What Laws are still valid to christians

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You ignore the bulk and point of what i say focus on a side note and misrepresent it.

Revelation 15:3, "And they sing the Song of Mosheh, the servant of Yahweh, and the Song of the Lamb, saying: Great and marvelous are Your works, Father Yahweh Almighty! Just and true are Your ways, O King of saints!"

Revelation 12:17, "And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went to make war with those who forsook her seed; her seed being those who keep the Laws of Yahweh, and have the testimony of Yahshua Messiah."

1785. entolé
Definition: an ordinance, injunction, command, law.

Revelation 14:12, "In this manner are the saints purified--by keeping the Laws of Yahweh, in conformity with the faith in Yahshua Messiah."

1785. entolé
Definition: an ordinance, injunction, command, law.

Yes.
I am not used to this but I have to ignore you.

You are a carnal man who have no business in the things of GOD.

That is why people killed the first christians and thought that they were doing GOD service.

Study the Apostles and do what they say.

You do not know what Spirit led is.

Stop being stubborn for you own sake.

You had enough of that.

Trying to sway Gentiles is not an honorable thing to do.

Moses is over.

Jesus is the everlasting one, in every way.
 

Hizikyah

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Yep. It's time to let go of Sinai and move on to the promised land (so to speak)

You have gone around this mountain long enough: turn northward. Deuteronomy 2:3​
Revelation 18:4, "And I heard another voice from heaven, saying: Come out of her, My people, so that you do not partake in her sins, and so that you do not receive of her plagues."

Do you reject what Yahweh calls His mark and willingly and joyfully accept Babylonian rituals?

Exodus 13:9, "And it shall be as a *sign to you upon your hand and as a memorial between your eyes, that Yahweh's Law shall be in your mouth; for with a strong hand Yahweh has brought you out of Egypt."

Ezekiel 20:12, "Moreover, I also gave them My Sabbaths, to be a *sign between Me and them, that they might know that I am Yahweh Who sanctifies them."

*Sign is Word #226, Hebrew Dictionary, Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, meaning mark, token, sign, consent, flag, evidence of consent.

"no that says sign..."

translators translated it sign, IT MEANS MARK and it is on the hand and head... maybe you want a mark from someone else on your hand and head, one who changes times and Laws, also know as Mystery Babylon, who sits on 7 hills and is decked in gold and jewls and purple and scarlet.

Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against Yahweh, and will wear out; mentally attack to cause to fall away, the saints of Yahweh, and think to change times and Laws; and they will be given into his hand until a time, and times, and the dividing of time."

Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."

The words of the Messiah state it plainly, what excuse will there be?
 
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Revelation 18:4, "And I heard another voice from heaven, saying: Come out of her, My people, so that you do not partake in her sins, and so that you do not receive of her plagues."

Do you reject what Yahweh calls His mark and willingly and joyfully accept Babylonian rituals?

Exodus 13:9, "And it shall be as a *sign to you upon your hand and as a memorial between your eyes, that Yahweh's Law shall be in your mouth; for with a strong hand Yahweh has brought you out of Egypt."

Ezekiel 20:12, "Moreover, I also gave them My Sabbaths, to be a *sign between Me and them, that they might know that I am Yahweh Who sanctifies them."

*Sign is Word #226, Hebrew Dictionary, Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, meaning mark, token, sign, consent, flag, evidence of consent.

"no that says sign..."

translators translated it sign, IT MEANS MARK and it is on the hand and head... maybe you want a mark from someone else on your hand and head, one who changes times and Laws, also know as Mystery Babylon, who sits on 7 hills and is decked in gold and jewls and purple and scarlet.

Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against Yahweh, and will wear out; mentally attack to cause to fall away, the saints of Yahweh, and think to change times and Laws; and they will be given into his hand until a time, and times, and the dividing of time."

Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."

The words of the Messiah state it plainly, what excuse will there be?
You already blew that opportunity.

We are on equal footing and you must return to the Mighty God and call on him in baptism.

GOD is upholding his Son whom he said is righteous.
 

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You already blew that opportunity.

We are on equal footing and you must return to the Mighty God and call on him in baptism.

GOD is upholding his Son whom he said is righteous.
Revelation 14:12, "In this manner are the saints purified--by keeping the Laws of Yahweh, in conformity with the faith in Yahshua Messiah."
 
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And may he take you by the hand as promised.
Do you see that after baptism Jesus was LED by the Spirit.?
That is the guaranteed win for us who returned/ come to the Great One.

He made us to start and now putting us back to image.
An entirely new creation. The law of Moses is for those made in the image of the first Adam; the spirit is for those made in the image of the last Adam.
 
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Revelation 14:12, "In this manner are the saints purified--by keeping the Laws of Yahweh, in conformity with the faith in Yahshua Messiah."
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You will frustrate yourself.
The N.T. is speaking of Christiann laws.

As Paul has said;' He who wants to be ignorant let him be ignorant..

You know my advice as a fellow human.

We are into spiritual things now.
 
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You will frustrate yourself.
The N.T. is speaking of Christiann laws.

As Paul has said;' He who wants to be ignorant let him be ignorant..

You know my advice as a fellow human.

We are into spiritual things now.
Isaiah 8

16 Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.
17 And I will wait upon the Lord, that hideth his face from the house of Jacob, and I will look for him.
18 Behold, I and the children whom the Lord hath given me are for signs and for wonders in Israel from the Lord of hosts, which dwelleth in mount Zion.
19 And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead?
20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
 
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You will frustrate yourself.
The N.T. is speaking of Christiann laws.

