ANGELS DO NOT HAVE FLESHLY BODIES
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《The book of Enoch》I don't know the authenticity of the book,To know is to know, not to know is not to know, this is what I know
This is my restoration of the ark, if people don't know god and bible ,Think about marriage,The first love we come across comes from parents, then husbands, wives, and friends.So are these things crimes or sins? (I think no.)
Are the sons of God (or angels) guilty of marrying a human woman?(I think no)
So what's the reason for God to start a flood ? (I guess it's probably the same as the world today or maybe as the 《The book of Enoch》said)
And I have an idea From my understanding of the whole Bible, the whole bible means LIFE NOT SIN.(IT'S A BOOK OF LIFE,NOT A BOOK OF SIN)
Genesis 2:16
And the LORD God commanded the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden;
Genesis 2:17
but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die."
the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
Ten Commandments for nomal life
what if everyone don't break the Ten Commandments ,we will have a nomal life just as the original image of the ark.
That's what life really means NO GOOD AND EVIL JUST NOMAL, A NOMAL LIFE
What broke the first one Commandment , I think people make their own rules, and use their own rules to determine "good or bad"
That's NOT nomal LIFE. IT'S ALL ABOUT "GOOD AND BAD"
As the Bible says, the all world is guilty (We are really dead,cuz our sin)
Since the birth of Jesus Christ,the law of rule is love,that's the key
Love your neighbor as yourself.
Love your enemies
Pray for your enemies
It's not about defining good and evil at all
It's about how to redefine love,God's love Through Jesus Christ
(Proverbs 10:12 Hatred stirs up dissension, but love covers over all wrongs.)
Heaven is like a man who falls in love with life and love
This is my restoration of the ark, if people don't know god and bible ,Think about marriage,The first love we come across comes from parents, then husbands, wives, and friends.So are these things crimes or sins? (I think no.)
Are the sons of God (or angels) guilty of marrying a human woman?(I think no)
So what's the reason for God to start a flood ? (I guess it's probably the same as the world today or maybe as the 《The book of Enoch》said)
And I have an idea From my understanding of the whole Bible, the whole bible means LIFE NOT SIN.(IT'S A BOOK OF LIFE,NOT A BOOK OF SIN)
Genesis 2:16
And the LORD God commanded the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden;
Genesis 2:17
but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die."
the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
Ten Commandments for nomal life
what if everyone don't break the Ten Commandments ,we will have a nomal life just as the original image of the ark.
That's what life really means NO GOOD AND EVIL JUST NOMAL, A NOMAL LIFE
What broke the first one Commandment , I think people make their own rules, and use their own rules to determine "good or bad"
That's NOT nomal LIFE. IT'S ALL ABOUT "GOOD AND BAD"
As the Bible says, the all world is guilty (We are really dead,cuz our sin)
Since the birth of Jesus Christ,the law of rule is love,that's the key
Love your neighbor as yourself.
Love your enemies
Pray for your enemies
It's not about defining good and evil at all
It's about how to redefine love,God's love Through Jesus Christ
(Proverbs 10:12 Hatred stirs up dissension, but love covers over all wrongs.)
Heaven is like a man who falls in love with life and love
You're right - they can take the appearance of humans, so that it is hard to tell that they may really be angels! That's interesting how you've had experiences in the past - in which in at least in one case, you knew for certain that it was an angel. Yes, it's amazing to realize that some people who help us, if not known to be related to anyone on earth - might be actually angels - as your reference also indicated! That was a good verse for illustrating that - thanks!
Heb 13:2
2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
KJV
Heb 13:2
2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
KJV
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I would suggest a person could no more drown a spirit that does not breath oxygen (flesh and blood) anymore than they could chain one or lock it in a room .
There were mighty men of God called the "renown "(giants of faith). Believers like Noah, as sons of God before and after the flood. Just as there are today.
The word renown is used 11 times in the Bible and always to support sons of God. "Christians" Whosoever has not the Spirit of Christ they do not belong to Him
Its a evil generation that seeks after a signs and lying wonders gospel. Hollywood stuff.
