Angels can procreate
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“the line of Shem was accepted and those of Japheth and Ham were rejected. “
Not at all what I said
Seths line of people is who’s chosen in the ot all you have to do is follow the geneology Seth , to Noah , to Shem to abraham
when you get to Noah’s sons the people are broken into thirds
shems children Abraham’s line
hams children canaans line
and japeths children represent the gentile inclusion with Abraham children
What I was saying is basic it’s rooted here because of what ham did to Noah and how the other two reacted
“And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem;
And Canaan ( Hams line )shall be his servant.
God shall enlarge Japheth, And he shall dwell in the tents of Shem;
And Canaan shall be his servant.”
Genesis 9:26-27
those three men repopulated the earth from shems line came the nation of Hebrews the children of Abraham
Japeth represents the gentiles that would later be included with shem
and hams line was made a servant to them who would dwell together
Shem and japeth
Jew and gentile believers dwelling together in the same tent
“For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;”
Ephesians 2:18-19 KJV
Japeths blessing is a fleshly earthly pattern of that the gentiles dwelling together in one body with israel
ham being cut out and cursed as a servant is an earthly physical pattern of the rebellious people on earth
Not at all what I said
Seths line of people is who’s chosen in the ot all you have to do is follow the geneology Seth , to Noah , to Shem to abraham
when you get to Noah’s sons the people are broken into thirds
shems children Abraham’s line
hams children canaans line
and japeths children represent the gentile inclusion with Abraham children
What I was saying is basic it’s rooted here because of what ham did to Noah and how the other two reacted
“And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem;
And Canaan ( Hams line )shall be his servant.
God shall enlarge Japheth, And he shall dwell in the tents of Shem;
And Canaan shall be his servant.”
Genesis 9:26-27
those three men repopulated the earth from shems line came the nation of Hebrews the children of Abraham
Japeth represents the gentiles that would later be included with shem
and hams line was made a servant to them who would dwell together
Shem and japeth
Jew and gentile believers dwelling together in the same tent
“For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;”
Ephesians 2:18-19 KJV
Japeths blessing is a fleshly earthly pattern of that the gentiles dwelling together in one body with israel
ham being cut out and cursed as a servant is an earthly physical pattern of the rebellious people on earth
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You read it into things.
The Mary thing means she was Valuable. Esteemed, is a term for she was valuable to God.
And Islamic Tactic?
By asking if I thought people believed to conceive in the Womb means they had Sex, is Islamic?
Some Protestant Churches teach differently on this Topic. I just am fishing here to see what you think.
The Mary thing means she was Valuable. Esteemed, is a term for she was valuable to God.
And Islamic Tactic?
By asking if I thought people believed to conceive in the Womb means they had Sex, is Islamic?
Some Protestant Churches teach differently on this Topic. I just am fishing here to see what you think.
I have not said anywhere in my posts that sex is negative.
I set my case several times for the beauty of sex in marriage, as God intended and commanded.
Not outside God's parameters, and not with angels as you are insisting.
Why is it that YOU can't seem to talk about anything else BUT sex?
For as much as you said you tried your hardest to be married, have you never realized that someone who won't or can't talk about anything but sex and their possibility of getting it is definitely putting up huge red flags?
I'm not negative about sex at all.
I just don't believe in getting it any way possible as you seem to believe, to the point of promoting the idea of sex with spirit beings because of you can't seem to bear the thought of not getting it.
Your fixation on, and idolization of sex is what's negative.
I set my case several times for the beauty of sex in marriage, as God intended and commanded.
Not outside God's parameters, and not with angels as you are insisting.
Why is it that YOU can't seem to talk about anything else BUT sex?
For as much as you said you tried your hardest to be married, have you never realized that someone who won't or can't talk about anything but sex and their possibility of getting it is definitely putting up huge red flags?
I'm not negative about sex at all.
I just don't believe in getting it any way possible as you seem to believe, to the point of promoting the idea of sex with spirit beings because of you can't seem to bear the thought of not getting it.
Your fixation on, and idolization of sex is what's negative.
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I am not disputing that. I am disputing the myth that the whole line of Seth was righteous and that is proven through the sons of Noah.
The key to the genealogy of Christ is Abraham. God made a covenant with Abraham which included (a) the twelve tribes of Israel through Isaac and Jacob and the land of greater Israel, (b) Christ Himself as called "the Seed" of Abraham, and (c) all believers who would be justified by grace through faith just like Abraham was.
Getting back to the title of this thread "The daughters of men" were just that -- human women. The "sons of God" were just that -- evil angels but called "the sons of God" because they were direct creations of God. Did they procreate the Nephilim? Absolutely. Are they called "the angels which kept not their first estate"? Absolutely. And because God saw this as very evil, those same angels are now "chained" in a separate prison called Tartarus. They will not be allowed any freedom until their final judgment. The book of Enoch gives us tremendous insight into this matter. And only in the OT are angels called "the sons of God". In the NT that term is reserved for the children of God through the New Birth.
The key to the genealogy of Christ is Abraham. God made a covenant with Abraham which included (a) the twelve tribes of Israel through Isaac and Jacob and the land of greater Israel, (b) Christ Himself as called "the Seed" of Abraham, and (c) all believers who would be justified by grace through faith just like Abraham was.
Getting back to the title of this thread "The daughters of men" were just that -- human women. The "sons of God" were just that -- evil angels but called "the sons of God" because they were direct creations of God. Did they procreate the Nephilim? Absolutely. Are they called "the angels which kept not their first estate"? Absolutely. And because God saw this as very evil, those same angels are now "chained" in a separate prison called Tartarus. They will not be allowed any freedom until their final judgment. The book of Enoch gives us tremendous insight into this matter. And only in the OT are angels called "the sons of God". In the NT that term is reserved for the children of God through the New Birth.
Hebrew and Greek Words for Angels
The English word “angel” comes from the Greek word angelos which means “to send”. The corresponding Hebrew word is malach (malachim in the plural) which means messenger. In both cases it is a “job description” rather than a description of their essence or nature.
The English word “angel” comes from the Greek word angelos which means “to send”. The corresponding Hebrew word is malach (malachim in the plural) which means messenger. In both cases it is a “job description” rather than a description of their essence or nature.
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God Himself puts conditions on sex, which you seem to insist on vehemently denying.
If there is or isn't sex in heaven, that's up to God.
Unlike you, I've learned to accept it either way, even if it means it's never possible for me.
You on the other hand insist on bending God's guidelines in any way you see fit in order to get it. You can't accept the idea of existing without the possibility of sex.
So who/what do you believe in more, God, or sex?
If there is or isn't sex in heaven, that's up to God.
Unlike you, I've learned to accept it either way, even if it means it's never possible for me.
You on the other hand insist on bending God's guidelines in any way you see fit in order to get it. You can't accept the idea of existing without the possibility of sex.
So who/what do you believe in more, God, or sex?
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