A Closer Look at Ephesians 1:13
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Its fine to water baptize, but when you teach that you must be water baptized, as a part of God's redemption, then you are teaching the heresy of "baptismal regeneration".
If you are born again, then when you get to heaven, Find JESUS and the Dying Thief and explain to them both, that they got it wrong, and made a mistake, as the dying thief is not supposed to be in Heaven, according to your Church's doctrine.....as he was not water baptized ..
If you are born again, then when you get to heaven, Find JESUS and the Dying Thief and explain to them both, that they got it wrong, and made a mistake, as the dying thief is not supposed to be in Heaven, according to your Church's doctrine.....as he was not water baptized ..
It is obvious that a person must believe the gospel message otherwise why bother to be obedient to it's associated commands to repent and be baptized.
Paul asked a curious question if in fact believing prompts the immediate rebirth, "Have you received the Holy Ghost SINCE you believed?" (Acts 19:1-6) Why not just ask, "Are you guys believers?" His question speaks to the truth the receiving the Holy Ghost does not occur the moment a person believes. Paul goes on to tell the group that John's baptism was not sufficient they had to be baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. They obey. And afterward they receive the Holy Ghost.
Paul asked a curious question if in fact believing prompts the immediate rebirth, "Have you received the Holy Ghost SINCE you believed?" (Acts 19:1-6) Why not just ask, "Are you guys believers?" His question speaks to the truth the receiving the Holy Ghost does not occur the moment a person believes. Paul goes on to tell the group that John's baptism was not sufficient they had to be baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. They obey. And afterward they receive the Holy Ghost.
The word says it is to be done for the remission of sin. (Acts 2:38, 22-16)
Also, do you realize what God said about those who were not circumcised in accordance with His OT mandate?
Gen 17:14
And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.
Also, do you realize what God said about those who were not circumcised in accordance with His OT mandate?
Gen 17:14
And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.
You've done nothing like you presume. I've shown from Scripture that water baptism has NO part in salvation at all.
It's a symbol of our being identified with Christ in His death, burial and resurrection.
I quoted from Acts 11, which proves that salvation occurred BEFORE any water baptism.
Paul made the point that he was to preach the gospel, NOT baptize people. If that doesn't convince you of truth, nothing will.
I think we're done here.
It's a symbol of our being identified with Christ in His death, burial and resurrection.
I quoted from Acts 11, which proves that salvation occurred BEFORE any water baptism.
Paul made the point that he was to preach the gospel, NOT baptize people. If that doesn't convince you of truth, nothing will.
I think we're done here.
You again are trying to reinvent the Gospel as "get in the water and be saved".
So, the water cults that you are representing, reject the Grace of God, and try to subvert the Blood of Jesus, with the self effort of water baptism.
So, when you teach that something you DO, ...........water baptism, is both the reason you are born again, and WHY, then you have just preached "another Gospel:, and when you do that, you become this.
Galatians 1:8
So, the water cults that you are representing, reject the Grace of God, and try to subvert the Blood of Jesus, with the self effort of water baptism.
So, when you teach that something you DO, ...........water baptism, is both the reason you are born again, and WHY, then you have just preached "another Gospel:, and when you do that, you become this.
Galatians 1:8
You have been shown scripture that speaks to the need for everyone to repent, be water baptized and receive the Holy Ghost. These requirements were never rescinded. Many preach/teach otherwise but I find that is not the case in scripture.
Yes, I am born again.
As to the thief on the cross died prior to Jesus' death, burial and resurrection. He was not responsible to obey the NT mandates. They began in Jerusalem on the Day of Pentecost and afterward would be required of all nations. This according to Jesus. (Luke 24:47)
Yes, I am born again.
As to the thief on the cross died prior to Jesus' death, burial and resurrection. He was not responsible to obey the NT mandates. They began in Jerusalem on the Day of Pentecost and afterward would be required of all nations. This according to Jesus. (Luke 24:47)
No, i have been show your theology that came from your Church, that teaches the Holy Ghost and Water Baptism, are identical situations.
You have been shown that REPENTANCE, is not "confessing sin" "in the water".
And you have been shown that the heresy of "baptismal regeneration" is created by the Catholic Water Cult and infected many sub-denominations.
You have been shown that REPENTANCE, is not "confessing sin" "in the water".
And you have been shown that the heresy of "baptismal regeneration" is created by the Catholic Water Cult and infected many sub-denominations.
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Yes, the Catholic Water Cult.......or the "cult of Mary", began this false gospel of "water saves", long ago.
What is the Tragedy? Its that many thousands went to hell today and tomorrow, all water baptized.
And why did the water baptized go to hell?
Because Jesus said......'you must be born again".......and WATER can't cause that, yet CULTS teach that it does and this has sent millions to hell, because they believed it.
What is the Tragedy? Its that many thousands went to hell today and tomorrow, all water baptized.
And why did the water baptized go to hell?
Because Jesus said......'you must be born again".......and WATER can't cause that, yet CULTS teach that it does and this has sent millions to hell, because they believed it.
God made the rules.
Except a man be born again he cannot SEE the kingdom of God (John 3:3)
Except a man be born of water and Spirit he cannot ENTER the kingdom of God. (John 3:5)
1 Cor 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Except a man be born again he cannot SEE the kingdom of God (John 3:3)
Except a man be born of water and Spirit he cannot ENTER the kingdom of God. (John 3:5)
1 Cor 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
So no water is required?
That is true.
And what you wrote is true
The person repents from Unbelief, by BELIEVING In Jesus.
And the reason that God as Christ on the Cross is the only way to go to heaven, is because its only God's Blood that is THE eternal sacrifice for sin of the world.
See, God's Blood is forgiveness for the entire world's sin.........>"for God so loved THE WORLD".......you see, .... THat He gave Jesus...
However, that blood sacrifice and death of Jesus, this REDEMPTION..... is only applied to a person when Faith in Christ is Given to God.
That is true.
And what you wrote is true
The person repents from Unbelief, by BELIEVING In Jesus.
And the reason that God as Christ on the Cross is the only way to go to heaven, is because its only God's Blood that is THE eternal sacrifice for sin of the world.
See, God's Blood is forgiveness for the entire world's sin.........>"for God so loved THE WORLD".......you see, .... THat He gave Jesus...
However, that blood sacrifice and death of Jesus, this REDEMPTION..... is only applied to a person when Faith in Christ is Given to God.
Do you realize that it is through Jesus' name that one's sins are remitted? When does that occur according to the word?
Hint:
Acts 10:43-48
43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord.
Many are oblivious to the fact that forerunners of the Catholic Church distorted the way in which water baptism is to be performed. They removed the all powerful name of the Lord Jesus in 325 A.D. Many churches today follow a manmade tradition rather than what is presented in the word.
Acts 4:12
12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Hint:
Acts 10:43-48
43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord.
Many are oblivious to the fact that forerunners of the Catholic Church distorted the way in which water baptism is to be performed. They removed the all powerful name of the Lord Jesus in 325 A.D. Many churches today follow a manmade tradition rather than what is presented in the word.
Acts 4:12
12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
