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If atheists don't believe in God, then why do they get mad at Him?
If atheists don't think He is real, then why do they blame him for everything?
If people can't tolerate other religious views other than their own, why do they hold to a position thats high in their own belief?
If people originated with or from monkeys, why then isn't it fully proven to be not a theory?
Why do they call it a theory, but still teach it through books and school?
I don't understand???????
Atheists DO believe in God, they just hate Him. Why else do they spend so much time attacking the God of the Bible, even though Islam is the most threatening religion today? Everybody has a conscience that tells them there is a God. But these people suppress the truth. Nobody can honesty look at the universe and the complexity of life and not believe in a Creator. Atheists know deep down God exists, they just hate the idea of being accountable for their sins.
 
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Atheists DO believe in God, they just hate Him. Why else do they spend so much time attacking the God of the Bible, even though Islam is the most threatening religion today? Everybody has a conscience that tells them there is a God. But these people suppress the truth. Nobody can honesty look at the universe and the complexity of life and not believe in a Creator. Atheists know deep down God exists, they just hate the idea of being accountable for their sins.
This makes absolutely no sense.
 
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Atheists DO believe in God, they just hate Him. Why else do they spend so much time attacking the God of the Bible, even though Islam is the most threatening religion today? Everybody has a conscience that tells them there is a God. But these people suppress the truth. Nobody can honesty look at the universe and the complexity of life and not believe in a Creator. Atheists know deep down God exists, they just hate the idea of being accountable for their sins.
What about agnostic atheists?
 
Jul 10, 2013
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Nothing is different. Our lives are exactly the same. The same bad/good stuff happens to atheists and Christians alike. We fall in love, we have children, we suffer loss of loved ones. We have jobs, we have financial burden and family troubles.

Our lives are no different.

Go back to the time of the plague. The bishop at the time was confused as to why the same amount of believers were dying as the non believers. Same as there is no difference for any hardships that may come our way. We will either survive or die. Regardless of our beliefs.

The only difference between is you don't believe in 10,000 gods. And I don't believe in 10,001.

Aside from that our lives are identical.
Your quote about believing in one less God is silly. It is silly because it presupposes the existence of multiple Gods. You are attacking henotheism - a popular belief in Ancient Egypt that believed in one God, but acknowledged the existence of others. Christians are theists, we believe in one God who is the one and only that exists.

We don't believe in one God and neglect the rest, that's anti biblical, and your argument is not convincing.

Here is something to think about. Your soul will never die. Ever! Whether you believe it or not you will either be in hell for all eternity or heaven. To KNOW this is true you have to receive grace. You receive grace by trying to do the right thing, all the time. God gave you the knowledge to know right from wrong, just like everyone else (there's your proof that God exists, everyone knows somethings are wrong that are non cultural. They are ingrained in us.).
 
Jun 7, 2013
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I'm not saying these gods exist. I'm just saying that there are thousands of mythical gods that you don't believe in too. And I disbelieve in one more than you do.

At no point did i say any of them existed.

So you wrote all that for nothing
 
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I'm not saying these gods exist. I'm just saying that there are thousands of mythical gods that you don't believe in too. And I disbelieve in one more than you do.

At no point did i say any of them existed.

So you wrote all that for nothing
All these other "gods" are referred to as idols in the Bible. Anybody can build an image and claim that this is the true god. But in Christianity, we believe in the God who created heaven and earth. Atheists know deep down there is a fundamental difference, which is why 99% of atheists attack the God of the Bible. Why don't they attack Satanists who are raping and torturing children? Or why don't they attack Allah or Muhammad? Why is it Jesus and Jehovah that atheists always target?
 
Jun 7, 2013
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Hmm that's a very good point. As much as I disbelieve all religion and gods equally, I do seem to target Chriatianity.

Maybe it's because it's the primary religion in my country? Although I fear that Islam is on the rise here and seems to be ever growing.

