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DorothyMae

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JaumeJ said:
Perhaps when forming your questions eternal truth should be in mind. If it is simply about anything other than the Gospel, it is not necessarily eternal truth, just curiosity about others and this age.
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Good point but I’m not curious about this age or others except in that I desire to understand men. I mostly want to know God and in that pursuit have asked Him question since I was 20. He has answered most of them to date and given understanding. Seldom from others except those who know God better than I do which includes the Bible of course.

I hunger to understand and am prepared to alter my thinking and choices according to the new understanding.
 
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Guojing

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God not being able to see them? Loosely @Guojing I could see how he would no longer see them alive spiritually, but this would still interact with omniscience and sovereignty, so that would have to be factored rather clearly to say I "agree" with you. Let's not go too far off topic but perhaps you have a different wording of the same thing?

Not to say he could not see them (per se)...but that he could not see their life.

If you want to get esoteric, the words themselves could potentially have been a lament after a fashion.

Where have you gone? You are right in front of me but I cannot find you! Did you eat what I told you not to eat?


I rarely take liberties like that...it made me a bit emotional doing so, and I have felt the fall deeply more than once. It is rather heartbreaking.

Fortunately there is a "however"...John 3:16. :)
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My point I was making in that post was this. Like many forum discussions, people often zoom in on the points they find objectionable and ignore the main theme.

Why is this important for us? When we accept Christ work on the cross for us, our spirit is now reborn into Christ divine nature. No sin that we do in our body can ever cause that spirit to die again.

As far as God is concerned, our spirit is perfect, just like Christ is.
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For me, there is no need to go back to John 3:16 since Paul explained very well in Romans 8 the implication of that, there is now no condemnation.

From God's perspective, you are the righteousness of God in Christ. Whenever you fall into acts of sin, that sin is on your body but your spirit remains untainted. God cannot see sin in your spirit. He deliberately ordained it that way, his omniscience cannot see past the blood of Christ that is in your spirit.

It was modeled in the OT, when the blood of the lamb was sprinkled on the mercy seat of the ark, and the tablets of the 10 commandments, which signified man's rebellion against God, is placed under that seat.

Once you understand this, it will not make you go ahead and remain in that sin, its the power to break sin in your flesh.
 
jackrosie

jackrosie

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God helps us overcome our flesh.....I always go to God in prayer......we are led by the Holy Spirit,who works in and through us...what is the purpose of becoming born again?........

You do nothing in your own strength..you will fail miserably.......we follow God...end of...nothing more to add.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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JaumeJ said:
Perhaps when forming your questions eternal truth should be in mind. If it is simply about anything other than the Gospel, it is not necessarily eternal truth, just curiosity about others and this age.
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So what she asked (which is in the word) is not a spiritual truth?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Anyone who has been in a body knows the peace that comes with that, that’s why even non believers love to come in the blessings is unmatched anywhere

if yu take a person and cast him into the world. That peace is removed. And you know it. I was out in thenworld for 5 years. At the end I was contemplating suicide because thenworld had nothing to offer. It was at that time God called me home, and although i was afraid, I came back,

to me, this is what is being spoke of.l remove the freedom and the peace cast him to satan, so in the end, his spirit will be rescued when he returns,

I believe we see in 1 cor 2. The person repented and was back in church, at least this is what many believe
 
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jackrosie

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eternally-gratefull said:
Anyone who has been in a body knows the peace that comes with that, that’s why even non believers love to come in the blessings is unmatched anywhere

if yu take a person and cast him into the world. That peace is removed. And you know it. I was out in thenworld for 5 years. At the end I was contemplating suicide because thenworld had nothing to offer. It was at that time God called me home, and although i was afraid, I came back,

to me, this is what is being spoke of.l remove the freedom and the peace cast him to satan, so in the end, his spirit will be rescued when he returns,

I believe we see in 1 cor 2. The person repented and was back in church, at least this is what many believe
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We’re you in the world as a born again?...did you wander off?
 
