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allaboutlove

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Like I said in an earlier thread, there are thousands of other gods that you don't believe in either.

So you know exactly what it's like to not believe in a god.

Why are atheists even given a collective name? There's not a name for someone who doesn't believe in Dragons or werewolves. People also try to say Atheism
Is a religion in itself. Not true. Does not collecting stamps count as a hobby?

Atheists don't hate god, they don't even believe in a god. Most non believers I know aren't agnostic. The don't hedge their bets and say they'd believe If they had evidence. A lot of atheists don't believe at all and HOPE that's it's not true. There is no hated for god. There is hatred for people who commit Dispicable acts and think they are justified in doing so by saying its in gods name.

They hate acts like 911 because they were Commited in the name
Of a deity. And people think they are empowered to do these things because they believe they have god on their side. An atheist wishes there was a flashing moment before a terrorist dies where they realise it was nonsens and they bought an empty bag of goods.

Atheists believe religion has no ethics or moral value. Because you can commit almost any crime or 'sin' and as long as you repent you'll be forgiven and all is well. Where is The responsibility or
Accountability?

An atheist can take pride in himself in his achievements and hold himself accountable for his wrongdoings. He seeks strength from inside and not from above.

Good people do good things and bad people do bad things. To make a good person do a bad thing you need religion.
Its not quit as cut an dry as you put it here... while yes an sin can be forgiven you cant just go out an murder someone an say God forgive me then go out an murder someone else an say God forgive me an then go out murder someone an else then do it again an say God forgiveme then die an go to heaven.... dosent work that way..
 
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enoch1nine

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It takes one little miracle to change an atheist into a Jesus fanatic. I think they are the least of God's concerns.
 
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ABjerre

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If atheists don't believe in God, then why do they get mad at Him?
If atheists don't think He is real, then why do they blame him for everything?
If people can't tolerate other religious views other than their own, why do they hold to a position thats high in their own belief?
If people originated with or from monkeys, why then isn't it fully proven to be not a theory?
Why do they call it a theory, but still teach it through books and school?
I don't understand???????
No atheists do this. Being atheist means to not have faith, to not believe. Its a lack of religion, it is not being against your god or having an opposing religion or anyhting of the sort. Its like the vacuum in space: There is simply nothing there. So...

1: You can not get mad at something that you do not think exists, therefor atheist people do not get mad at any god for any reason. This is equal to being mad at the Loch Ness monster or unicorns. You cant because they do not exist.

2: Same as above - you cant blame someone that you do not think exists for something.

3: Micro and Macro evolution are proven. There is no reason to think that it wouldn't apply to primates as well.

4: It is like Einsteins throry of relativity - its can't be 100% proven, but so far all (curcumstantial evidence) suggests that its true, so untill something that weighs heavier in the other direction comes along, it is treated as truth.
 

allaboutlove

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There is no more actuall proof that we evolved from apps than there is to you that God created us unless something is 100 percent proven its not actually proven its still only a therioy sure we have some genes in common with apes... apes have similaitys to us an it would make sence that God used some of the same genes when creatin both species an no i cant show you any proof of that but from a unbiased perspective it is just as plausible as us evolving from apes... now as far as weather cretures evolve or adapt to certain envirments that i belive that can be shown... but that dosent mean everthing started via evolution only that things have tge ability to evolve..
 
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SpaceCowboy

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People love the darkness rather then the light. Because people don't want their deeds exposed. That's really all it is.
 
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danschance

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No atheists do this. Being atheist means to not have faith, to not believe. .
If an atheist claims there is no God, they say this out of a belief, not facts.

If I say I do not believe in the tooth fairy, that means I have a personal belief that the tooth fairy does not exist. Atheists struggle with this concept: "You can have a belief for something and also against something". A negative belief is still a belief. Only a true agnostic has no belief, but as soon as he decides one way or the other, it is still a belief.

Are atheists so blind they can not see this or are they simply deceiving themselves?
 
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If an atheist claims there is no God, they say this out of a belief, not facts.

If I say I do not believe in the tooth fairy, that means I have a personal belief that the tooth fairy does not exist. Atheists struggle with this concept: "You can have a belief for something and also against something". A negative belief is still a belief. Only a true agnostic has no belief, but as soon as he decides one way or the other, it is still a belief.

Are atheists so blind they can not see this or are they simply deceiving themselves?
I can see what your saying, it is a belief yea. Of course it is. I firmly believe without a shadow of doubt that there is no god.

You 100 percent believe there is a god. And I would never have the disrespect to tell you that my belief carries more weight than yours. Obviously I believe myself that I'm right and your wrong.. Same as you do about me. But my opinion is no more or less valid than yours.

