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He in you and you in Him as one. If that be the case, then what seperates one from being like Him?
 
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If I sin I repent. I do not serve my sin, refusing to deny my flesh. You are not even a true believer. Jesus says.

Matthew 16:24 Then said Jesus to his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

I am not
So?

I repent too.

So whats the difference between you and me?

Do you believe that when someone is truly saved they will cease all fleshly sinful deeds?

Thay cannot sin ever again right?
 
Aug 12, 2010
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Luke 14:33 So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.

Strangelove you wont even forsake you sin , much less all you have. That is a strange love isnt?
Strange that you will cherry pick just about any verse and twist it to support your funky doctrine.
 
Aug 12, 2010
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Anyone who fight so hard against the righteousness of the believer has not submitted themselves to the Lordship or leadership of Christ.
Not submitted themself to delusion.
 
Aug 12, 2010
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4runner:

Do you intend to say the Lords prayer for the rest of your days on this earth?
 
Feb 17, 2010
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Saint... Spiritually pure morally blameless. Most holy ONE...
To be spiritually pure is already without sin. morally blameless, means a perfect moral standard.. God's standard... So the word Saint...Hagios in greek, means it is already a person that STOPPED SINNING! So if you ask a saint ... Do you still sin he has to lie to say Yes, And if He says NO you guys will crucify him calling him a lier, so what chance does a sinless person have here with you? NONE... but then what does it matter, we are just glad you are not the judges, becasue your judgement is not His!

Now a Saint is already a sinless man, and how can a sinner teach a sinless man to be perfect? That means these people appointed by God is perfect!...

Ephesians 4:11 to 13.... And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
 
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So?

I repent too.

So whats the difference between you and me?
The difference is I believe that Jesus can set me free indeed.

Do you believe that when someone is truly saved they will cease all fleshly sinful deeds?
Yes i do

Thay cannot sin ever again right?
They can sin, as in one sin will not deny you the ablity to repent, but we are also able to refrain from sin.

For some reason people think God is not big enough to help us not to sin.
 
Feb 17, 2010
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Strange we pray the Lord's prayer and we mean it... We ask deliver us from EVIL and if God hears and answers then God does that, and then we CANNOT SIN AGAIN.. because GOD KNOWS TO DELIVER HIS CHILDREN FROM EVIL AND THE WICKET ONE CANNOT INFLUENCE ANY MORE!...

First we ask the Lord... DELIVER US FROM EVIL .... THEN GOD...
And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve
me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
he Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
 
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The differance is also... Jesus prayed for me in this.... I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one;
I know SOON all these people you like to lable here will be made ONE with Jesus, and they will be AS PERFECT as Him right here on earth.. Becasue as God is we will be like HIM in this World!

Praise the MIGHTY SALVATION OF GOD! AMEN!
 
Aug 12, 2010
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Saint... Spiritually pure morally blameless. Most holy ONE...
To be spiritually pure is already without sin. morally blameless, means a perfect moral standard.. God's standard... So the word Saint...Hagios in greek, means it is already a person that STOPPED SINNING! So if you ask a saint ... Do you still sin he has to lie to say Yes, And if He says NO you guys will crucify him calling him a lier, so what chance does a sinless person have here with you? NONE... but then what does it matter, we are just glad you are not the judges, becasue your judgement is not His!

Now a Saint is already a sinless man, and how can a sinner teach a sinless man to be perfect? That means these people appointed by God is perfect!...

Ephesians 4:11 to 13.... And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
Saint... Spiritually pure morally blameless. Most holy ONE...
To be spiritually pure is already without sin. morally blameless, means a perfect moral standard.. God's standard... So the word Saint...Hagios in greek, means it is already a person that STOPPED SINNING! So if you ask a saint ... Do you still sin he has to lie to say Yes, And if He says NO you guys will crucify him calling him a lier, so what chance does a sinless person have here with you? NONE... but then what does it matter, we are just glad you are not the judges, becasue your judgement is not His!

Now a Saint is already a sinless man, and how can a sinner teach a sinless man to be perfect? That means these people appointed by God is perfect!...

Ephesians 4:11 to 13.... And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
How do we become perfect in Gods eyes?

(2 Corinthians 5:21) For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

(Hebrews 10:14) For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
 
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The difference is I believe that Jesus can set me free indeed.
I believe He already has. You must be in TURMOIL.


Yes i do

They can sin, as in one sin will not deny you the ablity to repent, but we are also able to refrain from sin.

For some reason people think God is not big enough to help us not to sin.
So make up your mind dude!

Can people become sinless or not. What does refrain from sin mean?

Are you teaching sinless perfection yes or no?

This is one of your proof texts:

(1 John 3:9) Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

But you say they can sin, as in one sin?

So can one born of God sin or not?

Whats with the doublemindedness?
 
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Strange we pray the Lord's prayer and we mean it... We ask deliver us from EVIL and if God hears and answers then God does that, and then we CANNOT SIN AGAIN.. because GOD KNOWS TO DELIVER HIS CHILDREN FROM EVIL AND THE WICKET ONE CANNOT INFLUENCE ANY MORE!...

First we ask the Lord... DELIVER US FROM EVIL .... THEN GOD...
And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve
me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
he Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
Do you ask forgiveness of your sins?
 
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The differance is also... Jesus prayed for me in this.... I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one;
I know SOON all these people you like to lable here will be made ONE with Jesus, and they will be AS PERFECT as Him right here on earth.. Becasue as God is we will be like HIM in this World!

Praise the MIGHTY SALVATION OF GOD! AMEN!
I dunno what your waiting for. He's already done it for true believers. It's finished.
 
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Easy Strange Jesus just showed you in John 17.... HE IS IN US that is what KEEPS Him perfect... You are not yourself anymore when you are IN CHRIST becasue you DIED!!! When you die, you are DEAD! And Jesus said ... For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it.

Lose your sinful life by STOP SINNING and you will save in a HOLY PERFECT LIFE THAT LASTS EVERLASTING LIFE... The flesh might go to sleep, but the soul and spirit, is you...The flesh is just a vessel...
 
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Strange I am still here but when Jesus enters SOON then I am not here... I am dead then... Died for this world and sin, and Jesus is REBORN INTO ME, and HE CANNOT SIN!