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Ariel, also when my husband and I were first Christians we were studying what the leadership was to do, what their purpose was. So thinking on your question, 
this came to mind although, of course its not exhaustive.
Ephesians 4:11-16
What's the purpose of the Apostle, Prophet, Evangelist, Pastor, Teacher?
~ For the equipping of the saints for the work of service,
~ To the building up of the body of Christ;
For How long?
~until we all attain to the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a mature man, to the measure of the stature which belongs to the fullness of Christ.
What's are the results
~ we are no longer to be children, tossed here and there by waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, by craftiness in deceitful scheming; but speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in all aspects into Him who is the head, even Christ, from whom the whole body, being fitted and held together by what every joint supplies, according to the proper working of each individual part, causes the growth of the body for the building up of itself in love.
this came to mind although, of course its not exhaustive.Ephesians 4:11-16
What's the purpose of the Apostle, Prophet, Evangelist, Pastor, Teacher?
~ For the equipping of the saints for the work of service,
~ To the building up of the body of Christ;
For How long?
~until we all attain to the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a mature man, to the measure of the stature which belongs to the fullness of Christ.
What's are the results
~ we are no longer to be children, tossed here and there by waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, by craftiness in deceitful scheming; but speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in all aspects into Him who is the head, even Christ, from whom the whole body, being fitted and held together by what every joint supplies, according to the proper working of each individual part, causes the growth of the body for the building up of itself in love.
So many people like to take 1 Tim 2:12 and overemphasis it without gleaning what the rest of the Bible has to say or illustrate about the women teaching.
ALL SCRIPTURE is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, (2 Tim 3:16). Therefore, we are not limited to 1 Tim 2:12.
When we are talking about TEACHING it is helpful to study the Bible definitions of TEACH. The Bible defines TEACH as to chastise, instruct -- bind, chasten, correct, punish, reform, reprove, direction, instruction, law, custom, ruling, cause to learn, IMPART KNOWLEDGE, disseminate information.
Definition Sources: Strong's Hebrew: 3256. יָסַר (yasar) -- to discipline, chasten, admonish
Proverbs 31:26 Lexicon: She opens her mouth in wisdom, And the teaching of kindness is on her tongue.
Strong's Greek: 1321. διδάσκω (didaskó) -- to teach
How should women teach? A virtuous woman "speaks with wisdom, and faithful INSTRUCTION is on her tongue." Pr 31:26
Biblical examples of women teaching men:
King Lemuel's mother TAUGHT him the wisdom contained in Proverb 31.
- The words of king Lemuel, the prophecy that his mother taught him (Pr 31:1).
Rahab gave the Israeli spies instructions about how to escape out of the city. She imparted knowledge to them.
Deborah was a prophet and judge. She held court and imparted wisdom to the men and women of Israel concerning their disputes. Judges 4:1-4
Wise woman of Abel imparted knowledge (wise advice) to Joab and the men and women in her city. She spoke up at a time when the men in her city were to passive and/or afraid to do it. 2 Samuel 20:16-22
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2Sam 20:16-2Sam 20:22
The prophet Huldah was sought after because of her wisdom. Huldah imparted wisdom to king Josiah via his officials about a very important book of law. 2 Kings 22:11-20
Abigail imparted knowledge (wise advice) to David. As a result, David spared the life of Abigail's foolish husband and the rest of the men in her household.
