (not having faith) they are on their way to death and are accumulating sin.
The very teaching of once saved always saved is a lie from Satan. For our salvation and eternal life is dependent upon continuing in faith. Once a believer turns back to willfully living according to the sinful nature and goes back into the world, he has unplugged from faith and needs to plug back in.
In this wandered state, the individual is no longer being transformed into the image of Christ and is no longer in the process of being made holy and no longer bearing fruit.
All of the promises are based on those having Faith, which is the catylst.
The above is true if you continue in faith
The Earth is not flat. But neither is it a spinning globe where we live on the outside
The Earth is concave, okay??!! It is immovable!! There are no planets, galaxies & universe!!
We walk on the inside of the globe. The rectilineator experiment proves this:
See here :
& here :
Mmmmkay..... TQ & God bless
The Earth is concave, okay??!!
It is immovable!! There are no planets, galaxies & universe!! We walk on the inside of the globe. The rectilineator experiment proves this:
See here :
& here :
Mmmmkay..... TQ & God bless
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