ARE WE THERE YET? 666

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I didnt notice i could do that lol. NOT TOO TECH SAVVY! Thanks

Im reading through it. Its AMAZING how much we agree, we've never met nor discussed these things in depth.

Your conclusions are nearly identical to the ones I came to when I just read the scriptures on my own with NO COMMENTARIES or listening to no pastors or anything. Just "plain reading of the text". I know that gets thrown around alot, but i truly tried my best to be unbiased and just read it and believe it for what it says.

I kind of backed off on being dogmatic on what I found out, because I noticed NONE of the pastors or preachers I listened to taught the same, which is why im still in the undecided camp. Obviously even great pastors can be wrong on some areas, but WHO AM I to be right?
The truth is the truth and honesty with the verbiage will lead ALL to the same conclusions IMV
 
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And my Interpretation keeps it SIMPLE.
The bible does talk of the simplicity found in Christ.....take the word at face value unless context dictates other wise.....child like faith to believe and acknowledge.....exactly why many miss the truths of the bible.....
 

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You believe anyone who has a debit card has recieved the mark of the beast? (sorry if I misunderstood you)
If it is then were all pretty much of in need of Revelation 15:2 right ? And why is that(I'll use me as an example) I am 100% disabled so every penny I receive is sent to a bank account and if I want it I go to the bank and make a withdrawal(cash) but some places wont take it. My wife has a debit card(I wont use it,lol) but she is bone of my bone flesh of my flesh so either way I may as well be using it right?

But yes I think it is a number that is equal to my name that I have wisdom of( no one else calculated it but me), it is in my forehead(memorized pin number) that is entered into the keypad(E-signature) used to buy and sell with and is the number of a man(me).

That's why it's so touchy to talk about I suppose in that if it is then anyone who agrees that it is has to admit that they use it to pay their lights water and gas bill. If they want an isp to so they can chat with me here on CC then they dial the number,go through the menu and enter the number of their name. If they want their irs, same thing. Or we can pick up the remote and change the channel to a station where they say it's way back in ad70 or in the future(just not us.lol) and not open our wallets and examine how we actually buy and sell.
 

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I think we have all seen this coming, and have turned a blind eye to it. All we need now is our ACCOUNT NUMBER.

When they OUTLAW COINAGE such as GOLD OR SILVER, HOW do they get us to turn our GOLD OR SILVER in ? ? ?

Just mention after such and such of a DATE they will all become WORTHLESS.

Taxable commodities ,Gold,silver cryptocurrency ect. https://www.forbes.com/sites/baldwi...ities-and-commodity-funds-taxed/#11183df178df https://ethereumworldnews.com/cryptocurrencies-are-commodities-says-u-s-federal-judge/
 

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I think we have all seen this coming, and have turned a blind eye to it. All we need now is our ACCOUNT NUMBER.

When they OUTLAW COINAGE such as GOLD OR SILVER, HOW do they get us to turn our GOLD OR SILVER in ? ? ?

Just mention after such and such of a DATE they will all become WORTHLESS.
Nothing new under the sun, son! :p
 
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Seems like a lot of speculation on a lot of peoples part.
A saint will never take the mark, so why worry.
 

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The number 666 is not a secret code to those who believe the Bible. And now it is not even secret to unbelievers. However it is an identifier of the Antichrist (the number of a man and the number of his name) as well as an indicator that the one with that mark belongs to Satan and the Antichrist. Just as God places a seal on the foreheads of His servants, the Antichrist places a seal on the right hand or forehead of his slaves (the ones under His rule and thumb).

Since there are billions worldwide who will be marked this, that number cannot be limited to six digits. However it may start with 666. So the code for each individual will probably appear as 666xxxxxxAxxxxxxBxxxxxxC.

Also it should be noted that Greek letters of the alphabet are also used to represent numbers. Therefore the Greek equivalent of 666 is χξς.That is Chi, Xi, and stigma (not sigma). The actual numerical values are 600, 60, and 6, for a total of six hundred and sixty six.

We know that stigma has a negative connotation, so 666 is a stigma for each one who takes that mark.

