Accurately handling what rightly dividing means.

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Agreed, but I think Romans 11 is specifically talking about the Jews and the law. For by the works of the law shall no man be justified in his sight.
Romans 11 is talking to gentiles

Isreal is blind in part, isreal was cut off, you were grafted in,

Either was, any work fits that context, not just works of the law. Paul did not say we do not do works of the lawm but hou better do these works or else
 

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Tell us brother Nehemiah, what would you suggest on "how to study the Bible"? Whats the best way(s).
Since most Christians are interested in specific topics, investing in Nave's Topical Bible would be a good start. Every Bible topic is included with the actual Scripture references, and a breakdown into sub-topics.It is also available online. Then to further dig into the subject I believe Bible Hub is an excellent source, with plenty of Bible study tools. I use it regularly. There are other study tools also but I have not investigated all.
 

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Since most Christians are interested in specific topics, investing in Nave's Topical Bible would be a good start. Every Bible topic is included with the actual Scripture references, and a breakdown into sub-topics.It is also available online. Then to further dig into the subject I believe Bible Hub is an excellent source, with plenty of Bible study tools. I use it regularly. There are other study tools also but I have not investigated all.
I own a KJV with a topical index of sorts in the back too!

I cant STAND reading from the computer screen. I prefer regular paper. If I "read" the Bible online I use AUDIO BIBLE, i memorize things better by LISTENING rather than hearing, so I believe audio bibles are great. Its the original way of delivering the message!
 

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Romans 11 is talking to gentiles
Yes, Romans 11 is addressed to Gentile Christians but it is all about Jews. It is also a very significant portion of Scripture since it refutes Replacement Theology. It also tell us that God has a specific number of Gentiles in view, who will be added to the Church. And when the full number of Gentiles has been completed, God will resume His direct dealings with the Jews and Israel through Christ (after His Second Coming). And this is because of the Abrahamic Covenant given to * the fathers* (the patriarchs Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob).
 

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I have a pet peeve as well. People looking up other versions until they find one that best suits them. I wonder if that's what God intended?
I'm guessing you are a King James person. Not like all those other modern translation sinners. lol -- But I could be wrong.
 

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Romans 11 is talking to gentiles

Isreal is blind in part, isreal was cut off, you were grafted in,

Either was, any work fits that context, not just works of the law. Paul did not say we do not do works of the lawm but hou better do these works or else
To Gentiles about Israel...
 
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Check out the greek. This has absolutely NO hyper-dispensational undertones of separating scriptures to different groups or putting Romans to Philemon to the Church and the rest for Jews (who are also christians, uhh? thought we were ONE?)

orthotomeó: to cut straight
Original Word: ὀρθοτομέω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: orthotomeó
Phonetic Spelling: (or-thot-om-eh'-o)
Definition: to cut straight
Usage: I cut straight; met: I handle correctly, teach rightly.
This is exactly what it means--->to cut straight.......not the NEW IDEA of dividing the OT from the NT........
 

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Which of your sins to Christ die for? Did He die for all sins or just certain sins?


Before I answer (which we all know what the obvious answer here is), there are nearly 8 billion people on this planet currently. How you answer this, will also give me the answer to every person who is currently in a graveyard from Adam to whomever just recently passed on this last minute. But out of the 8 billion people currently alive at this very moment, because Yeshua died for ALL sins, do you believe ALL 8 billion people whether they believe in God, have other gods before the true God, just don't believe there are gods and God, are going to be in Paradise with God?
 

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This is exactly what it means--->to cut straight.......not the NEW IDEA of dividing the OT from the NT........
Right.
And frankly, the NT didn't even exist at the time this scripture was written.
To what was the writer referring? What was "the word of truth" at that time?

It may have included more than just the existing OT. Perhaps the whole message
of the gospel that they were entrusted with. No doctrinal books were in existence.

They were guarding the truth from false ideas from every direction.
In fact, the chapter context bears this out. It's about dealing with false teachers.

2 Timothy 2:14-15
Keep reminding God’s people of these things.
Warn them before God against quarreling about words;
it is of no value, and only ruins those who listen.
15 Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved,
a worker who does not need to be ashamed and
who correctly handles the word of truth.
 

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Please don’t insult. Thank you.

We became one after the cross. Naturally, the directions befor the cross, most of them are not for the body of Christ, since the body of Christ was in mystery form.

Answer the question, did Israel under the law have to make blood sacrifices for forgiveness of sins?
When you say "most of them (the words of Jesus) are not for the body of Christ, since the body of Christ was in mystery form", this is a little fuzzy to me. Are you saying that the body of Christ today do not have to be concerned with most of the words of Jesus Christ spoken in the NT?
 

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When you say "most of them (the words of Jesus) are not for the body of Christ, since the body of Christ was in mystery form", this is a little fuzzy to me. Are you saying that the body of Christ today do not have to be concerned with most of the words of Jesus Christ spoken in the NT?
There are some teachings that can be directly applied no matter what dispensation one lives. Example: the tongue is like a fire. That's true in any time period, before the cross or after.
 

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Romans 11 is talking to gentiles

Isreal is blind in part, isreal was cut off, you were grafted in,

Either was, any work fits that context, not just works of the law. Paul did not say we do not do works of the lawm but hou better do these works or else
I believe that Paul does distinquish between the dead works of the Law of Moses, and good works of the Law of Christ:
Galatians 6:2 King James Version (KJV)
2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

What do you think happens to a saved person that does not fulfil the Law of Christ? And remember this is Paul's own words.
 

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There are some teachings that can be directly applied no matter what dispensation one lives. Example: the tongue is like a fire. That's true in any time period, before the cross or after.
Do we, living under grace, have to be concerned with Matthew 6:14-15?
 

John146

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Do we, living under grace, have to be concerned with Matthew 6:14-15?
Nope. Our salvation has nothing to do with us forgiving others, although that’s a good practice.
 
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Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
2 Timothy 2:15 KJV


We so often discuss the rightly dividing component of that verse. I used KJV but prefer the NASB..


Be diligent to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, accurately handling the word of truth.
2 Timothy 2:15 NASB

Don't get me wrong, I think both are saying the same thing but the second makes more sense to me as to how I interpret what rightly dividing means, in this context.

What I find perplexing is that so many seem to have come to the conclusion that the dividing is between the audiences, the Jews or the Gentiles or between the covenants. That doesn't compute, because we are either from the root of Him or grafted into Him. Either way, He came to bring us together. The message is the same, Himself.

It just doesn't make sense to me. However, my desire to find harmony amongst all the scripture is sometimes difficult for me. Not because it opposes itself but because I lack complete understanding. I trust and believe He will bring His revealing.

If we are one in Him, and that we are not to have divisions, why do we think the “rightly dividing” speaks to dividing the family of believers, with regards to what His scriptures tell us, as though a God who doesn't change has different messages, depending on who we are?

Why does rightly dividing mean to you?

Yes, God who doesn't change does not have different messages, depending on who we are? That would be seeking the approval of each other as the things of men that does offend that of God. . That motive of operation is of the spirit of the antichrist, Satan. He would have us seek the approval of men like that of the Pope .

Rightly dividing means no substracting from the whole, or adding to it.But as it is written we abide in Him