Do you realize how you have bared your misunderstanding of the faith of Abrahm with this declaration? There is nothing at all wrong with calling oneself a Christian if he truly believes Jesus, but the Gospel of Yeshua, Jesus, brings people to the God of Abraham. Why would any Jew or descendant of Israel want to be called a Christian when they were already in the faith of Abraham, and completed in believing the Master, Yeshua? This sounds all too familiar as those who believe they are somehow above Jews. We have entered the Gate promised to Abraham to be with the people of Yahweh, and all should know this. If not they cannot possibly understand the Word well.
AM I JEW OR A GENTILE IF I KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS ?
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[h=3]John 10[/h]New International Version - UK (NIVUK)
[h=3]The good shepherd and his sheep[/h]10 ‘Very truly I tell you Pharisees, anyone who does not enter the sheepfold by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber. [SUP]2 [/SUP]The one who enters by the gate is the shepherd of the sheep. [SUP]3 [/SUP]The gatekeeper opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen to his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. [SUP]4 [/SUP]When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. [SUP]5 [/SUP]But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognise a stranger’s voice.’ [SUP]6 [/SUP]Jesus used this figure of speech, but the Pharisees did not understand what he was telling them.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Therefore Jesus said again, ‘Very truly I tell you, I am the gate for the sheep. [SUP]8 [/SUP]All who have come before me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep have not listened to them. [SUP]9 [/SUP]I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved.[SUP][a][/SUP] They will come in and go out, and find pasture. [SUP]10 [/SUP]The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]‘I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. [SUP]12 [/SUP]The hired hand is not the shepherd and does not own the sheep. So when he sees the wolf coming, he abandons the sheep and runs away. Then the wolf attacks the flock and scatters it. [SUP]13 [/SUP]The man runs away because he is a hired hand and cares nothing for the sheep.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]‘I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me – [SUP]15 [/SUP]just as the Father knows me and I know the Father – and I lay down my life for the sheep. [SUP]16 [/SUP]I have other sheep that are not of this sheepfold. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd. [SUP]17 [/SUP]The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life – only to take it up again. [SUP]18 [/SUP]No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.’
[SUP]19 [/SUP]The Jews who heard these words were again divided. [SUP]20 [/SUP]Many of them said, ‘He is demon-possessed and raving mad. Why listen to him?’
[SUP]21 [/SUP]But others said, ‘These are not the sayings of a man possessed by a demon. Can a demon open the eyes of the blind?’
[h=3]Further conflict over Jesus’ claims[/h][SUP]22 [/SUP]Then came the Festival of Dedication[SUP][b][/SUP] at Jerusalem. It was winter, [SUP]23 [/SUP]and Jesus was in the temple courts walking in Solomon’s Colonnade. [SUP]24 [/SUP]The Jews who were there gathered round him, saying, ‘How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Messiah, tell us plainly.’
[SUP]25 [/SUP]Jesus answered, ‘I did tell you, but you do not believe. The works I do in my Father’s name testify about me, [SUP]26 [/SUP]but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. [SUP]27 [/SUP]My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. [SUP]28 [/SUP]I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. [SUP]29 [/SUP]My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all[SUP][c][/SUP]; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. [SUP]30 [/SUP]I and the Father are one.’
[SUP]31 [/SUP]Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him, [SUP]32 [/SUP]but Jesus said to them, ‘I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?’
[SUP]33 [/SUP]‘We are not stoning you for any good work,’ they replied, ‘but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.’
[SUP]34 [/SUP]Jesus answered them, ‘Is it not written in your Law, “I have said you are ‘gods’”[SUP][d][/SUP]? [SUP]35 [/SUP]If he called them “gods”, to whom the word of God came – and Scripture cannot be set aside – [SUP]36 [/SUP]what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, “I am God’s Son”? [SUP]37 [/SUP]Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father. [SUP]38 [/SUP]But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.’ [SUP]39 [/SUP]Again they tried to seize him, but he escaped their grasp.
[SUP]40 [/SUP]Then Jesus went back across the Jordan to the place where John had been baptising in the early days. There he stayed, [SUP]41 [/SUP]and many people came to him. They said, ‘Though John never performed a sign, all that John said about this man was true.’ [SUP]42 [/SUP]And in that place many believed in Jesus.
[h=3]The good shepherd and his sheep[/h]10 ‘Very truly I tell you Pharisees, anyone who does not enter the sheepfold by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber. [SUP]2 [/SUP]The one who enters by the gate is the shepherd of the sheep. [SUP]3 [/SUP]The gatekeeper opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen to his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. [SUP]4 [/SUP]When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. [SUP]5 [/SUP]But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognise a stranger’s voice.’ [SUP]6 [/SUP]Jesus used this figure of speech, but the Pharisees did not understand what he was telling them.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Therefore Jesus said again, ‘Very truly I tell you, I am the gate for the sheep. [SUP]8 [/SUP]All who have come before me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep have not listened to them. [SUP]9 [/SUP]I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved.[SUP][a][/SUP] They will come in and go out, and find pasture. [SUP]10 [/SUP]The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]‘I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. [SUP]12 [/SUP]The hired hand is not the shepherd and does not own the sheep. So when he sees the wolf coming, he abandons the sheep and runs away. Then the wolf attacks the flock and scatters it. [SUP]13 [/SUP]The man runs away because he is a hired hand and cares nothing for the sheep.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]‘I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me – [SUP]15 [/SUP]just as the Father knows me and I know the Father – and I lay down my life for the sheep. [SUP]16 [/SUP]I have other sheep that are not of this sheepfold. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd. [SUP]17 [/SUP]The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life – only to take it up again. [SUP]18 [/SUP]No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.’