In papyrus 115 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papyrus_115#/media/File:P._Oxy._LXVI_4499.jpg in the third line is Eta looks like our upper case "H" in Alexandrian text type(upper case instead of lower case letters) and then Chi, and then "Iota"...

In Against Heresies book 1,chapter 3,paragraph 2 Irenaeus explains that Valentinus(and his disciples/Gnostic) had written commentaries (see preface paragraph 2,line 12) as they call them and were using the Greek letters of the name of Jesus(in Greek) and had changed the "Iota and Eta" in the Commentary. He(Irenaeus) doesn't mention this again until AH book 5...

AH book 5,chapter 30(XXX) paragraph 1,line 10 http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/irenaeus-book5.html

In Revelation 13:18 the word directly preceding the number (666) is autou=strongs #846 and so "H'(upper case Eta) also should not be in the fragment(P115) if it is Revelation 13:18 https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/13-18.htm

This was found in a "rubbish dump" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxyrhynchus_Papyri and if considered scripture would not have been in a dump but placed in a "genizah"(see Hebrew word) if it were considered scripture at that time so it is imo, probably one of Valentinus commentaries considering the evidence.
 

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Until some one figures out the head that received the deadly wound and was in the pit in Revelation 17:8 then no one will see who it was who said let us make an image of it and set it up to be worshiped or understand it's name or how they buy and sell with it's mark.
 
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TECHNOLOGY NEEDED TO FULFILL THE MARK OF THE BEAST





No 666 is not a symbol, it is only a number that identifies a man, IT SAYS SO, read it again.

In other words it is similar to our Social Security numbers. Only this one will be three groups of 6 digits. Henry Kissenger invented such a EMERGENCY plan in the late 90s, in case the perceived Y2K world wide banking crash actually happened. Since it is the computer age, it probably will be a number imbedded in a very small microchip or biochip as they want to call those designed for humans. They are already testing the (RFID) Radio Frequency Identification Devices in humans in Florida. In particular, for Seniors with Alzheimer's to store their health records on. Instead of the chip that was about twice the size of a grain of rice, like the one in my dog's neck; they have now shrunk the RFID down to not a whole lot bigger than a grain of salt. I posted the following on another site a couple years ago, so the technology is even more advanced now. I added two links at the bottom very recently, in fact that second to the bottom link was dated 20 Nov. 2013 and has a picture of the world's fastest super computer, which doubled the size and speed of the previous record holder. Those two links show that the world really does computers big enough and fast enough acomodate all the worlds bank accounts, and the fact that RFID readers are already starting to show up in stores, should make us sit up and take notice that the stage is set and the time could be very near.






WHAT IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST



The most likely thing the Mark of the Beast could be is a biochip implant, because of the Biblical statement that one will not be able to buy or sell anything without it. They currently have built into them up to a 15 digit ID numbering system. It will not surprise me, (if the Church is still here), when the Antichrist comes to power as the Head of State of the old Roman Empire; that he averts a world wide economic collapse by converting all of the worlds monitary systems and bank accounts to function like credit cards in the form of these implanted biochips. AND watch him add a number to all three hyphenated groups of numbers stored in those Biochip IDs, such as: 123456-123456-123456. Hence his number will be 666 (6 digits dash 6 digits dash 6 digits). Also some of the Techs working on these super computers that they believe we are going to need in the near future, have jokingly referred to their super computers as the "beast"; but I am not laughing.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSmr-yuLLr4

http://www.wanttoknow.info/microchipimplants
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=21944

http://www.engineering.com/Designer...ID/6676/Tianhe-2-Tops-Supercomputer-List.aspx


666 is the number assigned to natural unconverted man (beast of the field) as one who receives no rest from hearing the gospel . The mark of Cain . He refused to buy the spiritual truth of the gospel and in effect like Esau sold out the work of God by which he could believe... seeing no value in believing God not seen..

Proverbs 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.

It is not a warning as if it was some sort of sanction that the world has set to starve those who do believe the gospel or take away something. The idea of chips planted is a new age doctrine they make electronics the new smart God .
 

