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4runner

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Strangelove said:
Sure, no probs...by declaring us not guilty of sinful deeds.
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You really love you sin huh? Jesus tells us we can see who loves Him and who doesnt by whether or not they obey Him or not.

John 14
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
You are so in love with your sin you refuse to make Jesus Lord, yet expect Him to save you. It doesnt work that way like Jesus said in Luke


Luke 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
Only those that obey Jesus will be saved


Hebrews 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him

Will you again deny God's word in favor of your beloved sinfulness?
 
Strangelove

Strangelove

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GaryMac said:
You seem to not understand my posts at all. May I ask you a simple yes or no. Are you as Jesus was and follow Gods example He sent for you to be? .... I am!
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No.

I'm not as Jesus was. He was perfect in thought and deed by His own righteousness.

Now answer my question.

Are you completely devoid of sinful deeds in your life?

Yes or no.
 
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4runner

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Strangelove said:
No.

I'm not as Jesus was. He was perfect in thought and deed by His own righteousness.

Now answer my question.

Are you completely devoid of sinful deeds in your life?

Yes or no.
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No you are not...because that is how we can have confidence in the day of judgment.
1st john 4:17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.

John tells us to have confidence on the day of Judgment we must be as Christ is.
 
Strangelove

Strangelove

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4runner said:
You really love you sin huh? Jesus tells us we can see who loves Him and who doesnt by whether or not they obey Him or not.

John 14
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
You are so in love with your sin you refuse to make Jesus Lord, yet expect Him to save you. It doesnt work that way like Jesus said in Luke


Luke 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
Only those that obey Jesus will be saved


Hebrews 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him

Will you again deny God's word in favor of your beloved sinfulness?
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Nothing in there about becomming sinless in deed.
 
Strangelove

Strangelove

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4runner said:
No you are not...because that is how we can have confidence in the day of judgment.
1st john 4:17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.

John tells us to have confidence on the day of Judgment we must be as Christ is.
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Name me a single sinless man walking the earth right now. One who is devoid of sin in deed.

Or any in history, apart from Jesus.

Should be easy if your interpretation of scipture is correct.
 
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4runner

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Originally Posted by 4runner

You really love you sin huh? Jesus tells us we can see who loves Him and who doesnt by whether or not they obey Him or not.

John 14
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
You are so in love with your sin you refuse to make Jesus Lord, yet expect Him to save you. It doesnt work that way like Jesus said in Luke


Luke 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
Only those that obey Jesus will be saved


Hebrews 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him

Will you again deny God's word in favor of your beloved sinfulness?
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Strangelove said:
Nothing in there about becomming sinless in deed.
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So sinning is obedience to Christ? I thought He commanded us not to sin?
 
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4runner

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Strangelove said:
Name me a single sinless man walking the earth right now. One who is devoid of sin in deed.

Or any in history, apart from Jesus.

Should be easy if your interpretation of scipture is correct.
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So you are saying you have to see it to believe huh? Well i simply believe what God says.
 
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Strangelove

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4runner said:
So sinning is obedience to Christ? I thought He commanded us not to sin?
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Obediance to Christ has nothing to do with becoming completely sinless in deed.

Unless you can show me one who has displayed this?

Can you?
 
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Strangelove said:
Obediance to Christ has nothing to do with becoming completely sinless in deed.

Unless you can show me one who has displayed this?

Can you?
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He said go and sin no more, if you sin you are in disobedience to Him, but of course you cannot admit this simply reality or else you might feel convicted to repent. But if you do that then you would have to give up your one true love...sinfulness.
 
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4runner said:
So you are saying you have to see it to believe huh? Well i simply believe what God says.
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Yeah I need to see it.

What you have is an interpretation of what God says.

Lets see the interpretation in action. Should be easy.

2000 years of history.

ONE man sinless in thought, act and deed just like Jesus.

Lets have it. ONE guy.

I can show you thousands testifying to repentance from sinful lives.

Can you show me one man who says he's sinless?

And do you plan on saying the Lords prayer for the rest of your life?
 
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4runner said:
He said go and sin no more, if you sin you are in disobedience to Him, but of course you cannot admit this simply reality or else you might feel convicted to repent. But if you do that then you would have to give up your one true love...sinfulness.
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Are you in disobediance to Him too?
 
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Strangelove said:
Are you in disobediance to Him too?
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No I am not, you serve your flesh, and I serve Jesus.

Romans 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

You cannot serve two masters. As long as you deny God's truth and walk in sin you are not a servant of Christ.
 
Strangelove

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4runner said:
2nd Corinthians 5:7 For we walk by faith, not by sight
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Ya faith in God.

Not in non-existent perfectly sinless people.

You need to show me.

Can you show me one?

How about your professed apostles?
 
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Strangelove

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4runner said:
No I am not, you serve your flesh, and I serve Jesus.
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But you admit that you sin in deed. Being 'temporarily sinless' (whatever that means) is not enough 4runner!

So do you love your sin too?

Why are you disobedient!!!??
 
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Strangelove said:
But you admit that you sin in deed. Being 'temporarily sinless' (whatever that means) is not enough 4runner!

So do you love your sin too?
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If I sin I repent. I do not serve my sin, refusing to deny my flesh. You are not even a true believer. Jesus says.

Matthew 16:24 Then said Jesus to his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

Why are you disobedient!!!??
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I am not
 
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Luke 14:33 So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.

Strangelove you wont even forsake you sin , much less all you have. That is a strange love isnt?
 
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Anyone who fight so hard against the righteousness of the believer has not submitted themselves to the Lordship or leadership of Christ.
 
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