Attack of the Judaizers

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The German christian nazi's sought a christianity that was racially


based christianity with Nazi ideology


German christians sang nationalist hymns that praised hitler, and


callled him savior.
Storm troopers of christ, the Germanic christians called


themselves the PEOPLES CHURC.


They demanded the de-Judaizing of Christianity and demanded


a liberation of christianity from the Un-German Old Testament,


and from St. Paul in the New testament


They claimed Jesus had not been a Jew


but a German ARyan hero who opposed all the Jews!


A German christian pastor in Wurtemmburg described the


"worst enemy of the church" as the "Jewish nature that has


infiltrated us"
(The Sabbath issue, which is throughout the whole Bible


Despite their small numbers
The German Christians used National church elections of


OTHER DENOMINATIONSon July 23 1933 to gain control


of all the other PROTESTANT CHURCHS who believed the


WHOLE BIBLE...


They recieved two thirds of the vote to capture most positions


from parish representatives to senior administrators at the


national level.


Bishops seats were all taken but three seats.


The newly formed German PRotestant Church battled non


complying protestants in a war called KIRCHENKAMPF


"churchwars"


history has rewritten that to say this war was about trying to


"combat NAziism" in this war which is untrue


It was Nazism trying to eliminate the old testament and the


writings of Paul.




control churches when in fact it was all about controlling the


churches


The new churches motive was to DECRY the Book of


Revelations assumption that christians were adopted Jews.
Barth the Lead chancellor failed to notice that the real reason


was hatred of all Jews!


They blamed the Jews for trying to destroy their children and


bring in doctrines that would destroy their Sunday keeping


churchs. and were trying to tear out the foundations of


christianity..


Any Jewish converts were never allowed to hold any position,


they had to eliminate the old testament, the Sabbath and the


writings of PAul.


They said there would be a JEWISH PROBLEM until the Jews


would confess to the true faith and convert to aryian religion


giving full homage to Hitler and his CLEANSING OF THE


CHURCH!


This was what NAzism was all about
Cleansing the CHURCHES of JEWISH SABBATH


INFLUENCE


Their doctrine eventually assumed
that since Jews killed christ they deserved to suffer in death with


him.


This is how the nazi revolution started.


Through hijacking the churches


calling the Bible believers fundamentalists of old and New


testament
Judaizers
and proclaiming they must be eliminated from all of society


before they destroy our childrnes religious believes with their


false doactrine


I bet you didnt know that


I did


the title of this thread is very offensive
it is hateful
it is hitler
it is the persecution of true Bible believers


it needs to be removed.
 
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here is a better layout
HITLER AND NAZZIISM was a CHURCH WAR

Was a RELIGIOUS WAR
With concordat signed catholic church backing them
against
TRUE BIBLE DOCTRINES exposing their corrupt
Sunday keeping adulterating religion.

The German christian nazi's
Arose from RELIGION debate.
The Nazi’s decided to kill those who spoke against their Sunday.
Their desire to control the Bible interpretations to allow false doctrines spread from a religion to a control of the country.
They needed to turn all Bible based religions
into churches that came in line with their false doctrines…

Here is how they did it.

They sought a Christianity that was racially based christianity
with Nazi ideology, German christians sang nationalist hymns that praised hitler, and callled him savior.
Storm troopers of christ,
the Germanic christians called themselves!
These were the nazi storm troopers!
The PEOPLES CHURCH (anything but)
They demanded the de-Judaizing of Christianity
and demanded a liberation of christianity from the Un-German Old Testament,

and from St. Paul in the New testament
They claimed Jesus had not been a Jew
but a German ARyan hero who opposed all the Jews!
A German christian pastor in Wurtemmburg
described the "worst enemy of the church"
as the "Jewish nature that has infiltrated us"
(The Sabbath issue, which is throughout the whole Bible)
Despite their small numbers The German Christians used National church elections over OTHER DENOMINATIONSon July 23 1933