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lol, Some how or another were gonna need to explain to the beast that if they worship his image then he spiritually killed them and he don't need to physically kill the others for not worshiping his image like Revelation 13:15 says he does. And then we need to convince the Lord that since they were spiritually dead because they worshiped the image he don't need to physically kill them like Revelation 19:21 says....

It's like the chicken and the egg if their spiritually dead for worshiping the image their gonna physically die in Rev.19: 21 and if they don't spiritually die by worshiping his image he(the beast) will physically kill them in Rev. 13:15....
 

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Pay close ATTENTION TO THIS:


This is from Yeshua (GOD):

Matthew 24:
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25 Behold, I have told you before.

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.



VERSE 21 = TRIBULATION BEGINS

VERSE 22 = DAYS BE SHORTENED FOR THE ELECTS SAKE = this means we will be here for the BEGINNING

VERSE 23-26 = BEWARE OF FALSE CHRIST'S AND PROPHETS DURING THE TRIBULATION

VERSE 27 = SPEAKS HOW WE KNOW GOD IS RETURNING LIKE LIGHTNING FROM EAST TO WEST

VERSE 29 = TRIBULATION ENDS - SUN DARKENS - MOON TURNS TO BLOOD - STARS FALL FROM HEAVEN

VERSE 30 = SECOND COMING OF CHRIST (notice: it's after Tribulation ends and the sun darkens, moon to blood, stars fall)

VERSE 31 - THE ANGELS WILL GATHER THE ELECT (this is our "rapture")


So, according to GOD, the SAVED (ELECT) will go through ALL 7 YEARS of Tribulation.
At the end of that 7 year Tribulation, Yeshua returns like lightning from the East to the West and then the angels will gather the remaining SAVED (ELECT).

WE ARE GOING THROUGH THE TRIBULATION!!

This is why threads like this are EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. Because it gives us time to prepare. If Tribulation began tomorrow, I am aware of the RFID CHIP, I am aware of what is going to happen during the Tribulation, I am aware when the sun darkens-moon turns to blood-stars fall...Yeshua is on His way to get me (if I am still alive).

But this thread gives those who are just READING valuable information they can keep in knowledge if they are here when Tribulation begins!!


Pay close attention to this:

The ELECT is TRIBULATION Saints and some say the Old Testament Saints.

Revelation 3:10 (NCV)
10 You have obeyed my teaching about not giving up your faith. So I will keep you from the time of trouble that will come to the whole world to test those who live on earth.

1 Thessalonians 5:9 (ESV)
9 For God has not destined us for wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ,


GOD never changes:


Malachi 3:6 (HCSB)
6 Because I, Yahweh, have not changed,
you descendants of Jacob have not been destroyed.


HE GOT HIS PEOPLE OUT TO A PLACE OF SAFETY WHEN HE POURED OUT HIS WRATH IN A FORM OF A FLOOD, and placed them IN THE ARK.

GOD WILL GET US OUT TO A PLACE OF SAFETY, AT THE WEDDING OF THE LAMB IN HEAVEN, BEFORE HE POURS OUT HIS WRATH ON THE WHOLE WORLD.

Revelation 6:15-17 (HCSB)
15 Then the kings of the earth, the nobles, the military commanders, the rich, the powerful, and every slave and free person hid in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains.
16 And they said to the mountains and to the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of the One seated on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb,
17 because the great day of Their wrath has come! And who is able to stand?”




The RAPTURE is separate from the SECOND COMING, and HE IS PROOF:

Matthew 24:27 (NASB)
27 "For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be.


It is going to happen that FAST, when the SON OF MAN (NOT KING OF KINGS) comes for HIS BRIDE.