1 Samuel chapter 25
1 Samuel 25 NIV
Priscilla helped her husband (impart knowledge) explain to Apollos the way of God more adequately. Acts 18:24
The woman at the well imparted knowledge (her testimony) to many of the men and women in her town. As a result, many men and women from that town believed in Jesus. John chapter 4
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+4
Biblical examples of wives who taught their husbands:
Sarah instructed and imparted wisdom to Abraham concerning a very important household matter, and God told Abraham to obey Sarah:
The child grew and was weaned, and on the day Isaac was weaned Abraham held a great feast.9But Sarah saw that the son whom Hagar the Egyptian had borne to Abraham was mocking, 10and she said to Abraham, “Get rid of that slave woman and her son, for that woman’s son will never share in the inheritance with my son Isaac.” 11The matter distressed Abraham greatly because it concerned his son. 12But God said to him, “Do not be so distressed about the boy and your slave woman. Listen to whatever Sarah tells you, because it is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned. 13I will make the son of the slave into a nation also, because he is your offspring.” Gen 21:11-13
Queen Esther imparted knowledge to her husband about evil Haman and his plan to annihilate the Jews. She basically imparted wisdom to her husband about a situation that was going on right up under his nose in his own home and kingdom. As a result, Esther is honored for risking her life and saving the Jews from annihilation.
So yeah, women are capable of teaching (imparting knowledge) to men, and there are some examples of that in the Bible. Some of this may be a bit redundant because others here may have referenced some of it. However, I don't know if you are married, but it would be very counterproductive for a husband to discount or devalue wisdom from his wife simply because she's a woman. After all, God used Sarah to instruct Abraham in Gen 21:12. God could have given the message directly to Abraham, but God chose to have Abraham obey Sarah instead.
2 Kings 22:11-20New International Version (NIV)
11 When the king heard the words of the Book of the Law, he tore his robes. 12 He gave these orders to Hilkiah the priest, Ahikam son of Shaphan, Akbor son of Micaiah, Shaphan the secretary and Asaiah the king’s attendant: 13 “Go and inquireof the Lord for me and for the people and for all Judah about what is written in this book that has been found. Great is the Lord’s anger that burns against us because those who have gone before us have not obeyed the words of this book; they have not acted in accordance with all that is written there concerning us.”
14 Hilkiah the priest, Ahikam, Akbor, Shaphan and Asaiah went to speak to the prophet Huldah, who was the wife of Shallum son of Tikvah, the son of Harhas, keeper of the wardrobe. She lived in Jerusalem, in the New Quarter.
15 She said to them, “This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: Tell the man who sent you to me, 16 ‘This is what the Lord says: I am going to bring disaster on this place and its people, according to everything written in the book the king of Judah has read. 17 Because they have forsaken me and burned incense to other gods and aroused my anger by all the idols their hands have made,[a] my anger will burn against this place and will not be quenched.’ 18 Tell the king of Judah, who sent you to inquire of the Lord, ‘This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says concerning the words you heard: 19 Because your heart was responsive and you humbled yourself before the Lord when you heard what I have spoken against this place and its people—that they would become a curse[b] and be laid waste—and because you tore your robes and wept in my presence, I also have heard you, declares the Lord. 20 Therefore I will gather you to your ancestors, and you will be buried in peace. Your eyes will not see all the disaster I am going to bring on this place.’”
So they took her answer back to the king.
11 When the king heard the words of the Book of the Law, he tore his robes. 12 He gave these orders to Hilkiah the priest, Ahikam son of Shaphan, Akbor son of Micaiah, Shaphan the secretary and Asaiah the king’s attendant: 13 “Go and inquireof the Lord for me and for the people and for all Judah about what is written in this book that has been found. Great is the Lord’s anger that burns against us because those who have gone before us have not obeyed the words of this book; they have not acted in accordance with all that is written there concerning us.”
14 Hilkiah the priest, Ahikam, Akbor, Shaphan and Asaiah went to speak to the prophet Huldah, who was the wife of Shallum son of Tikvah, the son of Harhas, keeper of the wardrobe. She lived in Jerusalem, in the New Quarter.
