AM I JEW OR A GENTILE IF I KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS ?

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eternally-gratefull

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Its just i don't know how you go from one lovely quote like the one you quote in 911 and then your quote next in 914
Maybe you do not understand his quote in 914?

You claimed he was boasting, If you saw that, you did not understand what he said at all.
 
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A notable contribution from my own morning's Hebrew reading. In Matthew, Jesus revealed to His disciples that He was to be put into the hands of sinners. That is mankind. All who have sinned are responsible for the death of our beloved Savior, you and I.

The prophecy concerning how it was to have been says it would be at the hands of HIs own people, His own tribe (Judah) I believe.

No matter, what, anyone who claims to believe Yeshua, Jesus, knows that all men are sinners and He had to die as He did in order for all mankind to be in a position to be saved, along with the Jews who believe.

Unless people here are God, they are not, they have no way of knowing who is saved and who is not. Yahweh says He will justify the ungodly, yet many individuals come to the brink of judging all Jews to eteranl damnation, and this should not be so. Anyone who knows the mystery of what is specifically going to be dealt to the Jews, the beloved Jews, today, knows the mind of Yahweh, and no man knows this, so keep judgmental declarations to yourselves in this regard, for they are not of Yeshua, Jesus.
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. . .Eph. 6:12

Then entered Satan into Judas, surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve. Luke 22:3
And supper being ended, the devil having now put into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, to betray him; John 13:2

But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the world unto our glory: Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they knkown it they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 1 Cor. 2:7,8

And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head and thou shalt bruise his heel. Gen 3:15

The plan of redemption.
 
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Maybe you do not understand his quote in 914?

You claimed he was boasting, If you saw that, you did not understand what he said at all.
its ok i dont blame you or anybody else based on this next scipture.

Jude 1:10-12

New International Version - UK (NIVUK)

[SUP]10 [/SUP]Yet these people slander whatever they do not understand, and the very things they do understand by instinct – as irrational animals do – will destroy them.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Woe to them! They have taken the way of Cain; they have rushed for profit into Balaam’s error; they have been destroyed in Korah’s rebellion.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]These people are blemishes at your love feasts, eating with you without the slightest qualm – shepherds who feed only themselves. They are clouds without rain, blown along by the wind; autumn trees, without fruit and uprooted – twice dead.
 
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The ignorant and foolish never learn from history, not seeing the writing on the wall. In America murder is legal by way of the womb, and with implementation of the new health care, not only are they reaching for more lenient ways of aborting a life, but senior citizen mandatory euthanasia is implied. The sanctity of life is not a luxury for an elite few, but for all men. The masses are "conditioned" methodically to embrace murder, some by way of their mere silence. When difficult times come, and they will, the Holocaust will be repeated, along with Christians who keep the commandments of God with faith in Yeshua, and like recent history the silent and still majority will allow it to happen, thinking it won't affect them.

The Jews have always been hated by the world, and endeavors to exterminate them, or at the least make them a scape goat is an agenda of the devil, and the devil has many supporters, even within the Church walls. Martin Luther penned the words "burn down their synagogs", and he is just one of many church fathers who persecuted Jews. All through history the Jews are persecuted and treated with scorn. Antisemitism, or stand with the Jewish people? That is a question all be faced with one day.

Zechariah12:1 The burden of the word of the Lord for Israel, saith the Lord, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him. [SUP]2 [/SUP]Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem. [SUP]3 [/SUP]And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Revelation 2:13 (KJV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP]I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth.

The two edged sword is for believers in Christ. What are we doing fighting with people who claim to have a two edged sword when they only wield it one way? Evidently some have made it a habit of grinding one edge to a flat surface because they hated the sharp edge that came before Christ. Wasn't the ONE who sent Jesus the author of the law?

John 14:8-10 (KJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
 

Grandpa

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Its just i don't know how you go from one lovely quote like the one you quote in 911 and then your quote next in 914
914 is for the Judaizers who think their obedience to God is through the Law.

911 is for Christians who know their obedience and rest comes from Christ.

James 1:5-6
[SUP]5 [/SUP]If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.

Mark 9:23-24

[SUP]23 [/SUP]Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief.
 