Revelation 19:11-21 (NASB)
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse, and He who sat on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and wages war.
12 His eyes are a flame of fire, and on His head are many diadems; and He has a name written on Him which no one knows except Himself.
13 He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which are in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, were following Him on white horses.
15 From His mouth comes a sharp sword, so that with it He may strike down the nations, and He will rule them with a rod of iron; and He treads the wine press of the fierce wrath of God, the Almighty.
16 And on His robe and on His thigh He has a name written, "KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS."
17 Then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and he cried out with a loud voice, saying to all the birds which fly in midheaven, "Come, assemble for the great supper of God,
18 so that you may eat the flesh of kings and the flesh of commanders and the flesh of mighty men and the flesh of horses and of those who sit on them and the flesh of all men, both free men and slaves, and small and great."
19 And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies assembled to make war against Him who sat on the horse and against His army.
20 And the beast was seized, and with him the false prophet who performed the signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image; these two were thrown alive into the lake of fire which burns with brimstone.
21 And the rest were killed with the sword which came from the mouth of Him who sat on the horse, and all the birds were filled with their flesh.


NOW THERE IS THE SECOND COMING, BUT NOTICE IT HAPPENS VERY SLOWLY.
It happens so slowly that all of the Armies of the whole earth have time to gather at the Valley of Megiddo, north of JERUSALEM, and they KNOW WHY THEY ARE THERE, TO STOP CHRIST.

NO ONE KNOWS THE DAY OR THE HOUR, can only refer to the RAPTURE.

Matthew 25:13 (NKJV)
13 Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour in which the Son of Man is coming.


There is that expression again. The SON OF MAN comes for a BRIDE, and that is a different time than when the KING OF KINGS comes to make WAR on SATAN and all of GOD'S ENEMIES. It is as plain as the nose on your face.

You are welcome to stay if you want to, but before Tribulation BEGINS, I already have a invite to the WEDDING OF THE LAMB.

If you are interested, I did a study a long time ago on that very subject: https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...bride-to-go-to-the-wedding-of-the-lamb.95283/
 
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The mark of the beast has to do with technology, for the beast's agenda is there is no personal God to help mankind, but mankind's technology, and devices, can help to solve the problems on earth, and cut down on crime.

The mark will keep track of all the citizens of the world, will be the one world economic system, be used for identification, and be put under the skin of the right hand, or forehead, which is representative of the beast being their authority, which Jesus is at the right hand of the saints, and His name shall be in their forehead at the New Jerusalem.

Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

chi xi stigma
khee xee stig'-ma
The 22nd, 14th and an obsolete letter (G4742 as a cross) of the Greek alphabet (intermediate between the 5th and 6th), used as numbers; denoting respectively 600, 60 and 6; 666 as a numeral: - six hundred threescore and six.

stigma
stig'-mah
From a primary word στίζω stizō (to “stick”, that is, prick); a mark incised or punched (for recognition of ownership), that is, (figuratively) scar of service: - mark.

The logical explanation would be a microchip placed under the skin with a hypodermic needle, to stick, prick, for recognition of one's ownership, identification of the person.

All information about them will be placed on the chip, including financial records, with no cash to deal with which will cut down on crime.

The whole earth will be gridded, and they will know of everyone's location on earth, and if a crime happens they will know who was in the area, and how close they were to the crime scene, which will cut down on crime, and find lost children, which we see on the internet, and elsewhere that they are pointing that out a lot.

And Trump introduced the chip for those on temporary visas, for he said if they had that implemented it could of prevented 9/11, and Clinton said when he was president that he wanted those that had a gun registered to them to have a chip, so only they can fire the weapon, and no one else.

And no one can buy, or sell anything, without the chip, for it is cash for them as all finances are now electronic by way of computer, so they will not want to get rid of it, and will keep it despite them being known where they are at.

The mark of the beast appears to be the microchip, and will be like a GPS tracking system for humans.

Also the number 666 is the number of a man, a certain man, the man of sin, New Age Christ, for he will be of the occult, and does not acknowledge a personal God, but honors the God of forces, or the power of nature as his higher power, for he believes in evolution, and people can still evolve, which he convinces the world that he evolved through nature.

The occult believes in the power of numbers, and the grouping, multiplying, and adding of numbers, which they believe will give them more power through nature, and 6 is the number of a man, so the man of sin assigned the number 666, a triple 6 to himself, believing it will give him more power, and a greater chance of his kingdom prospering.