Maybe its the 'safe' option? You don't see many Christians slaying people in the street or decapitating people on YouTube.

Maybe it's because you can attack Christianty without being branded a racist? The Islamists have done such a good job of blurring the lines between race and religion that if you attack one your seen as attacking both?

Or maybe it's because Christianty has more credibility? Or maybe it's because thats the religion I know more about?

Excellent question MrOrganic. I've never thought about it before.
 
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Hmm that's a very good point. As much as I disbelieve all religion and gods equally, I do seem to target Chriatianity.

Maybe it's because it's the primary religion in my country? Although I fear that Islam is on the rise here and seems to be ever growing.

Maybe its the 'safe' option? You don't see many Christians slaying people in the street or decapitating people on YouTube.

Maybe it's because you can attack Christianty without being branded a racist? The Islamists have done such a good job of blurring the lines between race and religion that if you attack one your seen as attacking both?

Or maybe it's because Christianty has more credibility? Or maybe it's because thats the religion I know more about?

Excellent question MrOrganic. I've never thought about it before.
My freind Islam is on the rise because it appeals to our flesh. It is based on what I can do. True Christianity is based on what God did for us. Islam is in direct opposition to this. I hope you make the right choice even though it not popular and want get you brownie points socially.
 
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My freind Islam is on the rise because it appeals to our flesh. It is based on what I can do. True Christianity is based on what God did for us. Islam is in direct opposition to this. I hope you make the right choice even though it not popular and want get you brownie points socially.
Islam and Mormans are both on the rise because they appeal to our need for order. Satan has entered our Christian Churches to say that order and law is out. So the human need for discipline and order is turning them to where they can find it. The truth of Our Lord would give them both eternal life through Christ and order, also. They see only the order offered, and we are hiding that from them.
 
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Islam and Mormans are both on the rise because they appeal to our need for order. Satan has entered our Christian Churches to say that order and law is out. So the human need for discipline and order is turning them to where they can find it. The truth of Our Lord would give them both eternal life through Christ and order, also. They see only the order offered, and we are hiding that from them.
My friend this the fault of the church. which has embraced psychology and higher education and rejected the cross
 
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My friend this the fault of the church. which has embraced psychology and higher education and rejected the cross
I don't see them rejecting the cross at all, they are rejecting the part of God that is the creator and establishes the principles that operates our world. They are wanting the forgiveness and grace God offers them without the repentance asked for.
 
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My freind Islam is on the rise because it appeals to our flesh. It is based on what I can do. True Christianity is based on what God did for us. Islam is in direct opposition to this. I hope you make the right choice even though it not popular and want get you brownie points socially.
I've already cast my lot in with 'none of the above' my friend.

So in your opinion, should Islam be disregarded as meaningless nonsense or is it a genuine threat ?
 
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Islam and Mormans are both on the rise because they appeal to our need for order. Satan has entered our Christian Churches to say that order and law is out. So the human need for discipline and order is turning them to where they can find it. The truth of Our Lord would give them both eternal life through Christ and order, also. They see only the order offered, and we are hiding that from them.
No need to be judging on Mormons even though they have misconceptions here and there, they are still Christian c'mon people :p I think your thinking of the conservative Mormon belief which is corrupt.
 
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My bad, I meant, fundamentalist Mormons
 
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Yea that's the problem it's the Catholic point of view lol...No offense but I can tell they try to sugar coat the real deal


Many do not perceive living in tribulation as an important issue; perhaps this is because they don’t know what real tribulation is like, or perhaps they simply believe the escapism. We are about faith not fear, suggesting for people to be prepared, not scared.


Ephesians 5:15-17

15 See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise, 16 Redeeming the time, because the days are evil. 17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.
 
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I've already cast my lot in with 'none of the above' my friend.