15 She said to them, “This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: Tell the man who sent you to me, 16 ‘This is what the Lord says: I am going to bring disaster on this place and its people, according to everything written in the book the king of Judah has read. 17 Because they have forsaken me and burned incense to other gods and aroused my anger by all the idols their hands have made,[a] my anger will burn against this place and will not be quenched.’ 18 Tell the king of Judah, who sent you to inquire of the Lord, ‘This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says concerning the words you heard: 19 Because your heart was responsive and you humbled yourself before the Lord when you heard what I have spoken against this place and its people—that they would become a curse[b] and be laid waste—and because you tore your robes and wept in my presence, I also have heard you, declares the Lord. 20 Therefore I will gather you to your ancestors, and you will be buried in peace. Your eyes will not see all the disaster I am going to bring on this place.’”
So they took her answer back to the king.
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Honestly? My eyes/mind refuses to do multi-color/font/partial sentences. (Also too small font, but you do give me a size I can read.) I skip over that section. Even when I try to read it, it feels like a record skipping, so I don't get anywhere. And, it's not just you, that's true for anytime someone does that.
And, I'm also suspect when folks bring out little-known Bible versions to prove their case. I immediately wonder, "What's wrong with the usual versions? Do usual versions conflict with what this little-known version says, so I'm being manipulated to believe something because someone found something to go with their wants?"
And, then when the person words a question in such a way, that either I have to agree with him or appear to be a bozo, my B(S)arometer starts making loud noises. Between the three problems, and past experience with you, I gave up trying to figure out what your talking about.
And, I'm also suspect when folks bring out little-known Bible versions to prove their case. I immediately wonder, "What's wrong with the usual versions? Do usual versions conflict with what this little-known version says, so I'm being manipulated to believe something because someone found something to go with their wants?"
And, then when the person words a question in such a way, that either I have to agree with him or appear to be a bozo, my B(S)arometer starts making loud noises. Between the three problems, and past experience with you, I gave up trying to figure out what your talking about.
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Oh come now! Probably the exact same number that were "influenced" by men! Unless, of course, you can find any sect that accepts only one gender.
Women have been influencing men since Eve. And men have been influencing women since Adam. Suddenly one gender or the other isn't supposed to? Try telling that to your wife or mother. She'll enjoy the laugh. lol
Women have been influencing men since Eve. And men have been influencing women since Adam. Suddenly one gender or the other isn't supposed to? Try telling that to your wife or mother. She'll enjoy the laugh. lol
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Mormons, Joseph Smith, male
Jehovah's Witnesses, Charles Taze Russell, male
Orthodox Baha'i, Mason Remey, male
The New Church, Emanuel Swedenborg, male
Wahabi Islam, Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab, male
Christadelphians, John Thomas, male
as against...
Seventh-Day Adventists, Ellen G. White, female
Christian Science, Mary Baker Eddy, female
Yes, there are many more. Here's a list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_founders_of_religious_traditions
You'll find the founders are, numerically, overwhelmingly male.
Yes; I think he and I posted about the same time.
Jehovah's Witnesses, Charles Taze Russell, male
Orthodox Baha'i, Mason Remey, male
The New Church, Emanuel Swedenborg, male
Wahabi Islam, Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab, male
Christadelphians, John Thomas, male
as against...
Seventh-Day Adventists, Ellen G. White, female
Christian Science, Mary Baker Eddy, female
Yes, there are many more. Here's a list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_founders_of_religious_traditions
You'll find the founders are, numerically, overwhelmingly male.
Yes; I think he and I posted about the same time.
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Actually, I very much do agree with biblical slavery. I can't believe people were so stupid to give it up! It's very reasonable. If America had it, there would be no need for Welfare, Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid, no food stamps, etc. America would be out of the business of holding people down!
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Not kind of like family. It literally is family. Family has to take you in, and you have to work for them in the best way you can. Bonus points, every time what you do profits the family, you get 10%. The deal is worked out for seven years (or the Year of Jubilee, whichever comes first), and at the end of that seven years, you can keep the profit you gained and buy yourself some new land to start over.
And, if you can't, because you're old or disabled, then you get a pierce ear, and you choose to stay a slave with your family.
And, if you can't, because you're old or disabled, then you get a pierce ear, and you choose to stay a slave with your family.
