born gay

[HoldingOn2013]

Its great to share our faith and try to give our opinions/beliefs/advise etc... But we need to respect each other. Just makes me sad to read some comments, what ever happened to ....
[h=3]2 John 1:4-6[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)

[h=3]Walk in Christ’s Commandments[/h][SUP]4 [/SUP]I rejoiced greatly that I have found some of your children walking in truth, as we received commandment from the Father. [SUP]5 [/SUP]And now I plead with you, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment to you, but that which we have had from the beginning: that we love one another. [SUP]6 [/SUP]This is love, that we walk according to His commandments. This is the commandment, that as you have heard from the beginning, you should walk in it.

and....

[h=3]Luke 6:40-42[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)

[SUP]40 [/SUP]A disciple is not above his teacher, but everyone who is perfectly trained will be like his teacher. [SUP]41 [/SUP]And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not perceive the plank in your own eye? [SUP]42 [/SUP]Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Brother, let me remove the speck that is in your eye,’ when you yourself do not see the plank that is in your own eye? Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck that is in your brother’s eye.

 

[Batman007]

This is the best way i know of to teach children how not to get a std. Stay a virgins and marry a virgin and stay faithful to each other and there is nothing to worry about. Is there any other way?

Oh sure, that's the best one in theory. But realistically it's horrendous, because most teenagers aren't going to wait no matter what their parents or schools tell them.

Yes, there is another way. Teach kids how to have safe sex. Sex education. Contraceptives, birth control, etc. And I'm not saying abstinence only SHOULDN'T be taught, I just don't think it should be the only sex education teenagers receive, because that's been shown to increase rates of unplanned pregnancies and STDs.

 

[Earlmayknowornot]

But those means often fail. They way of the Lord is just what I said. But, we take our on approach and guess what, it fails. Yes, modern society doesn't accept that. We teach our children "just have safe sex" but, is any sex safe accept that of husband and wife who are faithful to each other. yes or no?

 

[Batman007]

But those means often fail. They way of the Lord is just what I said. But, we take our on approach and guess what, it fails. Yes, modern society doesn't accept that. We teach our children "just have safe sex" but, is any sex safe accept that of husband and wife who are faithful to each other. yes or no?

Often fail? Sometimes fail, yes. But with a good sex education, sexually active teens can better know how to prevent these things from failing. And I can say that unprotected sex will lead to far more STDs and pregnancies than protected sex.

Yes. Do you know much about birth control, because forgive me but it doesn't sound like you do.

 

[Earlmayknowornot]

It's like playing with a snake. sooner or later your gonna get bit. The problem is parents who do the same as their children. They observe and do the same. I will admit that in teenage years the hormones are going wild. That's why they need to be founded in the word. But if daddy cheated or mamma cheated that derails them. That's why Paul said that if one of you be a Christian your children are sealed. That's because the spouse that is teaches the child the way's of God if not then sin reigns.

 

[Earlmayknowornot]

Show me birth control in the Bible. Most were barren and prayed to God for children. Sex today is thought as nothing. But to God it is Holy, He created it and gave it his blessing, but only to husband and wife. Today that has been perverted to casual sex. This is not His will. Okay how do we combat it. Preach the word. Sadly that's not being done. Look before the 60's mostly what I said was practiced. Where were std in the 1950's.

 

[Batman007]

Let me ask you a question, Earlmayknowornot. Do you think sex education should be taught at all?

 

[PS]

I was talking about homosexuals not sexually transmitted infections, but I'll answer anyway because for some reason people tend to lump those two together.

My views on STIs? What do you mean my views? I'd like to avoid them. I think that it's important to teach youth how to have safe sex and to get tested and get partners tested. Otherwise I guess my views is they're probably quite unpleasant.

Of course if a couple wants to remain "faith to each other for life" that's a great idea! I'd encourage that. Good for them. However I think it's very unrealistic to believe that only teaching this to teenagers and kids will reduce the amount of STDs and STIs, and I have statistics to back me up there. It could certainly be taught alongside safe sex, though.

But I still don't understand why you brought up STIs.

I read you like a book. Welcome to my ignore list.

 

[Earlmayknowornot]

Let me ask you a question, Earlmayknowornot. Do you think sex education should be taught at all?

I think it should be taught by the parents and not by a worldly school. That say's it okay if protected. there is no protection and it is a lie. I don't think we should lie to our children. do you? How does a girl feel when she has been defiled by protected sex and her man will have nothing to do with her anymore is there protection against that?

