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FlSnookman7

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actually I think he is correct in this. You know I look in the mirror everyday and everyday I feel like I am looking at a total stranger I don't recognize the person I see in the mirror and can't even look in my own eyes for to long before turning away because I feel like I am staring at a different person and it becomes awkward.
This didn't beginto happen until I began to try to believe who God says I am and perhaps this is why I only see a stranger in the mirror because when i see the person I used to see when I looked in the mirror I only saw a loser an ugly person a filthy wretched worm but then when I think of what God would say of me or see when he looks at me what he thinks when he thinks of me it's the exact opposite
I may have come off as rude or arrogant, if so my apologies. I did not mean to seem like I was attacking you on a personal level even though we disagree on things.
 
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Hmmm, let's see now, oh I don't know, maybe its because . . .

GOD CALLED HER AND SHE RESPONDED WITH FAITH AND LOVE.

What a stupid comment posed towards a person who loves the Lord.
My question was an earnest one ... not an attack.

It was meant to direct to the question at hand ...

Whereas your post to me here is clearly an attack.

I forgive you ...
 
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actually I think he is correct in this. You know I look in the mirror everyday and everyday I feel like I am looking at a total stranger I don't recognize the person I see in the mirror and can't even look in my own eyes for to long before turning away because I feel like I am staring at a different person and it becomes awkward.
This didn't beginto happen until I began to try to believe who God says I am and perhaps this is why I only see a stranger in the mirror because when i see the person I used to see when I looked in the mirror I only saw a loser an ugly person a filthy wretched worm but then when I think of what God would say of me or see when he looks at me what he thinks when he thinks of me it's the exact opposite
There are mental disorders in which people experience the same thing you have described.
 
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This I posted a total of four times ... did you not even read what I wrote?
Our spirit IS in heaven and holy and perfect before God
Our soul is here still in the process of being sanctified.
"Our spirit IS in heaven and holy and perfect before God"

What do you mean by our spirit is in heaven? The term soul and spirit is often interchanged
in scripture, so they often mean the same thing. If this is the can it is impossible to have a
perfect spirit and have a sanctified soul.
 

Blain

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I may have come off as rude or arrogant, if so my apologies. I did not mean to seem like I was attacking you on a personal level even though we disagree on things.
I never thought you were attacking me so no worries disagreement in views and scriptures and the difference in understanding in no way makes us enemies it is only natural in discussion the bible and the things of God.
Even the closest brothers disagree and even the most intimate of two people married fight and throw chairs and the same is for us in Christ
 
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My thread is to tell people that if he or she does not keep God’s Commandments, and that includes not sinning, they are at best infants in Christ. One can’t be a Christian and also be of the devil. Apostle John told us if one sins he or she has never seen God, nor knows God.

(1 John 3:5-6) “Now you know that he appeared in order to abolish sin, and that in him there is no sin; anyone who lives in God does not sin, and anyone who sins has never seen him or known him.”

(1 Corinthians 3:1-3) “Brothers, I myself was unable to speak to you as people of the Spirit; I treated you as sensual men, still infants in Christ. What I fed you with was milk, not solid food, for you were not ready for it; and indeed, you are still not ready for it since you are still unspiritual. Isn’t that obvious from all the jealousy and wrangling that there is among you, from the way that you go on behaving like ordinary people?”
So how long has it been since you last sinned? Can I have your autograph?
 

FlSnookman7

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"Our spirit IS in heaven and holy and perfect before God"

What do you mean by our spirit is in heaven? The term soul and spirit is often interchanged
in scripture, so they often mean the same thing. If this is the can it is impossible to have a
perfect spirit and have a sanctified soul.
We are triune beings (flesh,soul and spirit).
 
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Ok i see now what this is about. It is about perfection. We are humans with a sinful nature. We cannot acheive a sinless perfection. Thank God for His saving grace! Just because we came to Christ does not meen we no longer sin. It meens that sin no longer drives our lives. We are no longer "slaves to sin". If becoming sinless was what we needed to be saved then we are all doomed. But because of the blood of Christ when we come before God, He will now see us as righteous because of the saving work of Christ and our accepting Him as Lord and Savior. I thank God for what He did for me because without it i would never be able to enter heaven. Without the grace of God not a single person would ever be able to enter glory with Him.
Dit, dot, dash, ballgame! God's saving grace in Jesus Christ Wins!!!!
 