By spreading fear that Jews were taking over their religion,,,
to gain control of all the other PROTESTANT CHURCHS who believed the
WHOLE BIBLE...
They recieved two thirds of the vote to capture most positions
from parish representatives to senior administrators at the
national level.
Bishops seats were all taken but three seats. The newly formed German PRotestant Church battled non complying protestants in a war called KIRCHENKAMPF
"churchwars" history has rewritten that to say this war was about trying to
"combat NAziism" in this war which is untrue It was Nazism trying to eliminate the old testament and the writings of Paul. control churches when in fact it was all about controlling the
churches The new churches motive was to DECRY the Book of
Revelations assumption that christians were adopted Jews. Barth the Lead chancellor failed to notice that the real reason
was hatred of all Jews! They blamed the Jews for trying to destroy their children and
bring in doctrines that would destroy their Sunday keeping
churchs. and were trying to tear out the foundations of
christianity.. Any Jewish converts were never allowed to hold any position,
they had to eliminate the old testament, the Sabbath and the
writings of PAul. They said there would be a JEWISH PROBLEM until the Jews
would confess to the true faith and convert to aryian religion
giving full homage to Hitler and his CLEANSING OF THE
CHURCH! This was what NAzism was all about Cleansing the CHURCHES of JEWISH SABBATH
INFLUENCE Their doctrine eventually assumed that since Jews killed christ they deserved to suffer in death with
him. This is how the nazi revolution started. Through hijacking the churches calling the Bible believers fundamentalists of old and New
testament Judaizers and proclaiming they must be eliminated from all of society
before they destroy our childrnes religious believes with their
false doactrine I bet you didnt know that I did the title of this thread is very offensive it is hateful it is hitler it is the persecution of true Bible believers it needs to be removed.
 
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The title of this thread is extremely offensive NAziism.
If you were in Europe you would be put in jail.

Well documented from THEIR FILES
in a book
called

Hitlers shadow war: The holocaust and world war II.
 
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the persecution and murder of the Jews,
Slavs,
and other groups
who kept the Sabbath
was Hitler's primary effort
during the war,
not the conquest of Europe.
According to McKale,
Hitler and the Nazi leadership
used the military campaigns
of the war as a cover
for a genocidal program
that centered on the Final Solution.

Removing the Sabbath and leaving their false doctrine of sunday worship intact.


anyone who believed the old and new testament and the Sabbath, even the walsensians were killed

The Bible says it is coming again.
there will be two groups

Sabbath keepers and Bible keepers
and
Nazi's

Rev 12:17
And the dragon was wroth
with the woman,
and went to make war
with the remnant of her seed,
which keep the commandments of God, (#2 no idols and #4 Sabbath and #7 No divorce and remarriage)
and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. (The faith of Jesus by faith)



there will be a false flag initiated war in europe

the final solution will come again



You will either be shooting at the Jews
or running with them



 
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Anyone using the term Judaizer, is a Nazi.
Spoken like a true Judaizer or Messianic.

For that makes Paul a Nazi, because he uses the term in Gal 2:14.

Iousaizo = to Judaize; i.e., to conform to Jewish religious practices and manners, "to live as do the Jews"
 

Hizikyah

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Spoken like a true Judaizer or Messianic.

For that makes Paul a Nazi, because he uses the term in Gal 2:14.

Iousaizo = to Judaize; i.e., to conform to Jewish religious practices and manners, "to live as do the Jews"
And because of Shaul's writings we can see what he thought a "judaizer" and what most here think a "judaizer" is, are 2 different things:

Romans 3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law!"

the word Law is: 3551. nomos
nomos: that which is assigned, hence usage, law
Original Word: νόμος, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: nomos
Phonetic Spelling: (nom'-os)
Short Definition: a law, the Mosaic Law
Definition: usage, custom, law; in NT: of law in general, plur: of divine laws; of a force or influence impelling to action; of the Mosaic law; meton: of the books which contain the law, the Pentateuch, the Old Testament scriptures in general.

