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Nonbelievers visit this site often. Many of them are mature and respectful despite their views on God so there is absolutely no excuse for some of the things she said.
What did she say that offended you? I am very curious, as you seemed quite pleased to see the back of her.
 

my_adonai_

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Appreciated, but my empathy comment may need repeating. Scripture isn't more useful than assertions to people who don't believe the bible is true. If someone quoted the Qur'an to you in order to back up their "factual claims", it wouldn't persuade you... and so you ought to understand why this isn't persuasive to those of us who don't believe the bible.
Well, thats the choice you made.
i just do my part and preach to you Jesus Christ the Crucified..!!..
 
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Well that's nice, but my comment had nothing to do with questions being asked by her but her vulgarity that was removed from the thread.
The stump of her post that remained, followed by your exclamation, "You are so banned!" left me with the wrong impression then. Surely though, you can understand why I might have gotten that notion?
 
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megaman125

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The stump of her post that remained, followed by your exclamation, "You are so banned!" left me with the wrong impression then. Surely though, you can understand why I might have gotten that notion?
Yeah, I understand where you're coming from Cycel. When I first saw that, I was thinking, "Huh, what did she get banned for?" Then I noticed in the bottom corner of her post said that the post was edited by a moderator, as was a post where someone quoted her. Then I went, "Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh." (Ok, that last bit was a bit silly, but I taugh a group of elementary kids today at church, and that tends to put me in a silly mood.)
 

Elizabeth619

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What did she say that offended you? I am very curious, as you seemed quite pleased to see the back of her.
Pleased? Saying something isn't appropriate doesn't mean someone is "pleased" they were banned.
What was said was deleted so it really isn't up for discussion anymore.
 
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Pleased? Saying something isn't appropriate doesn't mean someone is "pleased" they were banned.
It was the way you said. Perhaps you weren't pleased then, but you didn't sound saddened either.
 
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danschance

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Cycel, I for one am pleased she is gone. Cathym's posts were obnoxious. I don't have a clue what she posted that was "vulger", but I know that if I had posted what she had posted I would also be banned. This site is moderated, rules are posted and if people can't behave themselves they get dealt with.

The Moderators seem slow to act as Cathym's previous posts were filled with hate, intolerance and laced with Christophobia. She got what she clearly deserved.
 

Josh321

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unfortunately.. she will drift further away from christ, idk what she did but i don't think she had to banned for it maybe a warning?
 
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Bryancampbell

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unfortunately.. she will drift further away from christ, idk what she did but i don't think she had to banned for it maybe a warning?
Hmmm brother maybe you should throw in that idea at the suggestion forum, unless we do get warnings before anyone gets banned? Warnings will show people they have had given chances to quit. I might be wrong. What are your guy's thoughts or facts on this?
 

Josh321

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Hmmm brother maybe you should throw in that idea at the suggestion forum, unless we do get warnings before anyone gets banned? Warnings will show people they have had given chances to quit. I might be wrong. What are your guy's thoughts or facts on this?
it's sad that they never thought about this though, no one should just be banned just like that without a warning, who knows maybe they will never turn back to christ because of that and that hate will grow stronger... we not suppose to do things like that though hopefully they will change it up to warnings instead of just instantly banning someone without even notifying them
 
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Ugly

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it's sad that they never thought about this though, no one should just be banned just like that without a warning, who knows maybe they will never turn back to christ because of that and that hate will grow stronger... we not suppose to do things like that though hopefully they will change it up to warnings instead of just instantly banning someone without even notifying them
People get banned who earn it. There are rules of behavior posted. If you don't abide by the rules, there are consequences. And when people come to this site for the sole purpose of breaking those rules, why do they need a warning? Warnings are given to those who slip up, not to those who come here with the intention of causing trouble.
 
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danschance

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unfortunately.. she will drift further away from christ, idk what she did but i don't think she had to banned for it maybe a warning?
How do you know she didn't get a warning? She was aware that she could be banned for some posts.
 

zone

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We think that name-calling is evil because the main purpose is to hurt feelings, even if you really believe that your targets deserve to be called a "brood of vipers".
please tread carefully here if you would.

nothing Jesus said was evil.
thank you for your consideration.
zone.

Romans 9
19You will say to me then, "Why does He still find fault? For who resists His will?" 20On the contrary, who are you, O man, who answers back to God? The thing molded will not say to the molder, "Why did you make me like this," will it? 21Or does not the potter have a right over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for common use?

your hurt feelings are not God's concern at this time.
if you honor His Son, your feelings will matter.
 
