All Christians must die!!!

[Crossfire]

I doubt we'll get an answer Doc. But I'm bumping this anyways. Well Gary ...... it's a very simple YES or NO ??

It's a no most likely. However, I think everyone will agree that there's no excuse for sin which is why repentance is so important. We can't access God's mercy and grace unless we humble ourselves in order to receive it.

 

[Strangelove]

God is able to keep us from sinning per Jude:24

Jude 24 doesnt mention sinning. The whole book of Jude is about being wary of false teachings, like yours.....not being totally sinless.

And even if 'falling' meant sin. It would mean ABIDING in sin.

Do you pray the Lords Prayer?

 

[unclefester]

DId not God send Christ into this world to take away the sins of this world? Yes or no! Let me ask you how did He fail to do that? How did He fail in be ye therefore perfect, mature, even as your Father in heaven is perfect, mature? What is it about the Christ that you dont believe or follow? God sent an example for you to follow, to be like, to immitate, to walk as He walks, same mind, same Spirit, pick up that cross and continue where he left off. DO you think that you are excluded in His righetiousness and this feat? I dont knwo who has been teaching you your doctrine but it is contrary to what Christ teaches for in Him is no sin at all. Do you even know what it is to be in Christ, Christ in you?

Are you completely devoid of sinful deeds in your life?

Yes or no.

 

[4runner]

1st john 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

Did Jesus sin?How then should we walk?

 

[Strangelove]

Made pure

Made righteous

Yes made so in act and deed

If it means that then name me ONE who has been?

Show me. There must be one at least?

Sometimes...irrelevant

Sometimes?

Jesus told us thats how we pray.

Arn't you planning on praying that permanently?

Do you wanna fosake a direct commandment of the Lord?

 

[Strangelove]

It's a no most likely. However, I think everyone will agree that there's no excuse for sin which is why repentance is so important. We can't access God's mercy and grace unless we humble ourselves in order to receive it.

Are you gonna keep hammering the antinomian thing even though no-ones teaching it?

Why dont you get on our side and fight the sinless perfection heresy?

 

[GaryMac]

Do you keep Gods moral laws to His prfect Holy standard every single day?

If one be in Christ it is an automatic. But you have to understand Christ before you can understand the law. It was the law that said to Jesus, you are a blasphemer and son of your father the devil, and hung him on a cross because you cant be son of God that is blaspheme.

So you see the law is what we make it. Christ in you is what He makes us and not under these rules an regulations for tradition.

 

[Strangelove]

DId not God send Christ into this world to take away the sins of this world? Yes or no! Let me ask you how did He fail to do that? How did He fail in be ye therefore perfect, mature, even as your Father in heaven is perfect, mature? What is it about the Christ that you dont believe or follow? God sent an example for you to follow, to be like, to immitate, to walk as He walks, same mind, same Spirit, pick up that cross and continue where he left off. DO you think that you are excluded in His righetiousness and this feat? I dont knwo who has been teaching you your doctrine but it is contrary to what Christ teaches for in Him is no sin at all. Do you even know what it is to be in Christ, Christ in you?

So lets see if you can answer yourself.

Are you completely sinless in act and deed?

For me, Jesus took away my sins by declaring me not guilty in His prescence.

He forgets my sin.

What about you?

 

[GaryMac]

I doubt we'll get an answer Doc. But I'm bumping this anyways. Well Gary ...... it's a very simple YES or NO ??

I answered this once ....

Yes !!! of course, it is an automatick if one is in Christ.

 

[4runner]

Jude 24 doesnt mention sinning. The whole book of Jude is about being wary of false teachings, like yours.....not being totally sinless.

And even if 'falling' meant sin. It would mean ABIDING in sin.

Do you pray the Lords Prayer?

The Greek word translated falling or in some cases stumbling actually means to sin. Jude: 24 literal means that God is able to keep us from sinning. God acts in His providence to keep us from sin

 

[4runner]

Sometimes?

Jesus told us thats how we pray.

Arn't you planning on praying that permanently?

Do you wanna fosake a direct commandment of the Lord?

I forsake no commandment of Christ.

 

[Strangelove]

If one be in Christ it is an automatic. But you have to understand Christ before you can understand the law. It was the law that said to Jesus, you are a blasphemer and son of your father the devil, and hung him on a cross because you cant be son of God that is blaspheme.

So you see the law is what we make it. Christ in you is what He makes us and not under these rules an regulations for tradition.

Another one who cant answer simple questions

(Matthew 5:37) But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.

 

[Strangelove]

I answered this once ....

Yes !!! of course, it is an automatick if one is in Christ.

when was the last time you sinned in deed?

 

[Strangelove]

The Greek word translated falling or in some cases stumbling actually means to sin. Jude: 24 literal means that God is able to keep us from sinning. God acts in His providence to keep us from sin

Sure, no probs...by declaring us not guilty of sinful deeds.

 

[GaryMac]

So lets see if you can answer yourself.

Are you completely sinless in act and deed? ... In every way

For me, Jesus took away my sins by declaring me not guilty in His prescence. If he took away your sin then you are no longer a sinner.

He forgets my sin.

What about you?

If you are counting flesh then yes everyone sins. Was it a sinful act when Jesus got angry, made a whip, and drove out the money changers? it was to the one he drove out, it angered the elect. But if you consider the Spirit that was in that man, then no his act was pure but not to the one he used the whip on.

 

[Strangelove]

I forsake no commandment of Christ.

So are you planning to pray the Lords prayer permanently then?

Yes or no?

 

[Strangelove]

If you are counting flesh then yes everyone sins. Was it a sinful act when Jesus got angry, made a whip, and drove out the money changers? it was to the one he drove out, it angered the elect. But if you consider the Spirit that was in that man, then no his act was pure but not to the one he used the whip on.

So you admit you are currently a sinner in flesh?

 

[GaryMac]

Another one who cant answer simple questions

(Matthew 5:37) But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.

You seem to not understand my posts at all. May I ask you a simple yes or no. Are you as Jesus was and follow Gods example He sent for you to be? .... I am!

 

[GaryMac]

So you admit you are currently a sinner in flesh?

In this flesh is no good thing, that is why I am in Christ.

 

[Tobby17]

Ok, this arguments about sinning again!!.. Getting really tired of it, and it's beginning to get really annoying ..

If you feel you have to continue living in sin as a believer. Plz do, if you don't believe that, then try not to.. May GOD help you...

If you don't want to die to your sins, it's OK, God help you.. If you want to die to your sins, God help you too..

If you want other believers to die (i just saw a reply like that),then it's also OK, God help you.. If people want you to die, don't worry God help you too OK..

So can we stop arguing now??, God help us OK...