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Does God believe and repent for man?:rolleyes:

You obviously don't believe in the bible.
Is salvation given to us because we repent? Does repentance come before regeneration?
 

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Is faith or believing an act of man ? Yes or no..
You know savedbygrace of coarse it is and it is what is all that was left by God is forone to beleive or not, it really is not a work it is I either believe God or I don't. To segregate this as an act of work is ludricrous. The Holy Ghosts job here today is to come to belief and they did beleive at the day of Pentecost and showed this by God's works through them. Just lifting my finger is work
By Faith in the finshed work of Chrsit oincludes the resurrection of Christ the full Gospel, his death took away all sin in his Father's sight and left us to beleif this or not and when we decide to beleif this we by the operation of God the Fsther are raised from being dead in our own flesh to new life in the Spirit of God. and there is a work involved here to work hard to enter his rest, HIS REST, so you can rest
 

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It says not of works, or works of righteousness which we have done. Eph 2:8=9

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Titus 3:5

5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

Also you cannot mix grace with our works Rom 11:5-6

5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
it is no more of works, our works that is. It is God's works throug us that have taken over by faith in God, Faiuth is dead without God works through that person that beleives
Noah by Faith counted as righteousness by beleiving God and so as God told him he did and yet uit had never rained on earth prior to the day of the Ark. Now Noah did as God said inspite of all those around him that scoffed at him, since it never rained yet. It is by Faith in God that produces works of God not self. Faith as shown through out the word always came first then works followed, not man's work, God's
 

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"Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all everywhere should repent." Acts 17:30

I wonder if some denominations teach that repentance is 'works' and therefore they cannot repent of their sins?

It would be dreadful if they do!
the repent is change one's mind from unbelief to belief and God will change you, me and anyone that does believe no ands, ifs or buts here. God will do waht god said he will do, and this is by belief in God nad we will see the full Gospel, the death, the burial,and the resurretion which is waht brings one new life here and now as Christ said this is waht he came to do
John 10:10
The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
and he did this for all that will believe at the cross
 

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Then salvation is up to man, not what Christ did for him, correct ? Yes or NO !
I have read many of your posts, nut yousir speak out of two sides of your mouth, and this is not good, but very crafty Whew WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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the repent is change one's mind from unbelief to belief and God will change you, me and anyone that does believe no ands, ifs or buts here. God will do waht god said he will do, and this is by belief in God nad we will see the full Gospel, the death, the burial,and the resurretion which is waht brings one new life here and now as Christ said this is waht he came to do
John 10:10
The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
and he did this for all that will believe at the cross
The Reformed people say that faith and repentance is works which means they can boast because they have saved themselves. (This is so wrong.) So to get round that they say they were elected at the foundation of the earth.

The result is that because they do not think they need to come to Jesus in faith believing and repent of their sins then they are unsaved and that is so sad.

It is as though Calvin is Satan's chief recruiting officer. :(
 
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I have read many of your posts, nut yousir speak out of two sides of your mouth, and this is not good, but very crafty Whew WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why dont you try answering the question that you quoted ?

Then salvation is up to man, not what Christ did for him, correct ? Yes or NO !
 

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'' He wants us to believe that WE are SINLESS and RIGHTEOUS '' you wrote. This is wrong he wants us to repent and stop sinning like he told the adulteress ''go and sin no more '' The Gospel of Grace has been totally corrupted. There is Grace from God its Jesus Christ who defeated death blots out our sins and released the Holy Spirit. But the Gospel of Grace you and others teach is false and a lie. Your telling people to just believe and Gods Spirit will do it all, when jesus commanded us to enter by the narrow gate. Do you know what the narrow gate is ? a thread was started here you should read it. The Holy Spirit will not be given to anyne unless they show God they deserve it. The Holy Spirit is a precious jewel that only a few find, Jesus Himself said only a few will find life and enter the narrow gate and broad is the way to hellfire
terry the narrow gate is Christ Jesus of the cross, where one first dies with Christ on the cross and then is brought back to life by God the Father as he did his Son at the cross WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! brother please read what happens from belief in the Christ of the cross Romans 6
[h=3]Romans 6:4[/h]King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]4 [/SUP]Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
it is not of anyone's work that we are saved except Christ's work that he did and then yelled out it is finished John 19:30
So what was finished? did he fulfill the Law and Prohets as he claimed he came to do? Matt. 5:17
According to Hebrews 9:15-17 what did his death bring? Is Christ the priest of the Aaronic, Levitical Priesthood? Or is Christ a priest forever in the order of a new Priesthood from a differant tribe?
We are today after the cross in a New Covenant, have been given new laws, the law of love to all God's way not human way. and given a new high Priest that lives forever in the order of Melchisadek and God has remained truthful to his promise to Abraham, by Christ and by Faith as this was counted to Abraham as righteousness and then he did the work a by-product of Faith, and today we first have faith recieve the life offerd to us and we do as led by God through the Holy Ghost as Christ did the same
 