So in your opinion, should Islam be disregarded as meaningless nonsense or is it a genuine threat ?
Islam is the biggest threat to this country other than unbelief. Just like Balaam showed how to defeat Israel. Our president is leading us into deeper sin. The only thing that can defeat us is sin. Don't join the army God is no longer backing it .
 
Aug 25, 2013
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If atheists don't believe in God, then why do they get mad at Him?
Hi folks. This is my first post. I was surfing and just happened across this thread, found it interesting, and decided to join.

As an atheist I have often found my words misunderstood by many Christians. I have been asked why it is that I hate God. The truth is I do not hate God. I think atheists generally feel no animosity toward God, those that do (though I have not met any), probably are not fully confident in their atheism.

Bryancampbell said:
If atheists don't think He is real, then why do they blame him for everything?
Is that what you think atheists do? This is news to me.

Bryancampbell said:
If people can't tolerate other religious views other than their own, why do they hold to a position thats high in their own belief?
Bryan, could you explain more fully what you mean?

Bryancampbell said:
If people originated with or from monkeys, why then isn't it fully proven to be not a theory?
Why do they call it a theory, but still teach it through books and school?
I don't understand???????
This question is quite removed from the one you started with.

I would point out that many people in the general population don't use the word theory as scientists do. By theory many people mean something that is unproven or will even use the word in a derogatory sense, but scientist use the word to invoke something that is well established and supported by numerous lines of inquiry. Once something is labeled a theory it is considered an established fact. So evolutionary theory rests on ground as solidly as does germ theory, but that doesn't mean we still don't have a lot more to learn about both.

When a line of inquiry is not fully established best to call it an hypothesis.
 
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Islam is the biggest threat to this country other than unbelief.
Oh dear! You would consider an atheist more threatening than an Islamist suicide bomber? Have I misunderstood you?
 
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Hi folks. This is my first post. I was surfing and just happened across this thread, found it interesting, and decided to join.

As an atheist I have often found my words misunderstood by many Christians. I have been asked why it is that I hate God. The truth is I do not hate God. I think atheists generally feel no animosity toward God, those that do (though I have not met any), probably are not fully confident in their atheism.


Is that what you think atheists do? This is news to me.


Bryan, could you explain more fully what you mean?


This question is quite removed from the one you started with.

I would point out that many people in the general population don't use the word theory as scientists do. By theory many people mean something that is unproven or will even use the word in a derogatory sense, but scientist use the word to invoke something that is well established and supported by numerous lines of inquiry. Once something is labeled a theory it is considered an established fact. So evolutionary theory rests on ground as solidly as does germ theory, but that doesn't mean we still don't have a lot more to learn about both.

When a line of inquiry is not fully established best to call it an hypothesis.
well that is really the point;

evolutionism really only qualifies as an hypothesis for which all the observable evidence is contradictory
 
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I used to consider myself an atheist. I didn't believe in God, the Bible, heaven, you know, the usual atheist stuff. I can tell you, when God saved me, I definitely was not looking for Him. After studying the Bible for some time, I realized there is no such thing as an atheist.
Hello Ed. I find this perplexing.

You have said that when you were an atheist you did not believe in God. So, are you arguing now that you really did believe in God, but you just didn't realize it?

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People know just enough about God to hate Him and shake their fist at Him, so to speak (Romans 3). The hate towards God is so fierce, it causes people to deny His very existence. Does that make sense?
No it doesn't. When you were an atheist did you hate God? I have never met an atheist who claimed to hate God. Many Christians frequently make this claim of atheists, but you never hear atheists saying it of themselves.

I am sure some people of the old generation hated Hitler with a passion that burned, but I do not think such a person would come to deny Hitler's existence. Do you? No, this is a flawed argument you are making.

On the matter of Romans 3, I do not think Paul is referring to atheists. In that age you would probably be hard pressed to locate an atheist. When Paul spoke of non-believers he is writing about the greatest threat that faced him: pagans, Jews, and Christians that followed a doctrine other than his own.