And as for the comment of my 'deeds' being exposed. My life is no different to yours. I get up. Feed myself and my child, pack him off to school, then go to work, come home, bath, bit of TV food and bed then rinse and repeat. My life is no different to yours except we believe in different things.

Don't try and make out that I have a sordid life, i do the same routine of chores and responsibilities as you do.
 
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jack4022

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If atheists don't believe in God, then why do they get mad at Him?
If atheists don't think He is real, then why do they blame him for everything?

Some atheists like to attack other religions for the same reason why people of all faiths attack people of other faiths....because it makes them feel "better" than the other person, also many atheists come from a religious background and may harbor resentment or anger towards a particular faith that hurt them in the past

If people can't tolerate other religious views other than their own, why do they hold to a position thats high in their own belief?

Again people like to feel good about themselves, its a human thing

If people originated with or from monkeys, why then isn't it fully proven to be not a theory?

It is a theory, that means that there is room for error. Many believers in evolution dont like to accept room for error because people dont like it when their world view is threatened or compromised. People dont like realizing that what they believe may be false. However, evolution is the only scientific theory that has survived to the modern day. perhaps in 100 years it'll be different, but for now its the only one.

Why do they call it a theory, but still teach it through books and school?

Many theories are taught in school, the theory of relativity in physics for example.
 
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What we do is no different to when a Christian dismisses Islam or Mormonism or Horus or whatever. We Dismiss all gods Where as you dismiss all gods except one.

Like I said before. You understand the atheists motives fully, because you yourself don't believe in gods
 
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ABMF

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Its actually said, that atheist chooses to believe there is no God. They "will" not to believe. In doing so they assert themselves as God because to say there is no God is to be extremely arrogant and prideful. Why? Because it would mean that you have searched all the galaxies, everywhere, behind and in everything in the entire universe to be able to say for sure, with your data cross checked, that there is no God. What an atheist should say is that they choose not to believe.
 
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Its actually said, that atheist chooses to believe there is no God. They "will" not to believe. In doing so they assert themselves as God because to say there is no God is to be extremely arrogant and prideful. Why? Because it would mean that you have searched all the galaxies, everywhere, behind and in everything in the entire universe to be able to say for sure, with your data cross checked, that there is no God. What an atheist should say is that they choose not to believe.
I assume you've done the same then. Searched every galaxy and unturned every stone and then you eventually came across god? And saw him with your own eyes?
 
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ABMF

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I do not need to do so, for I did not claim that there is no God. I believed the evidence given me that there was. I choose to believe that there is a God. I doubted His existence and in His Grace He granted me a sign that was good enough for me to prove that He Is. You on the other hand have the impossible burden of your belief. Why? Because I believe that God created all the places that you would have to search. I believe that God is everywhere and made this world. Everywhere I look I find God, for even in the fact that His hand keeps this world going. You not believing that, must work very hard, and go off the assumption of no God. Once a person "believes" they understand that whether or not they did or did not believe, made no difference to the fact that GOD IS. Believing really is a lot easier then doubting when you have received the grace to do so.
 
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danschance

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I can see what your saying, it is a belief yea. Of course it is. I firmly believe without a shadow of doubt that there is no god.

You 100 percent believe there is a god. And I would never have the disrespect to tell you that my belief carries more weight than yours. Obviously I believe myself that I'm right and your wrong.. Same as you do about me. But my opinion is no more or less valid than yours.

And as for the comment of my 'deeds' being exposed. My life is no different to yours. I get up. Feed myself and my child, pack him off to school, then go to work, come home, bath, bit of TV food and bed then rinse and repeat. My life is no different to yours except we believe in different things.

Don't try and make out that I have a sordid life, i do the same routine of chores and responsibilities as you do.

Thank you, I appreciate your candor. You are the first I know of who is willing to admit what others already know. A belief carries no weight, in and of itself. However, if it is rooted in something false it might lead one down a path they otherwise, would not go down. A belief which is rooted in truth just might save you from hell, which does carry some weight. Even so I fully respect your decisions, even if I believe them to be disastrous.
 
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danschance

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I assume you've done the same then. Searched every galaxy and unturned every stone and then you eventually came across god? And saw him with your own eyes?
You might find it of interest to know that I became convinced that God is real by evidence I found to be incontrovertible for myself. Even so I know that if I told you what I had experienced you would simply dismiss it as anecdotal. Just keep this in mind. Just because that evidence is anecdotal, does not make it false. It simply makes it difficult to prove beyond doubt.
 
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Faith is a gift from God. When you have it you sense God everywhere. Without God's will not only could we not live at this very moment, but nothing could exist. We are dead. We are nothing. God is everything, God is immortal. We live because of his love for us. God is love. When you die, you find this out. When you know God's love you regret everything you ever did, your entire life that was against his will, for all eternity. Especially anything you did to bring others away from him.
 