Along with the lying wonders God sends a strong delusion so that some can continue to believe the lie, just like he strong delusion sent to the first King Saul , when God no longer spoke to Him in any manner..
1 Samuel 28:14 And he said unto her, What form is he of? And she said, An old man cometh up; and he is covered with a mantle. And Saul perceived that it was Samuel, (the strong delusion) and he stooped with his face to the ground, and bowed himself. (the work of the believing the strong delusion)
You could say without "lying faith" coming from the imagination of a fleshly mind that comes from believing the lie Saul would of had nothing to bow to so he bowed to himself "self-edifying"
Spirits (the breath of life) coming from God who is not a man do no have DNA. Lies are not subject to salvation because they have no substance (flesh and blood).
2 Thessalonians 2 9-12 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
There were mighty men of God called the "renown "(giants of faith). Believers like Noah, as sons of God before and after the flood. Just as there are today.
The word renown is used 11 times in the Bible and always to support sons of God. "Christians" Whosoever has not the Spirit of Christ they do not belong to Him
Its a evil generation that seeks after a signs and lying wonders gospel. Hollywood stuff.
Along with the lying wonders God sends a strong delusion so that some can continue to believe the lie, just like he strong delusion sent to the first King Saul , when God no longer spoke to Him in any manner..
1 Samuel 28:14 And he said unto her, What form is he of? And she said, An old man cometh up; and he is covered with a mantle. And Saul perceived that it was Samuel, (the strong delusion) and he stooped with his face to the ground, and bowed himself. (the work of the believing the strong delusion)
You could say without "lying faith" coming from the imagination of a fleshly mind that comes from believing the lie Saul would of had nothing to bow to so he bowed to himself "self-edifying"
Spirits (the breath of life) coming from God who is not a man do no have DNA. Lies are not subject to salvation because they have no substance (flesh and blood).
2 Thessalonians 2 9-12 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
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Yes, angels are not able to have sexual relations with humans. I believe the book of Enoch that is around is a fake book - I mean that it couldn't have been written by Enoch, since the book's claim that angels cohabited with humans, I see as false and not possible. I think they made that claim in order to add fascination to the book and to get more people to buy it. And think of how no one has seen demons in fleshly form in modern times, either! If it were possible back in Bible times, it would still be possible now.
The term, "son of God", in the Bible, sometimes refers to humans, and sometimes to Jesus, and sometimes to evil angels.
Rom 8:14
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
KJV
Matt 14:33
33 Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.
KJV
Job 1:6
6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
KJV
Giantism is a disorder that still happens in modern times - it is a genetic disorder, rare.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigantism
The term, "son of God", in the Bible, sometimes refers to humans, and sometimes to Jesus, and sometimes to evil angels.
Rom 8:14
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
KJV
Matt 14:33
33 Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.
KJV
Job 1:6
6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
KJV
Giantism is a disorder that still happens in modern times - it is a genetic disorder, rare.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigantism
《The book of Enoch》I don't know the authenticity of the book,To know is to know, not to know is not to know, this is what I know
This is my restoration of the ark, if people don't know god and bible ,Think about marriage,The first love we come across comes from parents, then husbands, wives, and friends.So are these things crimes or sins? (I think no.)
Are the sons of God (or angels) guilty of marrying a human woman?(I think no)
So what's the reason for God to start a flood ? (I guess it's probably the same as the world today or maybe as the 《The book of Enoch》said)
And I have an idea From my understanding of the whole Bible, the whole bible means LIFE NOT SIN.(IT'S A BOOK OF LIFE,NOT A BOOK OF SIN)
Genesis 2:16
And the LORD God commanded the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden;
Genesis 2:17
but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die."
the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
Ten Commandments for nomal life
what if everyone don't break the Ten Commandments ,we will have a nomal life just as the original image of the ark.
That's what life really means NO GOOD AND EVIL JUST NOMAL, A NOMAL LIFE
What broke the first one Commandment , I think people make their own rules, and use their own rules to determine "good or bad"
That's NOT nomal LIFE. IT'S ALL ABOUT "GOOD AND BAD"
As the Bible says, the all world is guilty (We are really dead,cuz our sin)
Since the birth of Jesus Christ,the law of rule is love,that's the key
Love your neighbor as yourself.