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You know savedbygrace of coarse it is and it is what is all that was left by God is forone to beleive or not, it really is not a work
Then believing is a work if you believe it Is an act of man ? Yes or no..
 

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All that Christ is becomes us. Are you trying to say that God is wrong? And show God? You want me to work for salvation? Salvation is a free gift. Why pay for something you can get for free? And yes, very few will enter the narrow gate. Why? Because many don't believe this gospel. Think about it.
or claim to and take it for granted and just go and continue in sin, thinkiing like the Corinthians did yeap since we are forgiven we can just do wahtever we want to, when true belief changes one to have Mercy as God has had Mercy and is the reason why Paul wrote to the Cor. to show them the error that we were taking advatage of the free gift and God in Hebrews thorugh the writer there
Hebrews 2:3How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;

This is an amazing Grace from God why do any of us ever want to take advantage of it? And why do any of us that see this not to take advantage of turn over to they nust do works then? This wonderful amazing gift is for one to be thankful to appreciate
 

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You dont want to work at all for it, you think God just wants believers,He wants workers and action.
the workers in action is God doing the works through us. the only hard work their is left is work hard to enter God's rest and God is already rested Hebrews 3 and 4 KJV is by belief and other translations have changed by beleif to obedience which is misleading, because it has always been by Faith that does God's type of work as Moses' Mom did when she put him in the water. Or as the Harlot did for God's first Chosen and many others has always been by the leading part Faith in God Hebrews 11 a great revelation about Faith and of coarse Faith is dead without works. Now this leaves one ? Whose works the Spirit of God or our own that are filthy rags
 

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Oh are you preaching God's Word? Can you preach this...
1 John 3:9...Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
And this? 1 John 5:18. We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

Tell me young lady, who appointed you to preach... for as far as I know God is the only one that appoints His preachers... AND THEY ARE ALL MEN! Tim 3, Eph 4, 1 Cor 14, Rom 8, James, 2 Peter 1, etc etc.

My dear if only you did preach what God put in His Word... You do not, that is why I am writing this... You preach what you learned from false teachers... And God gives me command to reproof you with SCRIPTURE... Yet you do not accept the truth. What about this verse.... Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.

Even deacons can only be MEN! Let alone the preacher/teacher/bishop/apostle/pastor and prophets... No my dear you have WAY to much to learn to preach or teach at this stage... SORRY that is the Truth.

You are even warned in Timothy 1 that you might fall in the trap of Satan... Be careful young one, let your father do your teaching, if not he, allow God to teach you...

Not even holy deacons can teach... let alone teenagers that think they are apoointed by God. Make sur EVERY statement you make can be proved in the Bible, and that is a HUGE responsibility... What comes out your mouth can really foul up and make you unholy... It is just not right to think you are an appointed Godly MAN now... Read 2 Peter 1.. the whole chapter... God says much there...

I care for you and you are in a world where God send lamns amongst the wolves... Do not get involved in this young lady... God would NEVER put you in amongst the wolves... Except if you are a young wolverine yourself... Study your Bible... There is much tuth for you to find there,,,, I promise you, God will use you, but not your mouth or words...