Magenta

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Perhaps but I know God's voice
My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me.
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I am the good shepherd. I know My sheep and My sheep know Me
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The one who enters by the gate is the shepherd of the sheep. The gatekeeper opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen to his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all who are his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice.
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I am the gate. If anyone enters through Me, he will be saved. He will come in and go out and find pasture.
 
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Now that is arrogant and rude but from one who isn't saved not unexpected. Still praying for you.
It wasn't arrogant and rude at all. It's the truth. I didn't mean it towards Blain personally; just letting him know that such an unusual experience is not (necessarily) of GOD.
 
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We are a spirit, we have a soul and we live in a body. We need to have our beliefs on what the scriptures say - not in some humanistic understanding we get from the world that we make up in our own minds. This is one of the reasons that the new creation is a complete mystery to some.

This is also one of the reasons that people don't understand true righteousness that is in Christ and that the men man in Christ has been created in righteousness and holiness

1 Thessalonians 5:23 (KJV)
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And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.


Luke 1:46-47 (NASB)
[SUP]46 [/SUP] And Mary said: "My soul exalts the Lord,

[SUP]47 [/SUP] And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior.


Hebrews 4:12 (KJV)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart
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NO! A Christian is a Child of God, and cannot sin. A way to understand that is to know that if a Child of God deliberately commits a sin he or she will never be a child of God again.

(Hebrews 10:26-31) “If, after we have been given knowledge of the truth, we should deliberately commit any sins, then there is no longer any sacrifice for them. There is left only the dreadful prospect of judgment and of the fiery wrath that is to devour your enemies. Anyone who disregards the Law of Moses is ruthlessly put to death on the word of two witnesses or three; and you may be sure that anyone who tramples on the Son of God, and who treats the blood of the covenant which sanctified him as if it were not holy, and who insults the Spirit of grace, will be condemned to a far severer punishment. We are all aware who it was that said: Vengeance is mine; I will vindicate his people. It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.”
What I like about you is that love just exudes from every one of your posts. Or maybe its control and fear mongering, hmmm, let me see now, love or fear mongering, decisions, decisions.

And another thing, you're not 81 years old. You're way too childish and not even remotely close to representing the long-standing maturity of an 81 year old. That makes you deceitful; a deceitful sinner.
 
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If I speak in the tongues[SUP][a][/SUP] of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. [SUP]2 [/SUP]If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. [SUP]3 [/SUP]If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast,[SUP][b][/SUP] but do not have love, I gain nothing.[SUP]4 [/SUP]Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. [SUP]5 [/SUP]It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. [SUP]6 [/SUP]Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. [SUP]7 [/SUP]It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
 

Blain

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There is a great benefit in discussing and debating the scriptures and the matters of God however there is also a great danger as well because we tend to let our disagreements and different views and understandings of it make enemies of each other and say to each other you are not a Christian.

This is where the enemy sneaks into our hearts, these discussion and debates have a purpose if done so in love and with the right heart. If we go into debates to learn and to grow and to become closer to God and to help our fellow brethren then the enemy is less likely to able to use us, but if we go into debates for the sake of debating or to prove ourselves right or to show others how wrong they are then without knowing it the enemy is using us.

Just something for everyone to consider. if you go into the bible discussion forum and you enter a debate or discussion search your heart and ask yourself what your hearts motive and reason for it is and ask yourself what your words are for. Our words are just like a blade they can cut they can stab they can keep others down and they can be solely for ourselves or they can heal they can give life they can be an exact representation of God's heart because only love can do all this
 

FlSnookman7

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Look up dissociative disorders. That's all this hyper grace stuff is. Split the person into two identities and discard one.
Saying the work of God is something else is blaspheming the Holy Spirit. You should tread very lightly here indeed.