Love your enemies
Pray for your enemies
It's not about defining good and evil at all
It's about how to redefine love,God's love Through Jesus Christ
(Proverbs 10:12 Hatred stirs up dissension, but love covers over all wrongs.)
Heaven is like a man who falls in love with life and love
This is my restoration of the ark, if people don't know god and bible ,Think about marriage,The first love we come across comes from parents, then husbands, wives, and friends.So are these things crimes or sins? (I think no.)
Are the sons of God (or angels) guilty of marrying a human woman?(I think no)
So what's the reason for God to start a flood ? (I guess it's probably the same as the world today or maybe as the 《The book of Enoch》said)
And I have an idea From my understanding of the whole Bible, the whole bible means LIFE NOT SIN.(IT'S A BOOK OF LIFE,NOT A BOOK OF SIN)
Genesis 2:16
And the LORD God commanded the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden;
Genesis 2:17
but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die."
the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
Ten Commandments for nomal life
what if everyone don't break the Ten Commandments ,we will have a nomal life just as the original image of the ark.
That's what life really means NO GOOD AND EVIL JUST NOMAL, A NOMAL LIFE
What broke the first one Commandment , I think people make their own rules, and use their own rules to determine "good or bad"
That's NOT nomal LIFE. IT'S ALL ABOUT "GOOD AND BAD"
As the Bible says, the all world is guilty (We are really dead,cuz our sin)
Since the birth of Jesus Christ,the law of rule is love,that's the key
Love your neighbor as yourself.
Love your enemies
Pray for your enemies
It's not about defining good and evil at all
It's about how to redefine love,God's love Through Jesus Christ
(Proverbs 10:12 Hatred stirs up dissension, but love covers over all wrongs.)
Heaven is like a man who falls in love with life and love
God's love is conditional . Three things that make up God.
God is Love. God is Spirit. God is light.
He is not a man . He is here reigning in the heats of believers .Some are waiting for flesh and blood for another demonstration of the unseen work of God working in his prophet apostle Jesus In a hope as a lying wonder that God is a man.
What some call the second coming .It describes the last day when His eternal Spirit leaves the corrupted creation behind. Up in smoke .
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It is something I have been looking at . Job 1:6 does not call Satan a son of God. He came also among them. .Accompanying his lying spirit. The accuser of the brethren accuses us day and night. Accompanied the believers prayer request (golden bowl). . It helps us to learn how to pray being aware of the lies as wiles from the father of lies .
God would never call a lying spirit. . . son of God. More of the son of the devil
( Gold the measure of faith)
Revelation 8:3 And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.
Well said! However, in the case of the witch of Endor bringing up the Spirit of Samuel - it appears to me that it was Samuel's spirit that spoke to her. Though I also believe all who die in the Lord - their spirits automatically go to heaven. But maybe God allowed Samuel's spirit to say what he said to Saul - whether he said it from heaven or from being temporarily brought down to speak with the woman in this case - I don't know. It's true the woman's sin of calling up his spirit was a grave sin against God. But since Saul had chosen to go ahead with this evil, God chose to reply to him through Samuel. And what Samuel predicted would happen to Saul - did happen - Saul soon afterwards died in battle.
Another odd situation in the Bible, in which a deceased man of God's body caused ( I mean, God had to have caused it to happen, as only God is capable of miracles) a dead man's body to come alive, is found here:
2 Kings 13:21
21 And it came to pass, as they were burying a man, that, behold, they spied a band of men; and they cast the man into the sepulchre of Elisha: and when the man was let down, and touched the bones of Elisha, he revived, and stood up on his feet.
KJV
Another odd situation in the Bible, in which a deceased man of God's body caused ( I mean, God had to have caused it to happen, as only God is capable of miracles) a dead man's body to come alive, is found here:
2 Kings 13:21
21 And it came to pass, as they were burying a man, that, behold, they spied a band of men; and they cast the man into the sepulchre of Elisha: and when the man was let down, and touched the bones of Elisha, he revived, and stood up on his feet.
KJV