What Laws are still valid to christians

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Is it lawful for a husband to have sex with his wife when she is going through her periods ?
I think I read no.

HeRose is right about the Holy Spirit.

In Rom. it talks about being 'dead/ desensitized to sin.

That is the answer but yet other things are written.

Jesus will give you the new nature that is weakened toward sin BUT STRONG for all else.
 
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I think I read no.

HeRose is right about the Holy Spirit.

In Rom. it talks about being 'dead/ desensitized to sin.

That is the answer but yet other things are written.

Jesus will give you the new nature that is weakened toward sin BUT STRONG for all else.

wher did you read no
 
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I think I read no.

HeRose is right about the Holy Spirit.

In Rom. it talks about being 'dead/ desensitized to sin.

That is the answer but yet other things are written.

Jesus will give you the new nature that is weakened toward sin BUT STRONG for all else.
The Holy Spirt does what is written in God word The both , that is the Spirit and the Word are divinly conjucnted they canot opereate without each other one must have both to be saved
 
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Hizikyah

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This has been covered with you before, and you are knowingly misrepresenting the Greek.

The word Jesus used of the "new" covenant in Mt 26:28 and Lk 22:20 is kainos, which means newly made, never before existing.

The Greek word for "renewed" is ananeoomai, which is to be renewed.

The NT was not written in Hebrew, it was written in Greek.
again I will not give in to your misunderstanding.

Did a covenant ever exist with Yahshuas blood before? Not until He was sacrificed. The word of Yahweh is explicit in these matters, I know you have verses that you think make it explicit in your view as I do mine. however your Lawless doctrine if that is what your presume as "new" is false.

The priesthood stands, but transferred to Yahshua, sacrifice stands as we have to accept the true Sacrifice, Yahshua the Messiah (dont try to go animals on me here that would be abomination), the Laws concering loving Yahweh stand, the Laws concering loving your neighbor stand, and all the moral Law stand.

If you agree with these principles I see no difference in content just a difference in linguistics.
 
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Did Holy Spirt does whatis written in God word The both , that is the Spirit and the Word are divinly conjucnted they canot opereate without each other one must have both to be saved
The Word is the Wod from Jesus and the Apostles... Faith love and good deeds.

That is why it is called unspeakable.

You relate to Moses. Hear Moses.

Num.11
[29] And Moses said unto him, Enviest thou for my sake?
would God that all the LORD's people were prophets,
and that the LORD would >>> put his spirit <<< upon them!
 
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The Word is the Wod from Jesus and the Apostles... Faith love and good deeds.

That is why it is called unspeakable.

You relate to Moses. Hear Moses.

Num.11
[29] And Moses said unto him, Enviest thou for my sake?
would God that all the LORD's people were prophets,
and that the LORD would >>> put his spirit <<< upon them!
How conveniently you quote Moses I thought that we must forget him hmmmmmmmm
 
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again I will not give in to your misunderstanding.

Did a covenant ever exist with Yahshuas blood before? Not until He was sacrificed. The word of Yahweh is explicit in these matters, I know you have verses that you think make it explicit in your view as I do mine. however your Lawless doctrine if that is what your presume as "new" is false.

The priesthood stands, but transferred to Yahshua, sacrifice stands as we have to accept the true Sacrifice, Yahshua the Messiah (dont try to go animals on me here that would be abomination), the Laws concering loving Yahweh stand, the Laws concering loving your neighbor stand, and all the moral Law stand.

If you agree with these principles I see no difference in content just a difference in linguistics.
You need to repent and be baptized.

Not my rules.

Try to decieve another Gentile.

You have no understanding of where GOD is and what he is doing.

You will make yourself sick.

When will you understand that your own leaders decieved the people?
 
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The Word is the Wod from Jesus and the Apostles... Faith love and good deeds.

That is why it is called unspeakable.

You relate to Moses. Hear Moses.

Num.11
[29] And Moses said unto him, Enviest thou for my sake?
would God that all the LORD's people were prophets,
and that the LORD would >>> put his spirit <<< upon them!
You should not want this because Moses said it

Deuteronomy 28

King James Version (KJV)

1 And it shall come to pass, if thou shalt hearken diligently unto the voice of theLord thy God, to observe and to do all his commandments which I command thee this day, that the Lord thy God will set thee on high above all nations of the earth:
2 And all these blessings shall come on thee, and overtake thee, if thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the Lord thy God.
3 Blessed shalt thou be in the city, and blessed shalt thou be in the field.
4 Blessed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy ground, and the fruit of thy cattle, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep.
5 Blessed shall be thy basket and thy store.
6 Blessed shalt thou be when thou comest in, and blessed shalt thou be when thou goest out.
 
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"Christ is the end of the law for righteousness"

This poor use of translating Greek has led many astray.


"Messiah is the ultimate result of the Law unto righteousness"
This is from the Greek NT translated into Hebrew.

You know the NT was written in Greek, and the poor translation is to the Hebrew.

You are misrepresenting the meaning of the NT Greek language again.
 
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Come on dont attack him like that.

and a strong consciousness dosent mean one has to be sociopath, just not feeling guilty is not a right thing.
Those still looking to the law have a weak conscience IMO because they think they have been judged guilty for breaking the law, and have received a pardon for their crime. They are thus left with a guilty conscience.

Those looking solely to Christ for justification have been acquitted of all charges against them for violating the law. Thus their conscience is clean from guiltiness.
 
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The Word is the Wod from Jesus and the Apostles... Faith love and good deeds.

That is why it is called unspeakable.

You relate to Moses. Hear Moses.

Num.11
[29] And Moses said unto him, Enviest thou for my sake?
would God that all the LORD's people were prophets,
and that the LORD would >>> put his spirit <<< upon them!

