6 6 6 the mark of the beast

CelticResurrection · Mar 15, 2012

I understand the mark of the beast to be from the last empire in Daniel2..........

Babylon (not global as we understand global yet described as all the world).
Medo Persia (not global as we understand global)
Greece (not global as we understand global)
Rome (not global as we understand global)

and then who replace Rome over the middle-east and is now reviving (remember John said.......one is and one is not yet<said in the time of Rome)

Islam

and islam is reviving to fulfil its role until His Kingdom comes on earth as it is in the heavens.

Whatever the mark of the beast is 1/ not global but middle-eastern, 2/ linked with Islam who replace Rome as the power of the land of Israel.

Blessings

peterT · Mar 15, 2012

CelticResurrection said:

Daniel2: There are 5 kingdoms not 4.

(1) This image's head [was] of fine gold.

(2) his breast and his arms of silver.

(3) his belly and his thighs of brass.

(4) His legs of iron, 40 And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron:

(5) his feet part of iron and part of clay. 41 And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided 42 And [as] the toes of the feet [were] part of iron, and part of clay, [so] the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.

CelticResurrection said:

What Bible verse is that?

CelticResurrection said:

It sounds global to me “And he causeth all”

Rv13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

virteous_man · Jun 13, 2012

RFID chip barcodes etc. Every barcode in the world has 666 hard wired in. How can you not consider the idea that a chip is gonna be the mark. They are already chipping people everywhere and churches like the 7th day adventist's are even endorseing the vchip or human RFID chip. Scary stuff. Every barcode has 3 guard codes wgich is a 6 so every barcode has a three guard barcode 666

Laodicea · Jun 13, 2012

The mark of the beast is about worship not microchips. Those whn worship the beast receive a mark those who worship God will receive the seal of God. There is a counterfiet system of worship that looks like the true but is not.

loveme1 · Jun 13, 2012

666/vv is a clue, to be part of the world they propose you may for "security" reasons need to pledge an allegiance and receive something maybe a mark to be "allowed" to be part of a "new world order" "peace and stability".... (remember "religion" will be blamed for the worlds problems)

peterT · Jun 14, 2012

Laodicea said:

It’s also about buying and selling don’t you think.

It’s not just about bowing to the image of the beast and worshiping the image of the beast.

But there are 3 other verses about buying and selling.

Got to try and keep it in perspective

Rv13:16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads

17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Rickee · Jun 14, 2012

Very Interesting discussion. I really have not devoted a lot of this study to this subject. There are Several Scenarios
that could happen
I just elect not to get involved in this, but bless all those who do. All I know is the following....666 is The Devils Number, and 777 is God' s Perfect Number. 666 also can be Power and Wealth. A " Beast" is not a Monster, and likely a Head of a Nation. One last thing I he learned is that the Mark this " Beast " will issue only applies if taken on Your RIGHT HAND or FOREHEAD. YES, it could be a Bar Code, or invisible magnetic strip on the back of credit card, etc.

Laodicea · Jun 15, 2012

peterT said:

Worship is mentioned 8 times in Revelation 13 & 14
Revelation 13:4
(4) And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
Revelation 13:8
(8) And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Revelation 13:12
(12) And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
Revelation 13:15
(15) And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
Revelation 14:7
(7) Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
Revelation 14:9
(9) And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
Revelation 14:11
(11) And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Do you think God is trying to tell us something?

iamsoandso · Jun 15, 2012

,,,,,,,,,,,,"and the pin number that you all have in your forehead",the number that is equal to your name,given to you by the world system(their permission to use their finances),,,,,,,,,,"they permit you to make up your own,,let he that hath wisdom calculate it",,,,,,,,,it's such a curious thing to me to see you all on the news taking such great length's to guard the great "mystery number in your forehead" the world calls it "identity theft",that is all the numbers you got "in your forehead",,the hackers are searching for,,,,,,,,,you know all the numbers you have in your forehead since we don't use regular old money anymore,,all the numbers in your forehead that makes you,,you,,,,,,,,,you know the ones that match up with the bar-codes,the ones that you put in when you scan the cards at the gas pump,,,,,,,at the ATM the number you sign your name with to get "good old regular cash",,,,,lets play a game,,,you all enter all of your numbers into the keypad,,,,,s.s.n,credit card numbers,debit card numbers,pass words,,,,bank account number,,,,drivers license number,,,,,,insurance card number,employee number,,,,,,,,,,,,and we got this nifty little machine that will compact them all into a rice size chip called a "r.f.i.d.",,,,,,,and we'll stick it in your arm,,,,,,,,,don't be afraid of it you see,,,,,,,,,,,,,"it represents all the numbers you have in you fore-head right now",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,this was forever the problem with the ones who "see the future",,,,,,they never see the present,,,that's how they missed the Christ when he "walked among them",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Lindsay · Jun 15, 2012

Revelation is the future, not the past.
Ive also seen that number like this 600606.