Acts 24:14, "But I confess this to you, that after the way which they call heresy--so I worship the Father of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the Law and in the Prophets."

No Judaizers are those who teach a law of the Pharisees which is called Judaisim today.

Mattithyah 15:3, "But He answered, and said to them: And why do you transgress the Laws of Yahweh by your traditions?"
 
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And because of Shaul's writings we can see what he thought a "judaizer" and what most here think a "judaizer" is, are 2 different things:
"Judaizer" is Paul's word and it means what Paul says it means: "to live as do the Jews."

Romans 3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law through the faith? By no means!
Rather, we establish the Law!"
Yes, we establish the law in Mt 22:37-40; Ro 13:8-10.

We establish the law by establishing the right use of the law,

i.e., we establish its standing by permanently setting it on the right basis.

Judaizers (Gal 2:14) and Messianics attempt to fix it on the wrong basis, as necessary for salvation.

Whereas, the right basis is
that, although we cannot be saved by it as a covenant,
we submit to it in Christ's two commandments (Mt 22:37-40),
which are subject to the law of grace.

We don't overthrow the law, we establish it on its right basis, subordinate to the law of grace
as revealed by the Son in these last days (Heb 1:1-2) through the NT writers.

It's the NT subordination of the law to grace that Judaizers and Messianics want to overthrow.

Their objection has been going on since the days of Paul, for over 2000 years now.

No Judaizers are those who teach a law of the Pharisees which is called Judaisim today.
Judaizing is what Paul says it is: "to live as do the Jews."
 
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Hizikyah

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"Judaizer" is Paul's word and it means what Paul says it means: "to live as do the Jews."


Yes, we establish the law in Mt 22:37-40; Ro 13:8-10.

We establish the law by establishing the right use of the law,

i.e., we establish its standing by permanently setting it on the right basis.

Judaizers (Gal 2:14) and Messianics attempt to fix it on the wrong basis, as necessary for salvation.

Whereas, the right basis is
that, although we cannot be saved by it as a covenant,
we submit to it in Christ's two commandments (Mt 22:37-40),
which are subject to the law of grace.

We don't overthrow the law, we establish it on its right basis, subordinate to the law of grace
as revealed by the Son in these last days (Heb 1:1-2) through the NT writers.

It's the NT subordination of the law to grace that Judaizers and Messianics want to overthrow.

Their objection has been going on since the days of Paul, for over 2000 years now.
All of the Jews in Shaul's day kept pharisee law, Shaul himself did before Messiah called him.

Mark 7:7-9, "But in vain do they worship Me, teaching as doctrine the commandments of men. For laying aside the Law of Yahweh, you hold the tradition of men! Then He said to them: How well you reject the Law of Yahweh, so that you may keep your own tradition!"
 
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danschance

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Anyone using the term Judaizer, is a Nazi.
The term Nazi is offensive and has no place here. The term Judiazers is a biblical term for Christians who insist we become more like a Jew. If it offends you then please take the matter up with God. Judaizers are offensive to me for adding obsolete things to the gospel of Christ
 
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And because of Shaul's writings we can see what he thought a "judaizer" and what most here think a "judaizer" is, are 2 different things:

Romans 3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law!"

the word Law is: 3551. nomos
nomos: that which is assigned, hence usage, law
Original Word: νόμος, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: nomos
Phonetic Spelling: (nom'-os)
Short Definition: a law, the Mosaic Law
Definition: usage, custom, law; in NT: of law in general, plur: of divine laws; of a force or influence impelling to action; of the Mosaic law; meton: of the books which contain the law, the Pentateuch, the Old Testament scriptures in general.

Acts 24:14, "But I confess this to you, that after the way which they call heresy--so I worship the Father of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the Law and in the Prophets."

No Judaizers are those who teach a law of the Pharisees which is called Judaisim today.