When the world follows the beast, and takes his mark, they are saying it is all about mankind with no higher authority above them, and has made it international law not to preach the Gospel, or a personal god, so then repentance, and salvation, are no longer available to them, and God can then end this sin business on earth, which He must do one day.

The beast kingdom took away the hope of the world, as the nations came together and stopped anything preached contrary to the new age movement, and evolution.
 
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Pay close attention to this:

The ELECT is TRIBULATION Saints and some say the Old Testament Saints.

Revelation 3:10 (NCV)
10 You have obeyed my teaching about not giving up your faith. So I will keep you from the time of trouble that will come to the whole world to test those who live on earth.

1 Thessalonians 5:9 (ESV)
9 For God has not destined us for wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ,


GOD never changes:


Malachi 3:6 (HCSB)
6 Because I, Yahweh, have not changed,
you descendants of Jacob have not been destroyed.


HE GOT HIS PEOPLE OUT TO A PLACE OF SAFETY WHEN HE POURED OUT HIS WRATH IN A FORM OF A FLOOD, and placed them IN THE ARK.

GOD WILL GET US OUT TO A PLACE OF SAFETY, AT THE WEDDING OF THE LAMB IN HEAVEN, BEFORE HE POURS OUT HIS WRATH ON THE WHOLE WORLD.

Revelation 6:15-17 (HCSB)
15 Then the kings of the earth, the nobles, the military commanders, the rich, the powerful, and every slave and free person hid in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains.
16 And they said to the mountains and to the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of the One seated on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb,
17 because the great day of Their wrath has come! And who is able to stand?”




The RAPTURE is separate from the SECOND COMING, and HE IS PROOF:

Matthew 24:27 (NASB)
27 "For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be.


It is going to happen that FAST, when the SON OF MAN (NOT KING OF KINGS) comes for HIS BRIDE.

Revelation 19:11-21 (NASB)
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse, and He who sat on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and wages war.
12 His eyes are a flame of fire, and on His head are many diadems; and He has a name written on Him which no one knows except Himself.
13 He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which are in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, were following Him on white horses.
15 From His mouth comes a sharp sword, so that with it He may strike down the nations, and He will rule them with a rod of iron; and He treads the wine press of the fierce wrath of God, the Almighty.
16 And on His robe and on His thigh He has a name written, "KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS."
17 Then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and he cried out with a loud voice, saying to all the birds which fly in midheaven, "Come, assemble for the great supper of God,
18 so that you may eat the flesh of kings and the flesh of commanders and the flesh of mighty men and the flesh of horses and of those who sit on them and the flesh of all men, both free men and slaves, and small and great."
19 And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies assembled to make war against Him who sat on the horse and against His army.
20 And the beast was seized, and with him the false prophet who performed the signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image; these two were thrown alive into the lake of fire which burns with brimstone.
21 And the rest were killed with the sword which came from the mouth of Him who sat on the horse, and all the birds were filled with their flesh.


NOW THERE IS THE SECOND COMING, BUT NOTICE IT HAPPENS VERY SLOWLY.
It happens so slowly that all of the Armies of the whole earth have time to gather at the Valley of Megiddo, north of JERUSALEM, and they KNOW WHY THEY ARE THERE, TO STOP CHRIST.

NO ONE KNOWS THE DAY OR THE HOUR, can only refer to the RAPTURE.

Matthew 25:13 (NKJV)
13 Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour in which the Son of Man is coming.


There is that expression again. The SON OF MAN comes for a BRIDE, and that is a different time than when the KING OF KINGS comes to make WAR on SATAN and all of GOD'S ENEMIES. It is as plain as the nose on your face.

You are welcome to stay if you want to, but before Tribulation BEGINS, I already have a invite to the WEDDING OF THE LAMB.

If you are interested, I did a study a long time ago on that very subject: https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...bride-to-go-to-the-wedding-of-the-lamb.95283/
Study the word KEEP from the Greek..it does not mean remove...........the King James has led more people astray then Carter has pills.....!!

Seriously.....HONESTLY study the word KEEP......it means to protect from harm or LOSS, to GUARD....NOT REMOVE!
 

