bringing this over here so as not to derail Abiding's thread.
and oh how men lust for that power today.
what folly.
1 Corinthians 3
For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.
Ephesians 2
but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, 20built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, 21in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord.
Hebrews 1
The Supremacy of God’s Son
1Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, 2but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world. 3He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, 4having become as much superior to angels as the name he has inherited is more excellent than theirs.
good. let's get this on record.
3 cheers for NEO-MONTANIM! yay!
the flesh loves it.
well, i've seen a lot of deceitfull handling of God's Word to justify crackpot theology (Dominionism in this case by the looks of it...most definitely NAR trash).
this is a contender for among the worst.
so, we got a boatload of references to israel's ancient OT prophets (typical of the New Breed)...applied to these charlatans who apparently think we're so stupid we don't know what the ministries of the israelite prophets was, that those callings and even the way God spoke through them ENDED.
the NT prophets operated under a completely different priciple, and their purpose was totally different. funny how NT prophets are rarely NAMED and their functions and words NEVER used by our NAR guys....i wonder why.
so we have OT prophets' ministries ripped from context, used deceiftuflly, and then on top of that we get the following NT proof texts as justification for modern day prophets:
Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.
John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Revelation 2:24-29
But to the rest of you in Thyatira, who do not hold this teaching, who have not learned what some call the deep things of Satan, to you I say, I do not lay on you any other burden. Only hold fast what you have until I come. The one who conquers and who keeps my works until the end, to him I will give authority over the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron, as when earthen pots are broken in pieces, even as I myself have received authority from my Father. And I will give him the morning star. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.’
NEW PROPHETS & APOSTLES? NAH.
Matthew 7
Never Knew You
21“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’
A prophet is the mouth piece of God Himself. He hears the words of the Lord and gives the message to the people..
what folly.
1 Corinthians 3
For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.
Ephesians 2
but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, 20built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, 21in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord.
Hebrews 1
The Supremacy of God’s Son
1Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, 2but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world. 3He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, 4having become as much superior to angels as the name he has inherited is more excellent than theirs.
A prophet can be given a vision of the future, but that is not real purpose of the prophet as many believe. The purpose of the prophet is...
3 cheers for NEO-MONTANIM! yay!
the flesh loves it.
1) The prophet is to speak the word of the Lord. ( Reference: Jeremiah 1:5-7, Ezekiel 33:9 )
2) The prophet is to speak first and foremost to God's people, Israel, the church etc. ( Reference: Ezekiel 33:2, Romans 1:16 )
3) They speak the coming Judgment ( References: Ezekiel:22:19-22, Zechariah 14:12)
4) They speak of salvation, a way to escape Judgment. ( References: Jeremiah 4:14, Ezekiel 33:11-20 John 14:6 )
5) To rebuke of correct false teachers, and false teachings. (Reference: Ezekiel 13:2)
6) To comfort, confirm and exhort those who are being obedient to God/Christ (Reference: Revelation 2:24-29)
The prophet's message is summed up in Isaiah 61:2.
2) The prophet is to speak first and foremost to God's people, Israel, the church etc. ( Reference: Ezekiel 33:2, Romans 1:16 )
3) They speak the coming Judgment ( References: Ezekiel:22:19-22, Zechariah 14:12)
4) They speak of salvation, a way to escape Judgment. ( References: Jeremiah 4:14, Ezekiel 33:11-20 John 14:6 )
5) To rebuke of correct false teachers, and false teachings. (Reference: Ezekiel 13:2)
6) To comfort, confirm and exhort those who are being obedient to God/Christ (Reference: Revelation 2:24-29)
The prophet's message is summed up in Isaiah 61:2.
this is a contender for among the worst.
so, we got a boatload of references to israel's ancient OT prophets (typical of the New Breed)...applied to these charlatans who apparently think we're so stupid we don't know what the ministries of the israelite prophets was, that those callings and even the way God spoke through them ENDED.
the NT prophets operated under a completely different priciple, and their purpose was totally different. funny how NT prophets are rarely NAMED and their functions and words NEVER used by our NAR guys....i wonder why.
so we have OT prophets' ministries ripped from context, used deceiftuflly, and then on top of that we get the following NT proof texts as justification for modern day prophets:
Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.
John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Revelation 2:24-29
But to the rest of you in Thyatira, who do not hold this teaching, who have not learned what some call the deep things of Satan, to you I say, I do not lay on you any other burden. Only hold fast what you have until I come. The one who conquers and who keeps my works until the end, to him I will give authority over the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron, as when earthen pots are broken in pieces, even as I myself have received authority from my Father. And I will give him the morning star. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.’
NEW PROPHETS & APOSTLES? NAH.
Matthew 7
Never Knew You
21“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’