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megaman125

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unfortunately.. she will drift further away from christ, idk what she did but i don't think she had to banned for it maybe a warning?
When it comes to people like that, I honestly don't believe there's such a thing as "pushing them further away from God," because they're already as far away from God as they want to be before we even say two words to them.
 
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And when people come to this site for the sole purpose of breaking those rules, why do they need a warning?
I've been banned from Christian forums (well, from one) and I can assure you I never arrived with the express purpose of breaking the rules. If someone is going around deliberately breaking rules then maybe it is their desire to be banned, but then why show up at all? No, I think many atheists are inadvertently breaking the rules. I can tell you that I am very cautious about how I post because it is so easy to slip across that invisible line, and yes I think the line is often invisible. I can't tell you the number of times in the past that I've been accused of insulting God or the Faith when it was never my intention to rouse that kind of ire. I am more aware of it now because of the number of years I've been at this, but when I started out I crossed the line many times. Often I was left dumbfounded by the reaction that I sometimes received, and I believe the raw nerve I was cutting into is frequently more exposed in some people that it is in others.

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Warnings are given to those who slip up, not to those who come here with the intention of causing trouble.
How do you make the distinction between those who are deliberately insulting and those who don't recognize they've done it? I think a big part of the problem is that the very notion of atheism is abhorrent to many devout believers. The result is the mere act of an atheist saying what's on their mind is in itself often viewed as insulting language. For the atheist on a Christian forum this problem presents something of a dilemma: how do you say what you want to say without sounding inflammatory? Believe me, when people are as sensitive about their faith as they are, not crossing that line can become something of a challenge.
 
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When it comes to people like that, I honestly don't believe there's such a thing as "pushing them further away from God," because they're already as far away from God as they want to be before we even say two words to them.
That may be the case, or it may not. I talked with one former atheist (now a devout Christian) who told me he would go out of his way to argue and put down Christians. I believe there are one or two former atheists in this forum. Ask them if they ever thought they'd return to God. Ask them how anti-Christian they were and whether they ever argued abrasively with believers. The thing is Megaman, I don't think you and I are in a position to accurately judge who will return to the light, and who will turn to the dark side. :)
 
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1still_waters

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Please drop the issue of the ban.
Thanks.
 
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megaman125

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I've been banned from Christian forums (well, from one) and I can assure you I never arrived with the express purpose of breaking the rules. If someone is going around deliberately breaking rules then maybe it is their desire to be banned, but then why show up at all? No, I think many atheists are inadvertently breaking the rules.
I don't think it's inadvertent at all. I think in a lot of cases it's a deliberate act of rebellion against Christian authority, becuase they hate Christian athority the same as the hate God's authority in the Bible. Some cases I think they do it just to see how much they can get away with.

I might be way off base with all of this, but that's the impression many atheists leave on me.

I can tell you that I am very cautious about how I post because it is so easy to slip across that invisible line, and yes I think the line is often invisible. I can't tell you the number of times in the past that I've been accused of insulting God or the Faith when it was never my intention to rouse that kind of ire. I am more aware of it now because of the number of years I've been at this, but when I started out I crossed the line many times. Often I was left dumbfounded by the reaction that I sometimes received, and I believe the raw nerve I was cutting into is frequently more exposed in some people that it is in others.
Yeah, I bet you were left dumbfounded, same with many other atheists who get banned. They can't figure out why, so they play the victim card of "boo hoo hoo, look at me, they banned me, poor me," or they'll play a superiority card like "they banned me because I was right," or some combination of the two. However, it's often that neither is the case. They play those cards because they are blind (a lot of times willingly) to their own pride and arrogance. It sounds like this used to be the case with you, and over time you learned how to respectfully conduct yourself towards Christians. And when I say respectfully conduct yourself, I'm not talking about how you respectful you conduct yourself in your own eyes, but rather you recognize how Christian authorities view what's respectful conduct.

Based on what I said above about rebelling against Christian athority, this is why my picture of the typcial atheist is a spoiled 5-year old screaming and crying when he doesn't get his way. It all has to do with issues of how they handle the authority over them and discipline. (yeah, there's not much in terms of discipline on an internet forum other than banning, which is really just a slap on the wrist in terms of overall consequences, but some people obviously can't even handle the slightest bit of discipline well.)
 
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1still_waters

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Again. Please drop the issue of discussing the ban. This is the second statement asking folks to quit discussing it.

Thanks