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...the King James has led more people astray then Carter has pills.....!!
Yet Christians regarded it as the very Word of God for over 300 years!

Therefore according to you they were all deceived until Westcott & Hort came along with their fantasies.

Christians, stick with the tried and true Bible which was used by God to bring millions to Christ over centuries of time.
 

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In the depression when money crumbled boys plowed behind mules from sun up till sun down for a dime a day. For seventy cents you could feed a family for a week. It takes about eighty acres to farm if you know where to plant fodder and have it cross fenced for live stock. If you put fresh milk in a mason jar and tie a string around it and run it down a well it will keep four or five days but you will develop a taste for buttermilk in the end.

A smoke house will let you keep meat if you have sugar cure if not pack it in salt wrapped in cheesecloth and hang it under the porch in the winter. Cotton twine soaked in borax and a little salt will make a candle wick not flicker. You'll need both a hot water bath cooker and a pressure cooker if you can the vegetables you grow and the meat when you butcher something. A hand pump will only pump water from twenty five to thirty five feet at the most.

In the old days before the government took the farms away from the ones who inherited them from their forefathers they could say take your mark and go fly a kite and anyone who knew this sort of stuff could raise chickens and grow tomatoes and eat. It takes three or four acres per person to raise and grow enough food to stay alive. So if you add a mule or cows and plan on growing enough for you and them it depends on how many people and animals per acre and so you need eighty to a hundred acres if there are seven people in your family or you will starve to death. Oh, I and I should add if you know how to farm to this,lol

If the boogeyman,el cucuy, el coco ect. decides to do this tomorrow then first things first. When they turn off the water it will dawn on you that living the fancy life with ac and cars have polluted most of the creeks and rivers. Then you will need to go out on the patio in your apartment and decide how you will set up your garden. Some of you will be lucky and have a house with a cyclone fence and a sixty by one twenty lot and be able to grow more food than the ones with an eight by twelve apartment patio.

When that all sinks in the ones who lived in the city will head for the woods and try their best to figure out how to hunt and fish but will end up running across those who grew up there and already knew how and either try to take the deer and fish from them or they will be faced with a mass depopulation of wildlife. Or I guess some might cave and take the mark.
 
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Pay close attention to this:

The ELECT is TRIBULATION Saints and some say the Old Testament Saints.

Revelation 3:10 (NCV)
10 You have obeyed my teaching about not giving up your faith. So I will keep you from the time of trouble that will come to the whole world to test those who live on earth.

1 Thessalonians 5:9 (ESV)
9 For God has not destined us for wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ,


GOD never changes:


Malachi 3:6 (HCSB)
6 Because I, Yahweh, have not changed,
you descendants of Jacob have not been destroyed.


HE GOT HIS PEOPLE OUT TO A PLACE OF SAFETY WHEN HE POURED OUT HIS WRATH IN A FORM OF A FLOOD, and placed them IN THE ARK.

GOD WILL GET US OUT TO A PLACE OF SAFETY, AT THE WEDDING OF THE LAMB IN HEAVEN, BEFORE HE POURS OUT HIS WRATH ON THE WHOLE WORLD.

Revelation 6:15-17 (HCSB)
15 Then the kings of the earth, the nobles, the military commanders, the rich, the powerful, and every slave and free person hid in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains.
16 And they said to the mountains and to the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of the One seated on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb,
17 because the great day of Their wrath has come! And who is able to stand?”




The RAPTURE is separate from the SECOND COMING, and HE IS PROOF:

Matthew 24:27 (NASB)
27 "For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be.


It is going to happen that FAST, when the SON OF MAN (NOT KING OF KINGS) comes for HIS BRIDE.