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1 Peter 3:16

New International Version - UK (NIVUK)

[SUP]16 [/SUP]keeping a clear conscience, so that those who speak maliciously against your good behaviour in Christ may be ashamed of their slander.

this scipture also goes with this

Jude 1:10-12

New International Version - UK (NIVUK)

[SUP]10 [/SUP]Yet these people slander whatever they do not understand, and the very things they do understand by instinct – as irrational animals do – will destroy them.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Woe to them! They have taken the way of Cain; they have rushed for profit into Balaam’s error; they have been destroyed in Korah’s rebellion.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]These people are blemishes at your love feasts, eating with you without the slightest qualm – shepherds who feed only themselves. They are clouds without rain, blown along by the wind; autumn trees, without fruit and uprooted – twice dead.


my understand of both these scripture is this none of them means to teach to shame people, what they both say to me is just keep doing good and teaching good and the shamed will see there shame . no you have no to teach and mock what you don't understand stand firm and love not mock
 
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Yeshua, the only High Priest, teaches all to obey the commandments. If someone dimishes the least of these, he will be dimished in the Kingdom.
People that desire the law to be abolished cannot see its spiritual significance. It's the evidence of a carnal mind.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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its ok i dont blame you or anybody else based on this next scipture.

Jude 1:10-12

New International Version - UK (NIVUK)

[SUP]10 [/SUP]Yet these people slander whatever they do not understand, and the very things they do understand by instinct – as irrational animals do – will destroy them.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Woe to them! They have taken the way of Cain; they have rushed for profit into Balaam’s error; they have been destroyed in Korah’s rebellion.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]These people are blemishes at your love feasts, eating with you without the slightest qualm – shepherds who feed only themselves. They are clouds without rain, blown along by the wind; autumn trees, without fruit and uprooted – twice dead.

so you cant show me where he boasted, but attack instead? whats wrong with you people?
 
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914 is for the Judaizers who think their obedience to God is through the Law.

911 is for Christians who know their obedience and rest comes from Christ.

James 1:5-6
[SUP]5 [/SUP]If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.

Mark 9:23-24

[SUP]23 [/SUP]Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief.
sorry but i do not agree your post in 911 should be for Jew and gentile, as you know god has made no distinction
 
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so you cant show me where he boasted, but attack instead? whats wrong with you people?
whats wrong with you people would indicate you you are better than me and others, ? that is not way have you not learnt anything from my last scriptures ?
 

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Yeshua, the only High Priest, teaches all to obey the commandments. If someone dimishes the least of these, he will be dimished in the Kingdom.
Which of the fruit of the Spirit will cause my disobedience to any of His Laws??????

The Lord Jesus doesn't cause people to stay under the Ministration of Death. That is what religious people attempt to do.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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whats wrong with you people would indicate you you are better than me and others, ? that is not way have you not learnt anything from my last scriptures ?
No

It is asking you a serious question.

You stated he sounded boastfull.

I asked how.

You said look at YOUR POST, then attacked me.

How is that showing me where he sounded boastfull??


On the contrary, it sounds like you think you are better than us, You make a claim against something he said, then do not have to back your claim, we just have to believe you?? who is being boastful here??
 
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eternally-gratefull

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sorry but i do not agree your post in 911 should be for Jew and gentile, as you know god has made no distinction

911 is for jew and gentile.

Do yo unot know a CHRISTIAN can be either jew or gentile??
 

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People that desire the law to be abolished cannot see its spiritual significance. It's the evidence of a carnal mind.
There is no reason for the law to be abolished. It brings people to Christ, and that is good.

What the carnal mind can't understand is not being under the law anymore. Only the Lord Jesus can give us this gift. Rest.
 
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No

It is asking you a serious question.

You stated he sounded boastfull.

I asked how.

You said look at YOUR POST, then attacked me.

How is that showing me where he sounded boastfull??


On the contrary, it sounds like you think you are better than us, You make a claim against something he said, then do not have to back your claim, we just have to believe you?? who is being boastful here??
No i did not attack you that is wrong and not of God.

you jumped in to mine and grandpas discusion which i have no problem with. but i do have a problem with people attacking Jews.

I ask nicely i did not claim out rightfully that he was boastful i pointed out that his post looks like you are claiming to be holier than thou and i did not say outright you are boastful person which is how you have took it and not how it was ment.

the way i put it gave him a chance to explain.
 
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There is no reason for the law to be abolished. It brings people to Christ, and that is good.

What the carnal mind can't understand is not being under the law anymore. Only the Lord Jesus can give us this gift. Rest.
giving them the benefit of the doubt for one moment, i suppose after such a long time in that system of error, they don't realize they are playing a game with the words law and covenant. when shown by God himself in his word the old covenant is completely abolished, they switch to the left hand and call it law abolished.

now that this trick has been brought to mind, end of benefit of the doubt for that poster if he does it again.
 
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And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

—Isaiah 2:4