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If atheists don't believe in God, then why do they get mad at Him?
If atheists don't think He is real, then why do they blame him for everything?
If people can't tolerate other religious views other than their own, why do they hold to a position thats high in their own belief?
If people originated with or from monkeys, why then isn't it fully proven to be not a theory?
Why do they call it a theory, but still teach it through books and school?
I don't understand???????
Because it was prophesied by Moses and Confirmed through Christ, that Israel, would go forth and utterly corrupt themselves.

Because Israel or Isreal, (doesn't matter which spelling, Because it IS only an acrostic to The Covenant buried IN LOVE through the families of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob/Israel 2 Commandments, which IF applied, veto the 10.)and that, @ this time ISREAL IS the Whole World.

Because First! BEFORE the end, This Word, MUST BE PUBLISHED IN ALL NATIONS.

(or better understood, transliterated.)

What WORD is that?

The Ancient Kryptomite

The Original Fire

The Immoveable FORCE (not yet though; Patience! ;)) 1 day = 1000 human years.

The WORD spoken to and recorded through, (not by) Moses & the Prophets. (as Moses comes after this Covenant)

The SAME Covenant that was both Affirmed & Confirmed through (not by) The SAME Living Word, Jesus The Christ/Yeshua Messiah; The Annointed ONE of YAHAVEH, The FATHER, The SON/SUN in whom Our Father IS well pleased,;) OUR, Lord of Lords, OUR, King of Kings, The LAST Prophet, The Chief Apostle, The One & Only Mediator/Lawyer to OUR Father, The NEW COVENANT/TESTAMENT, in HOW to contact OUR Father LOVE; The LAST and FINAL High Priest, for One & ALL. And the lives of his Apostles.

MELCHAZIDEK; (In whom Abraham (NOT YOU! gave 10%) The Prince of PEACE! AND, The King(NOT KING) of the Justified Kills; ( OUR likeness in the Image of GOD ALMIGHTY) The Original Rebel WITH a cause, OUR Fathers WORD.

Seated in his, OUR Brother's proper place; @ this time, (the ark of The Covenant) at the right hand of EL"Shadua, Get Over Death ALMIGHTY.

Sacred & Hallowed BE



The NAME of OUR Father YAHAVEH, The Father of The Covenant made in LOVE through (Not By) The Families of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob/Israel Who IS The The Spirit of LOVE.

THE MOST Positive physical Force, Power & Might, that ALWAY'S has been, Still IS and ALWAYS Will Be; Forever & Ever, and That's That (amen)

The Creator of Life and the Source of LOVE, (NOT, Pre-Judgement :D) that Always has been, still IS! and Alway's WILL BE!

The ONE that Rules MoreNaturely/SuperNaturely in the Glory & The Honour of the HIS FAIRNESS.

In whom MOST certainly DOES belong ALL of the PRAISE! in both the negative (as even the devils/gods know that there IS only ONE GOD)

And OUR positive Universe.

The Creator of Life & The Source of LOVE.

Always has been, Still IS, and ALWAYS Will Be.

Forever & Ever and That's That. (amen)

Gotta go; bbl








 
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Atheist simply live without God and choose their own path for themselves, and frankly, they aren't part of us or our world. They live as humans on this earth with us, they will not live with us when we go to our next life.

God inscribes the law in every human's heart and lots of atheist choose to live guided by that, it makes our life better. Their's too.

Our only business with them is to be sure to welcome them into God's family if they want to enter.

My heart goes out to people like my neighbor who loves her husband so much, but he refuses to join the family of God and she is saved by Christ. They are elderly, and she knows they will be parted forever one of these days.
 
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Tethered

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I can't imagine what it's like to love someone, but also believe they're going to hell. To see every good quality in someone, day after day, time after time, constantly reminded it means nothing.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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Lying atheists everywhere
Deceived atheists on a tear
Just like little demons
Flying through the air

Atheists crawling all around
Atheists squirming on the ground
Atheists think they're monkeys
So why do they act like donkeys

Atheists love to scream and shout
They don't know what life's about
They don't have brains in their heads
But say they'll rule the world some day
 
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Lying atheists everywhere
Deceived atheists on a tear
Just like little demons
Flying through the air

Atheists crawling all around
Atheists squirming on the ground
Atheists think they're monkeys
So why do they act like donkeys

Atheists love to scream and shout
They don't know what life's about
They don't have brains in their heads
But say they'll rule the world some day
Look, if god has a problem with how I live my life, then how about HE tells me, and not you. Yeah?