Revelation 19:11-21 (NASB)
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse, and He who sat on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and wages war.
12 His eyes are a flame of fire, and on His head are many diadems; and He has a name written on Him which no one knows except Himself.
13 He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which are in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, were following Him on white horses.
15 From His mouth comes a sharp sword, so that with it He may strike down the nations, and He will rule them with a rod of iron; and He treads the wine press of the fierce wrath of God, the Almighty.
16 And on His robe and on His thigh He has a name written, "KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS."
17 Then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and he cried out with a loud voice, saying to all the birds which fly in midheaven, "Come, assemble for the great supper of God,
18 so that you may eat the flesh of kings and the flesh of commanders and the flesh of mighty men and the flesh of horses and of those who sit on them and the flesh of all men, both free men and slaves, and small and great."
19 And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies assembled to make war against Him who sat on the horse and against His army.
20 And the beast was seized, and with him the false prophet who performed the signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image; these two were thrown alive into the lake of fire which burns with brimstone.
21 And the rest were killed with the sword which came from the mouth of Him who sat on the horse, and all the birds were filled with their flesh.


NOW THERE IS THE SECOND COMING, BUT NOTICE IT HAPPENS VERY SLOWLY.
It happens so slowly that all of the Armies of the whole earth have time to gather at the Valley of Megiddo, north of JERUSALEM, and they KNOW WHY THEY ARE THERE, TO STOP CHRIST.

NO ONE KNOWS THE DAY OR THE HOUR, can only refer to the RAPTURE.

Matthew 25:13 (NKJV)
13 Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour in which the Son of Man is coming.


There is that expression again. The SON OF MAN comes for a BRIDE, and that is a different time than when the KING OF KINGS comes to make WAR on SATAN and all of GOD'S ENEMIES. It is as plain as the nose on your face.

You are welcome to stay if you want to, but before Tribulation BEGINS, I already have a invite to the WEDDING OF THE LAMB.

If you are interested, I did a study a long time ago on that very subject: https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...bride-to-go-to-the-wedding-of-the-lamb.95283/


Yeshua allowed His own Disciples to be tortured and murdered. We are not even as special as the Disciples were, even though we are part of the same Bride. Someone has to be in God and with God to bring sinners to salvation during the Tribulation. Us going through the Tribulation does not change a single word and meaning you have posted from scripture.

The Disciples (Apostle's then) were more than tested by the Roman's who tortured them and killed them all but one (John). There is no reason for us to believe that we should not also be tested by going through the Tribulation. If you were born and raised in the United States, we have never been without or ever tested concerning anything. But Tribulation will indeed test us!!
 

Jackson123

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I do not know the time( the time when mark of the beast happen) but the technology to SUPPORT the mark of the beast is there, the sign of His coming is happening.

The bible talking abou war that kill 1/3 world population,

100 years ago Seem impossible now we have nuclear.

All above convince me Jesus is about to come. Time for prepare, learn to be Holy, forget worldliness.

We Will lose all we have, I do not care If you have million dollar house, when you not able to buy or sale, you lose It all. When you chose to take the mark, you Will lose your trillion dollar house in heaven.

It time to prepare live simple live, when the time come, we not able to buy and sale, we fasting till God call us home.
 

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Yeshua allowed His own Disciples to be tortured and murdered. We are not even as special as the Disciples were, even though we are part of the same Bride. Someone has to be in God and with God to bring sinners to salvation during the Tribulation. Us going through the Tribulation does not change a single word and meaning you have posted from scripture.

The Disciples (Apostle's then) were more than tested by the Roman's who tortured them and killed them all but one (John). There is no reason for us to believe that we should not also be tested by going through the Tribulation. If you were born and raised in the United States, we have never been without or ever tested concerning anything. But Tribulation will indeed test us!!
Yep, in the middle east or other muslim country, the tribulation for the believer is always happen.

But there Will be worse tribulation in the last seven years before His coming. I hope God give me strength to start prepare now.
 

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666 is the number assigned to natural unconverted man (beast of the field) as one who receives no rest from hearing the gospel . The mark of Cain . He refused to buy the spiritual truth of the gospel and in effect like Esau sold out the work of God by which he could believe... seeing no value in believing God not seen..

Proverbs 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.

It is not a warning as if it was some sort of sanction that the world has set to starve those who do believe the gospel or take away something. The idea of chips planted is a new age doctrine they make electronics the new smart God .


It will be a MASTER COMPUTERIZED BANK ACCOUNT, controlled by ONE SUPER COMPUTER, IMO.