As Paul has said;' He who wants to be ignorant let him be ignorant..

You know my advice as a fellow human.

We are into spiritual things now.
The translation he is using was made by The House of Yahweh cult.
 
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Ephesians 2:15-16

I want to point out that the words that are in italics are ADDED:

Ephesians 2:15-16, (NKJV), "having abolished in His flesh the nmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace, and that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity. "

Not only odes the next verse tell us what was abolished, but when you remove the ADDED words the meaning changes.

Ephesians 2:15-16, "Abolishing the enmity the Law, the Commandments, and the Ordinances, through His own flesh, in order to create in Himself one new man from the two; making peace, That would reconcile both in one body to Yahweh through the sacrifice--having killed the enmity through Himself."
You keep going 'round and 'round the same bush.

This was covered with you way back in posts #377, #419, #451, #1078, #1096 (here), #1839 (here).
 
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You will frustrate yourself.
The N.T. is speaking of Christiann laws.

As Paul has said;' He who wants to be ignorant let him be ignorant..

You know my advice as a fellow human.

We are into spiritual things now.
where in the new testament does it say that having sex with animals is wrong ?
 

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You will frustrate yourself.
The N.T. is speaking of Christiann laws.

As Paul has said;' He who wants to be ignorant let him be ignorant..

You know my advice as a fellow human.

We are into spiritual things now.
Right back at you.

So the Law will never pass means the Law will pass very soon?

Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."

Mattithyah 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your hneighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."

Romans 3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law!"

the word Law is: 3551. nomos
nomos: that which is assigned, hence usage, law
Original Word: νόμος, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: nomos
Phonetic Spelling: (nom'-os)
Short Definition: a law, the Mosaic Law
Definition: usage, custom, law; in NT: of law in general, plur: of divine laws; of a force or influence impelling to action; of the Mosaic law; meton: of the books which contain the law, the Pentateuch, the Old Testament scriptures in general.

We are into spiritual things now.
Romans 7:14, "For we know that the Law is spiritual; but I was carnal, sold into the power of sin."

Romans 8:6-8, "For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against; (bitterly opposed to, Yahweh;) for it his not subject to the Law of Yahweh, nor indeed can be. So then, those who are of the flesh cannot please Yahweh."

Mattithyah 7:23, "But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity."

iniquity is:#0458 ἀνομία anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459

Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the condition of without law
1a) because ignorant of it
1b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness
 
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where in the new testament does it say that having sex with animals is wrong ?
I will have to check that BUT remember that anything that is not GOOD is not Christian.
The Spirit is amazing and the rel. with GOD a nd CHrist stay intact.
 

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You keep going 'round and 'round the same bush.

This was covered with you way back in posts #377, #419, #451, #1078, #1096 (here), #1839 (here).
Dont take this the wrong way because there are some things we agree on, like Yahshua is the Messiah, but i know no other way to say this but to just say it:

Your misunderstanding did not lead me away from the truth.

"having killed the enmity through Himself"

do not murder

do not have sex with the same swx

help your brother when he is in need

dont be racist (Lev 19:34)

are not enmity...

the enmity was abolished, the fleshly opposition to holy living was abolished.

I know this to be true because when I accepted the Messiah in my heart and not in word I CHANGED.
 
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The holy spirit witnesses that it is wrong.

hmmm the Holy Spirit witness you say that it is wrong


lets refresh your memory ok

Leviticus 18

22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
23 Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.
 

Hizikyah

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Originally Posted by Isdaniel

where in the new testament does it say that having sex with animals is wrong ?


The holy spirit witnesses that it is wrong.
So does the Law of Yahweh

I wonder if they both say the EXACT SAME THING?

Romans 7:14, "For we know that the Law is spiritual; but I was carnal, sold into the power of sin."

Isayah 59:21, "As for Me, this is My covenant with them, says Yahweh: My Spirit which is upon you, namely My Instructions which I have put in your mouth; they will not depart from your mouth, nor from the mouth of your seed, nor from the mouth of your seed's seed, says Yahweh: from this time and forevermore."

Yahchanan 6:63, "It is the Spirit that gives life; the flesh is useless. The Instructions that I speak to you, they are Spirit, and they are life everlasting."
 
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I will have to check that BUT remember that anything that is not GOOD is not Christian.
The Spirit is amazing and the rel. with GOD a nd CHrist stay intact.
Is it lawful for a husband to have sex with his wife when she is going through her periods ?
 
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Actually the word translated "NEW" is the same word used for "new moon" when in actual fact it is not a new moon but the same moon every 30 days...
This has been covered with you before, and you are knowingly misrepresenting the Greek.

The word Jesus used of the "new" covenant in Mt 26:28 and Lk 22:20 is kainos, which means newly made, never before existing.

The Greek word for "renewed" is ananeoomai, which is to be renewed.

The NT was not written in Hebrew, it was written in Greek.
 

Hizikyah

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Not for you it isn't because your conscience is weak.
Come on dont attack him like that.

and a strong consciousness dosent mean one has to be sociopath, just not feeling guilty is not a right thing.

1 Timothy 4:1-2, "Now the Spirit speaks very plainly, that in the latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of demons Speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their conscience seared as with a hot iron."