[SUP]19 [/SUP]The Jews who heard these words were again divided. [SUP]20 [/SUP]Many of them said, ‘He is demon-possessed and raving mad. Why listen to him?’
[SUP]21 [/SUP]But others said, ‘These are not the sayings of a man possessed by a demon. Can a demon open the eyes of the blind?’
[h=3]Further conflict over Jesus’ claims[/h][SUP]22 [/SUP]Then came the Festival of Dedication[SUP][b][/SUP] at Jerusalem. It was winter, [SUP]23 [/SUP]and Jesus was in the temple courts walking in Solomon’s Colonnade. [SUP]24 [/SUP]The Jews who were there gathered round him, saying, ‘How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Messiah, tell us plainly.’
[SUP]25 [/SUP]Jesus answered, ‘I did tell you, but you do not believe. The works I do in my Father’s name testify about me, [SUP]26 [/SUP]but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. [SUP]27 [/SUP]My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. [SUP]28 [/SUP]I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. [SUP]29 [/SUP]My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all[SUP][c][/SUP]; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. [SUP]30 [/SUP]I and the Father are one.’
[SUP]31 [/SUP]Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him, [SUP]32 [/SUP]but Jesus said to them, ‘I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?’
[SUP]33 [/SUP]‘We are not stoning you for any good work,’ they replied, ‘but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.’
[SUP]34 [/SUP]Jesus answered them, ‘Is it not written in your Law, “I have said you are ‘gods’”[SUP][d][/SUP]? [SUP]35 [/SUP]If he called them “gods”, to whom the word of God came – and Scripture cannot be set aside – [SUP]36 [/SUP]what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, “I am God’s Son”? [SUP]37 [/SUP]Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father. [SUP]38 [/SUP]But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.’ [SUP]39 [/SUP]Again they tried to seize him, but he escaped their grasp.
[SUP]40 [/SUP]Then Jesus went back across the Jordan to the place where John had been baptising in the early days. There he stayed, [SUP]41 [/SUP]and many people came to him. They said, ‘Though John never performed a sign, all that John said about this man was true.’ [SUP]42 [/SUP]And in that place many believed in Jesus.
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Bless the people who preserved the Old Testament or Tanakh, from which we all learn in order to truly understand the writings in the New Testament. All who come through the Gate, that is to say, Yeshua, Jesus, are now gathered with the original flock of the Good Shepherd. Learn this, and do not bury what you have been given in the dirt.
Gen 22:16
And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:
Gen 22:17
That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;
Gen 22:18
And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.
Gen 22:16
And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:
Gen 22:17
That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;
Gen 22:18
And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.
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Matthew 7:13-14 (KJV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Take note that the gate is strait, not straight. There are obstacles and only throw Christ Jesus can one overcome these obstacles. The term may be used as "tough straits."
John 16:33 (KJV)
[SUP]33 [/SUP]These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
Romans 5:3-5 (KJV)
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And patience, experience; and experience, hope:
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.
Romans 8:23-24 (KJV)
[SUP]23 [/SUP]And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
This is reality.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Take note that the gate is strait, not straight. There are obstacles and only throw Christ Jesus can one overcome these obstacles. The term may be used as "tough straits."
John 16:33 (KJV)
[SUP]33 [/SUP]These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
Romans 5:3-5 (KJV)
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And patience, experience; and experience, hope:
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.
Romans 8:23-24 (KJV)
[SUP]23 [/SUP]And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
This is reality.
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Stop partial quoting then finishing what you feign to be quoting with a prefabrication. No one said anything about destoying the faith of Abraham. I did not refer to Abraham as anything other than Abraham. You have misrepresented another post here with your perverting the meaning of the words. You are going to go now. Good bye. Read all of my post which you misrepresent and perverted.
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In what way is Just-Me playing with Scripture? Where he implies the Law still has spiritual significance for Christians, seeing that the Spirit leads by love which is essentially the satisfying (fulfilling) of the Law? Or that the proof of a carnal mind is one which does not subject itself to the Law from the Spirit?
Does not the Law speak of God's essence? How can saying such hurt one's standing, when all they are saying is that God has not changed, all those moral 'do nots' still are against His nature and are still considered evil in His sight. All those moral 'dos' still are pleasing before Him and are still considered good in His sight.
We Christians establish the Law. But, those of us who teach against it are called the least in the Kingdom from the heavens. If we teach against God's Law, are we not in reality teaching against God's morals?
Does not the Law speak of God's essence? How can saying such hurt one's standing, when all they are saying is that God has not changed, all those moral 'do nots' still are against His nature and are still considered evil in His sight. All those moral 'dos' still are pleasing before Him and are still considered good in His sight.
We Christians establish the Law. But, those of us who teach against it are called the least in the Kingdom from the heavens. If we teach against God's Law, are we not in reality teaching against God's morals?
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
—Isaiah 2:4[/QUOTE]war no more against the people but fight the evil forces The Full Armor of God
…11Put on the full armor of God, so that you will be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil. 12For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. 13Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.…
—Isaiah 2:4[/QUOTE]war no more against the people but fight the evil forces The Full Armor of God
…11Put on the full armor of God, so that you will be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil. 12For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. 13Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.…