iamsoandso · Jun 15, 2012

one is not yet come,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"does the country of Israel spend the money of the Muslims or the united states???????whose credit cards do they use???????who's bankcards???????????who's financial systym do you all use???????????,,,,,,,,,,,,,,you see the muslims did not muster up a world trade system of finances that replaced the "old monies system",,,,,,,,,,,you all use united states credit systems,,debit cards ect,,,,,,,,,,,,"dollars",,,,,,

iamsoandso · Jun 15, 2012

and you said future and past,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i said "present",,,,,,,,,,,

frankleespeaking · Jun 15, 2012

unless you care nothing about Hermenuetics the bible clearly states that without this mark you will not be able to buy or sell, (buy or sell in the spirit?) no this is literal verbage.....but please note Its highly likely all transactions will move into micro-chip technology long before the antichrist rises to power, Its more likely that a special mark in line with this technology will be implimented to show who his loyal followers are

also from scripture this great anti-christ figure does not rule the whole world, read Daniel 11 and take notice there are areas that ESCAPE his clutches

distantshores · Jun 15, 2012

I think that the meaning of the mark is obvious; it is what people do and how they think. Most of the book of Revelations is symbolic, so we needn't assume that the mark is physical. Even if it is, it wouldn't necessarily be a microchip, unless one needed to go through a satanic initiation to receive the chip. If it were a physical mark, it could be anything.

I think that the mark on the forehead symbolizes how people think, the word of God in there minds (or the lack of it). The mark on the hand symbolizes how people act. There was a similar mark in Ezekiel 9. God's servants put it on the foreheads of people who lamented the sin that was happening.

Historicists generally interpret 666 as refer to Lateinos, or the Latinization of everything in the church (Latin prayers, and so on), and the mark is worshippng in Latin. Some also think that it refers to the practice of marking slaves with the owner's name or symbol. They interpret the prohibitions against buying and selling as the occasional papal restrictions on buying and selling with 'heretics'.

Many preterists interpret 666 as referring to Nero, and think that the restrictions on buying and selling were those that happened in the Roman Empire against buying and selling with Christians.

Some futurists think that the mark is a computer chip, but even some futurists interpret it symbolically.

Spiritualist interprets of Revelations think that 666 refers generally to man's fallen nature, and that the mark is a symbolic spiritual mark of those who act and think like the world.

In conclusion, some futurists think that the mark is a microchip or something physical, but that is far from certain. Personally, I'll probably be among the first in line to get such a chip. Actually, on second thought, I'll probably wait until they've worked out the bugs.

iamsoandso · Jun 15, 2012

yes there are parts of the world that can buy sell and trade without it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,take you cards debit,ssc. drivers license,,pay card ect. and do not use them for the next three months,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"put me to the test",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"you cannot buy sell nor trade without them",,,,,,,,,,,c.p.s. will come and take your children if you do not use them for three months,,,,,,,,,,they will cut off your lights water and gas,you will buy no food or gas for your car,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ect.,,,,,,stop using them and find out,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"put me to the test",,,,,,,,try it ,"try what i said",,,,,,,,,,,,,

frankleespeaking · Jun 15, 2012

peterT said:

what your missing is they are all CONNECTED! the statue is a representation of the body of Satan, Christians are all a representation of the body of Christ, we are without borders and nationalities, we are of all races. The book of Revelations shows these beast are all joined togather into one conglamoration, (see Revelations 13) "now the beast which I saw was like a LEOPARD his feet were like the feet of a BEAR, and his mouth like the mouth of a LION".............this is the same terrible beast mentioned in Daniel 7, each animal becomes a part of this one giant kingdom, its impossible to be the manmade human empires, because they are all destroyed at the SAME TIME (see Daniel 2:35)

peterT · Jun 15, 2012

Laodicea said:

Revelation 14:9And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

Revelation 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Rv13:16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name

These are not foot notes. There are two different parts to these verses worship and a mark not just worship.

what are you saying ? that there is no mark? And that it has nothing to do with buying and selling.

What better way to get you to bow to his image and worship him than to threaten you with economical poverty and your right to eat and pay your bills, even some Christians would think twice if they were threatened with extreme poverty .

Yes I do think God is trying to tell us something

peterT · Jun 15, 2012

Rickee said:

(1) This image's head [was] of fine gold.

(2) his breast and his arms of silver.

(3) his belly and his thighs of brass.

(4) His legs of iron, 40 And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron:

(5) his feet part of iron and part of clay.41 And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided 42 And [as] the toes of the feet [were] part of iron, and part of clay, [so] the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.

Before the head of gold Empire Babylon in Daniels day was Assyria in bible history, and before that was Egypt in bible history. That makes 7 kingdoms altogether.

Conformed by john when he says

Rv17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, [and] the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

Laodicea · Jun 15, 2012

peterT said:

Revelation 14:9And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

Revelation 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Rv13:16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name

These are not foot notes. There are two different parts to these verses worship and a mark not just worship.

what are you saying ? that there is no mark? And that it has nothing to do with buying and selling.

What better way to get you to bow to his image and worship him than to threaten you with economical poverty and your right to eat and pay your bills, even some Christians would think twice if they were threatened with extreme poverty .

Yes I do think God is trying to tell us something

Those who do not worship the beast or the image will not be able to buy or sell while those who worship the beast will receive the mark of the beast.

pickles · Jun 16, 2012

I know that many see the book of revelations a sybolic only.
Some say this about many writtings in the scriptures.
But from what I have read through out the Bible, is that the scriptures are both symbolic and literal.
I will trust all to God and His understanding given, for one can trust that when needed, God will keep us always in His care.

God bless
pickles

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