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jackrosie said:
I have many questions to ask and thought this a good place to start asking.

First question...what does handing someone over for the destruction of their flesh mean?...thank you.
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It is handing them over to the worldly authorities to face conviction and the death penalty..
 
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jackrosie said:
Did we inherit sin from Adam and Eve?

Also when they sinned,they were naked....because they were uncovered?.they tried hiding from God?...God knew straight away what they had done?
And he was not pleased.
Their eyes were opened?
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We inherited the knowledge of good and evil.. And like Adam and Eve we cannot handle that knowledge without transgressing the rightful will of God..
 
jackrosie

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After 28yrs of being born again......I still cry over the death of Jesus,..it’s not as painful..but I still cry.....why?
 
PennEd

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jackrosie said:
After 28yrs of being born again......I still cry over the death of Jesus,..it’s not as painful..but I still cry.....why?
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Because you realize it should be you up on that cross, and then down below.
 
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DorothyMae

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Guojing said:
My point I was making in that post was this. Like many forum discussions, people often zoom in on the points they find objectionable and ignore the main theme.



For me, there is no need to go back to John 3:16 since Paul explained very well in Romans 8 the implication of that, there is now no condemnation.

From God's perspective, you are the righteousness of God in Christ. Whenever you fall into acts of sin, that sin is on your body but your spirit remains untainted. God cannot see sin in your spirit. He deliberately ordained it that way, his omniscience cannot see past the blood of Christ that is in your spirit.

It was modeled in the OT, when the blood of the lamb was sprinkled on the mercy seat of the ark, and the tablets of the 10 commandments, which signified man's rebellion against God, is placed under that seat.

Once you understand this, it will not make you go ahead and remain in that sin, its the power to break sin in your flesh.
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Pretty odd idea that God has no ability to see that which is written down, that is the deeds of your life by which you shall be judged. I guess He’ll be surprised too to see what you actually did. (You want the scripture for that?)
 
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Guojing

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DorothyMae said:
Pretty odd idea that God has no ability to see that which is written down, that is the deeds of your life by which you shall be judged. I guess He’ll be surprised too to see what you actually did. (You want the scripture for that?)
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As I have said, the model of that is found in the OT example of the ark of the covenant. 3 items that symbolize Israel's rebellion against God, the stone tablets, Aaron's rod, and the pot of mana.
 
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Guojing said:
As I have said, the model of that is found in the OT example of the ark of the covenant. 3 items that symbolize Israel's rebellion against God, the stone tablets, Aaron's rod, and the pot of mana.
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Where does it say that the pot of manna represents Israel's rebellion against God?

Moses said, "This is what the Lord has commanded: 'Take an omer of manna and keep it for the generations to come, so they can see the bread I gave you to eat in the desert when I brought you out of Egypt.'" Exodus 16:32
 
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Godsgirl83

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jackrosie said:
After 28yrs of being born again......I still cry over the death of Jesus,..it’s not as painful..but I still cry.....why?
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because you're sensitive to His Spirit :)............
because it is still so real to you and not just a story you once heard..........
 
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Guojing said:
My point I was making in that post was this. Like many forum discussions, people often zoom in on the points they find objectionable and ignore the main theme.



For me, there is no need to go back to John 3:16 since Paul explained very well in Romans 8 the implication of that, there is now no condemnation.

From God's perspective, you are the righteousness of God in Christ. Whenever you fall into acts of sin, that sin is on your body but your spirit remains untainted. God cannot see sin in your spirit. He deliberately ordained it that way, his omniscience cannot see past the blood of Christ that is in your spirit.

It was modeled in the OT, when the blood of the lamb was sprinkled on the mercy seat of the ark, and the tablets of the 10 commandments, which signified man's rebellion against God, is placed under that seat.

Once you understand this, it will not make you go ahead and remain in that sin, its the power to break sin in your flesh.
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The triune being is key. You’ve done a great job. It’s always the soul, our mind, our will, and emotions that need saved then. Or sanctified might be the better word.
 
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