 

[Earlmayknowornot]

Well it seems guess not

 

[Earlmayknowornot]

I will just be honest with you. I have only been with two women in my life. The first was in my sin and it meant nothing. My second is my wife and we enjoy it when we get the chance. I am in no fear of std. because we only have sex with each other. Because she is my wife and I am her husband. Sex is blessed and condoned by God if it is so. He created sex and satan perverted it. amen

 

[loveme1]

Anyone ever considered that sex education can be a double sword?

On the one side we are teaching them to behave correctly..

On the other we are teaching them sex.......

Being open and liberal is proving a mistake we only have to look around the world to see that.

In the past the less you had sexual relations the better... now it seems some are mocked for not having many different
sexual relationships... it is worrying and wrong yet the world encourages this behaviour we have to dig our heels in and teach Good.

We know the exposure is all around us and that should make us more determined to Teach Good against the evil.

I don't want to come across like butter never melted in my mouth, no i have behaved evil and this i hope to use to reach those that view it not evil but good...

 

[MidniteWelder]

Protection within extra-marital affairs is only protection against the flesh,
Not protection against the soul and the internal mental damages which can be incurred from, since sexual sin is the one sin against oneself.
People jumping from one relationship to the next only sets up a habit of behavior for continuing to do so.
Abstinence and faithfulness go hand in hand with setting up the practiced behavior of faithfulness to one lifelong partner.

The schools should be teaching proper relationship behavior in order to prepare the youth for marriage as opposed to sending them out into the world only to have them figure it out on their own only setting them up to offer one bad relationship after another as their teacher.
If you look at what schools teach, mostly preparing for success in life, how often does any school teach how to be a in a relationship which when one becomes married is meant to be for life.
Furthermore a decision which lasts longer than any career choice.
What should be taught in schools is:
Proper morals within how to have a healthy relationship.(by biblical standards)
Not sex without biblical morals. (or even any morals at all)

Anybody notice satan throwing ticking time bombs into marriages only to go off at just the most opportune time?

 

[loveme1]

When i was young i was set on the idea that one should marry then have relations... my friend said what if the person was rubbish in bed.... oh i thought...... we were teenagers and at a young age she considered such a thing.. putting something in my mind casting doubt on what i believed.

Now the lady who the Messiah spoke with at the well had 5 husbands.. so we should not be naive to think that only today loose sexual activity takes place...

 

[ijustwanttheTruth]

My husband said something to me the other day that actually made a lot of sense. People say that their born gay, and he said they may be onto something, after all we are born into sin, and homosexuality is à sin, so being "born" gay actually makes sense.
in a carnal kind of way

i think i believe that homosexuality is an oppressing spirit. and we can be born into demonic oppression. a home or family that has given into to wickedness in powerful ways, and thus, demonic forces feel at home there.
so in that sense. i do think one can be born/ raised with a generational spirit that has authority in one's family. or to be wounded or mistreated in such a way that oppressive demons move in to take advantage of that.

as for the blame? it's all of ours. not any one person. we all share the blame for sin. and we do pass the repercussions of unpaid for sins down to future generations. it's a train. and we have to voluntarily get off if we want out.

a person could stand in sin and blame their parents for passing it down to them but the truth is, they chose it too. we all did. we live in darkness. we stand in darkness. but there is light to choose and there is light to hold.

 

[MidniteWelder]

Now the lady who the Messiah spoke with at the well had 5 husbands.. so we should not be naive to think that only today loose sexual activity takes place...

Neither shall we believe that those things are approved of by the Lord since what Jesus was in effect enlightening her to was bring attention to the fact that those 5 men in the sight of the Lord were still regarded as her husband... whether she acknowledged it or not, and in her case that was due to sexual relations not being room mates.
In other words, we're not to claim the rights of marriage unless we consider ourselves married.

Luke 8:17
For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open.

 

[loveme1]

Neither shall we believe that those things are approved of by the Lord since what Jesus was in effect enlightening her to was bring attention to the fact that those 5 men in the sight of the Lord were still regarded as her husband... whether she acknowledged it or not, and in her case that was due to sexual relations not being room mates.
In other words, we're not to claim the rights of marriage unless we consider ourselves married.

Luke 8:17
For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open.

It was to bring light to the behaviour of people in the past not to justify such things.....

 

[loveme1]

Though in our time it is being advertised and promoted following kids round all day in their ears... the temptation was there and given into long before....

 

[MidniteWelder]

It was to bring light to the behaviour of people in the past not to justify such things.....

I dont think we need to worry about the people of the past

 

[loveme1]

I dont think we need to worry about the people of the past

Worry, no.

Learn from yes