Read Eph 4:11 to 13, and let God show you how special you are to him. Timothy and one of God's other prophets was also young... NOT 15 though... but they were VERY SPECIAL.. both of them, and God elected them for many hardship...

I say this with the freatest of love, but I cannot love you more than God and His Word, if you say something against God's will and plan for His children I will reproof you.

Look how you think I judge you, but I judge what you preach and that isNOT GOD'S Word... God said I must put the Spirits to the test... 1 John 4... The spirit you show in your teaching is NOT OF GOD... God will NEVER preach that ALL would sin and continue to sin... NEVER... then God does not have SAVING GRACE... AND HE HAS...
Cobie you are not without Sin, therfore by what you preach that you must be sinless you are DISQUALIFIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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You obviously believe in salvation by works, by what a man does !
NO WE BELIEVE IN GOD'S WORKS BY WHAT HE HAS DONE AND WILL DO IF STARFIELD DOES NOT AGREE WITH ME THEN SHE IS FREE TO SAY SO
 

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I did not say that. Man naturally cannot believe the Gospel or have Gospel faith. For the man by nature cannot please God which Faith does Heb 11:6

However, Paul writes Rom 8:7-8

7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
THIS IS WHY WE ARE TO DIE TO FLESH THUS BE ALIVE IN THE SPIRIT DAILY AS PAUL SAID AND THAT THERE IS NO CONDEMNATION FOR THOSE THAT SEEK AFTER THE SPIRIT HMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE ARE PLEASED BY WHAT GOD HAS DONE AND WILL BY FAITH IN DO THROUGH THOSE THAT BELEIVE
 

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Savedbygrace. I said that for the benifit of all who read our posts... You see there is this illusion people have that God does not save PERFECTLY... Well as I said it is only an illution.. The FACT and TRUTH and GOSPEL is... EVERY SAVED MAN PLEASES GOD!... EVERY ONE!

And only TRUE holiness pleases God. Actually only perfection does, that is why HE MAKES THEM PERFECT TO PLEASE HIM...

Do not be so sensitive, I only use your post and bring the extreme Truth to all...

I see you are on the right track, but the track will NARROW a lot more, and then you also will only have the PERFECT man in your sight...
SO ARE YOU TWO IN COHOOTS HERE?
 
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THIS IS WHY WE ARE TO DIE TO FLESH THUS BE ALIVE IN THE SPIRIT DAILY AS PAUL SAID AND THAT THERE IS NO CONDEMNATION FOR THOSE THAT SEEK AFTER THE SPIRIT HMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE ARE PLEASED BY WHAT GOD HAS DONE AND WILL BY FAITH IN DO THROUGH THOSE THAT BELEIVE

This verse tells us what men in the flesh cannot do. and anyone who is not born of the Spirit is in the flesh, period ! Faith pleases God, and nobody who has not been born again can have Faith in God. Why ?

Rom 8:7-8

7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
 
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NO WE BELIEVE IN GOD'S WORKS BY WHAT HE HAS DONE AND WILL DO IF STARFIELD DOES NOT AGREE WITH ME THEN SHE IS FREE TO SAY SO
If you believe or anyone else for that matter, believe God saves you because you believed, you believe in salvation by works. Believing is an act performed by man !!
 

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The Reformed people say that faith and repentance is works which means they can boast because they have saved themselves. (This is so wrong.) So to get round that they say they were elected at the foundation of the earth.

The result is that because they do not think they need to come to Jesus in faith believing and repent of their sins then they are unsaved and that is so sad.

It is as though Calvin is Satan's chief recruiting officer. :(
THE ENEMY OF THE CROSS IS ALWAYS OUT AND ABOUT SEEKING TO WHOM EVIL MAY DEVOUR, THE SAME TREE OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL MASQUERADING AS IF GOOD AND OR HAVE TO BE IN ORDER TO BE WITH GOD
YES THANK YOU PS. I LOOK BACK TO JOB AND AM IN ALL THANKFULNESS BEING RIGHT NOW HERE HE WAS AND ACCUSED OF, BUT jOB KNEW HIS REDEEMER LIVES. HE WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO AND WE ARE LOOKING BACK TO.