Mattithyah 15:3, "But He answered, and said to them: And why do you transgress the Laws of Yahweh by your traditions?"
Most often I ignore what you write as you use non-standard biblical nomenclature.
 
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All of the Jews in Shaul's day kept pharisee law, Shaul himself did before Messiah called him.
And that is what Paul meant by Judaizer, "on who lives as do the Jews."

There were some even among the believers (Ac 15:5),

and they are still "alive and well" with us today, 2000 years later.
 
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Laodicea

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The term Nazi is offensive and has no place here. The term Judiazers is a biblical term for Christians who insist we become more like a Jew. If it offends you then please take the matter up with God. Judaizers are offensive to me for adding obsolete things to the gospel of Christ
Romans 2:28-29 KJV
(28) For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
(29) But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.


According to this we should be a Jew inwardly.
 
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danschance

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Spoken like a true Judaizer or Messianic.

For that makes Paul a Nazi, because he uses the term in Gal 2:14.

Iousaizo = to Judaize; i.e., to conform to Jewish religious practices and manners, "to live as do the Jews"
Well said. The man is a clear troll. I was once yelled at by an old woman in a Jewish district. She called me a Nazi! In her mind it was the worst insult she could think of. My family fought in WWII and it is possible they could of liberated her family from the concentrartation camps, yet she would call me a Nazi.
 
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Romans 2:28-29 KJV
(28) For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
(29) But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.


According to this we should be a Jew inwardly.
Agreed, but not a Judaizer of any stripe.
 

Hizikyah

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Most often I ignore what you write as you use non-standard biblical nomenclature.
Thank you for the compliment!

Definition of HERETIC
1: a dissenter from established religious dogma; especially : a baptized member of the Roman Catholic Church who disavows a revealed truth
2: one who dissents from an accepted belief or doctrine : nonconformist

Nothing there about Scriptual truth, only if you dont go with the crowd.

Revelation 12:9, "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, who deceives the whole world...."

Mattithyah 24:24, "For there will arise false messiahs and false prophets who will show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they would deceive the very elect."

Mattithyah 24:20-22, "But pray that your flight will not be in the winter, nor on the Sabbath Day, For then will be great tribulation, such as has not come to pass since the beginning of the world to this time--no, nor ever will be. And unless those days were shortened, there would no flesh be saved; but for the elect's sake, those days will be shortened."

You better teach Jesus your no Sabbath doctrine, because He is still teaching that so called, "old Jew thing".

Acts 24:14, "But I confess this to you, that after the way which they call heresy--so I worship the Father of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the Law and in the Prophets."
 
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Elin said:
LookuptoseeJesus said:
Anyone using the term Judaizer, is a Nazi.
Spoken like a true Judaizer or Messianic.

For that makes Paul a Nazi, because he uses the term in Gal 2:14.

Iousaizo = to Judaize; i.e., to conform to Jewish religious practices and manners, "to live as do the Jews"
Well said. The man is a clear troll. I was once yelled at by an old woman in a Jewish district. She called me a Nazi! In her mind it was the worst insult she could think of. My family fought in WWII and it is possible they could of liberated her family from the concentrartation camps, yet she would call me a Nazi.
Note to self: LookuptoseeJesus is a troll.
 
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So according to your understanding
what is the difference between a Jew inwardly and a Judaizer?
A Jew inwardly, per Ro 2:29, is one whose heart is circumcised by the Holy Spirit, not by the law.

A Judaizer, per Gal 2:14, is one who "lives as do the Jews."
 
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Laodicea

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A Jew inwardly, per Ro 2:29, is one whose heart is circumcised by the Holy Spirit, not by the law.

A Judaizer, per Gal 2:14, is one who "lives as do the Jews."

Galatians is talking about salvation by works which is what the Jews taught. They added many laws not in the commandments of God, laws which made void the law of God.

To be a Jew inwardly is to keep the law of God because we love Him.

So the issue should not be over the law of God, but why we keep the law of God.