When did I ever say that all men are saved? I said that God desires that all men should be saved because that is what the Bible teaches whether you or anybody else likes it or not:
"I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time." (I Timothy 2:1-6)
God's will is that all men would be saved and He gave Jesus Christ as a ransom for all. Of course, you and others, thinking yourselves to be wiser than God and His apostle, would have us to believe that God doesn't will for all to be saved and that Jesus wasn't given as a ransom for all either. No, according to your error, God only wants those whom He allegedly hand-picked before the foundation of the world for salvation to be saved and the rest can literally go to hell. If this is your god, then your god is the devil. I also stated that God is not willing that any should perish because the Bible states that as well:
"The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." (II Peter 3:9)
Whereas the Bible tells us that God is not willing that any should perish, you, again, thinking yourself to be wiser than God and His apostle, would have us to believe that God is not only willing that the majority of people who have ever walked upon the face of this earth should perish, but that He predestined them to such and actually created them for such without any choice of their own or without them ever having had a chance to be saved to begin with. Again, your god is the devil.
God truly does draw ALL MEN unto Himself, but men, through their own volition in exercising their God-given free wills, have the right to reject God's gracious offer of salvation even as the Bible teaches throughout its pages. Jesus stated how His will was to have oftentimes gathered the children of Israel unto Himself, BUT THEY WOULD NOT! That's just one of so many examples that when you tell me that you've studied this out in scripture I have a tremendously hard time believing you. Rather, I suspect that you've been brainwashed by the likes of Calvin and Sproul and then you've gone and read your Bible with rose colored glasses on to make the scriptures say what you've been conditioned into believing that they should say.
Anyhow, I'm really not going to waste anymore time arguing with you or certain others. I'll periodically address certain things just so that others here aren't potentially deceived, but my primary focus will be upon MPW because she started this thread. If she's not interested in me doing the same, then she already knows that she only needs to say the same to me and I'll be on my merry way away from this discussion altogether.
Jesus likened Christianity to that of a Father Who is making a marriage supper for His Son and instructing His servants to go out into the highways and the byways to "compel" people to come in. I'm guessing that you understand that to mean that God sanctions the unwilling abduction of His bride, the forceful raping or implanting of His "seed" which immediately follows and then the imprisonment of the same against her will since that is the type of god whom you and others here preach and worse still you'd have us to believe that this god IS LOVE!
If you have any daughters, friend, then I pray that no man ever shows up and tells you that he's planning on "loving" one of your daughters in the manner in which you and others here claim that your god loves. Send such a fellow near my house and near one of my two daughters and he'd better be enrolled in Obamacare.
she has been looking at this for a while and yep she won't just "believe" what you say unless you have 100% proof of your view Biblically. You have not proven anything you have said thus far without picking and choosing and taking Bible verses out of context. MPW might be questioning "predestination" but you are missing one thing in her question...she is much smarter and Biblically grounded than you take her for. She knows much more than she gives herself credit for. In fact I know she understands God's Word much better than you do. So again..good luck "swaying" her to your belief.