Do these laws still apply why or Why not ? remeber it is in the old

Leviticus 20

16 And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.


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And if a man shall take his sister, his father's daughter, or his mother's daughter, and see her nakedness, and she see his nakedness; it is a wicked thing; and they shall be cut off in the sight of their people: he hath uncovered his sister's nakedness; he shall bear his iniquity.



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And if a man shall lie with a woman having her sickness, and shall uncover her nakedness; he hath discovered her fountain, and she hath uncovered the fountain of her blood: and both of them shall be cut off from among their people.
 
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How conveniently you quote Moses I thought that we must forget him hmmmmmmmm
Do you think that I am trying to prejudice you?

You are familiar with Moses. I could have used Peter.

If you are trying to find liars, yopu may be tricked because the truthe may sound like alie to you.

GOD is against his 'enemies' who refuse to obey...I' m ok with it. Thank him and his Son
 
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Do these laws still apply why or Why not ? remeber it is in the old

Leviticus 20

16 And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.


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And if a man shall take his sister, his father's daughter, or his mother's daughter, and see her nakedness, and she see his nakedness; it is a wicked thing; and they shall be cut off in the sight of their people: he hath uncovered his sister's nakedness; he shall bear his iniquity.



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And if a man shall lie with a woman having her sickness, and shall uncover her nakedness; he hath discovered her fountain, and she hath uncovered the fountain of her blood: and both of them shall be cut off from among their people.
REMEMBER: If it is good do it.

I think that youbelieve that GOD has to give millions of laws.

He can give general principles.

Think about how you might teach your children.

You should try to be a serious inquirer.

You do not have to be gullible.

How would you attend a Sabbath in the Temple today.
 
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Do you think that I am trying to prejudice you?

You are familiar with Moses. I could have used Peter.

If you are trying to find liars, yopu may be tricked because the truthe may sound like alie to you.

GOD is against his 'enemies' who refuse to obey...I' m ok with it. Thank him and his Son

Truly thou sayesth He is against His emies that teach persons to break His laws


Matthew 5
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
 
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REMEMBER: If it is good do it.

I think that youbelieve that GOD has to give millions of laws.

He can give general principles.

Think about how you might teach your children.

You should try to be a serious inquirer.

You do not have to be gullible.

How would you attend a Sabbath in the Temple today.

i am not fooled by smooth words the truth is the truth and we can do nothing against the truth but for the truth


Do you think God will have laws in His kingdom where there will be no more sin ?.Why or Why not
 
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Truly thou sayesth He is against His emies that teach persons to break His laws


Matthew 5
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Do you really read like that... continue reading.

You did not hear the first rules.

Go to the Acts and read about the Gospel after his death for sins that is where the Gospel is preached.
 

Hizikyah

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Those still looking to the law have a weak conscience IMO because they think they have been judged guilty for breaking the law, and have received a pardon for their crime. They are thus left with a guilty conscience.

Those looking solely to Christ for justification have been acquitted of all charges against them for violating the law. Thus their conscience is clean from guiltiness.
HeRose, have your ever considered that some follow Yahweh's Law because they love Him and they want to do what is right in his eyes? I cant speak for anyone else, but I myself do feel terrible when I do something against Yahweh's Law not because i dont feel there is remission of sin but because I dont want to trample that mercy and I dont want to grieve Yahweh or Yahshua.

I fear becoming reprobate to the point where I would do a evil act and say no problem Jesus gots me. That is called insulting the Spirit of mercy IMO and Spiritually speaking. Im not saysing you do this but I am saying 100% your doctrine *allows* for this doctrine to be understood as "grace" or IMO more accurately "grace perversion." Now if this falsehood is applied is on a person to person basis I guess depending on their own consciousness/lack of consciousness and how in touch they really are with Yahweh's Spirit. (Side note: I have a hard time believing people that follow falsehoods introduced by Constantine are following Yahweh's Spirit, well obviously they are not.)

Shaul deals with this exact thought in Romans (also written in Hebrews by whoever wrote it)

Romans 2:4-11, “Or do you despise the riches of His kindness, forbearance, and longsuffering; not realizing that Yahweh’s kindness is meant to lead you to repentance? But according to your stubborn and impenitent mind you are storing up wrath for yourself for the day of Yahweh’s wrath, when the righteous judgment of Yahweh will be revealed; when He will reward each one according to his works: to the ones on the one hand, who, by patient persistence in doing righteousness, seek for glory, honor and immortality, He will give eternal life. But to the ones on the other hand, who are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, He will give indignation and wrath.” Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man who does evil: to the Yahdai(Jew) first, and also to the Greek (Gentile) But glory, honor, and peace to every man who works righteousness: to the Yahdai first, and also to the Greek. For there is no respect of persons with Yahweh.”
 
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i am not fooled by smooth words the truth is the truth and we can do nothing against the truth but for the truth


Do you think God will have laws in His kingdom where there will be no more sin ?.Why or Why not
What do you suppose that I am getting by fooling you.

Theologians are successful at that and get paid for it.

Law is for the lawless.

Maybe you are trying to find a way around GOD.

That is impossible an no one can help you.
 
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What do you suppose that I am getting by fooling you.

Theologians are successful at that and get paid for it.

Law is for the lawless.

Maybe you are trying to find a way around GOD.

That is impossible an no one can help you.

i never said you are fooling me for i know what you say is not truth . i speak generally but hey all of us have to pay for our works


Hope you can tell me what is righteouness ?
 
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never said you are fooling me for i know what you say is not truth .
i speak generally but hey all of us have to pay for our works
Hope you can tell me what is righteouness ?
Look brother above you say that "i know what you say is not truth "

So you really think that I wan to lie to you.

People have motives my own is to help.

Some people seem ready oters are everywhere.

So wht do you tyhink that I am lying?