Calvinism - Another Heresy
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I understand the point you are making. I don't entirely agree. I think the will of God is that all men would come to know him and find salvation. The Scripture states that it is God's will that no man perish. The death of Christ was a sacrifice made for all. It is man's choice to accept or reject Christ. God seems to deal with and convict certain individuals more than he deals with others. With some he seems to almost overpower their stubbornness. We can't fully understand the dealings of God with each person. However, none of have an excuse. We all had enough truth in this life to stir us to seek Christ. As Lynn stared earlier even the proof of God within nature condemns us
Because of the hardness of our hearts many of us inflict pain and misery on each other. God doesn't always intervene and allows injustice to happen at times. It doesn't mean his lack of interference is a sign that the cruel acts of others are his will. I view this more that God allows evil people to sin because if he continuously stopped every sin, we'd all be in hell before we reached adulthood
Also, God often uses the evil actions of others to bring judgement upon a group ( look at the countless times he allowed Israel to be conquered and enslaved) or uses these evil acts and the resulting sorrow to work good things in his elect. I think of the verse that says all things work together for good.
Because of the hardness of our hearts many of us inflict pain and misery on each other. God doesn't always intervene and allows injustice to happen at times. It doesn't mean his lack of interference is a sign that the cruel acts of others are his will. I view this more that God allows evil people to sin because if he continuously stopped every sin, we'd all be in hell before we reached adulthood
Also, God often uses the evil actions of others to bring judgement upon a group ( look at the countless times he allowed Israel to be conquered and enslaved) or uses these evil acts and the resulting sorrow to work good things in his elect. I think of the verse that says all things work together for good.
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No I'm sorry that's wrong, forenew means that God knew in advance what people would choose to do when it came to accepting his son.
The Greek is προγινώσκω (proginōskō) and connotes God's foreknowledge of one's actions and decisions, not that God actually knew the person before they were born. God's omniscience doesn't mean he personally knew everybody before they were born, it means he knows everything.
The Greek is προγινώσκω (proginōskō) and connotes God's foreknowledge of one's actions and decisions, not that God actually knew the person before they were born. God's omniscience doesn't mean he personally knew everybody before they were born, it means he knows everything.
Amen.My two cents..(sorry for the rambling)
I would agree and have been guilty of losing my self-control. A fruit of His Spirt. Sharing what we believe the scriptures is teaching is one thing but debate that is listed with other offences such as Homo sexuality another. Debating with what scriptures calls “wicked fist” as a hope of being heard on high in regard to a true fast, the kind that could drive out demons in which the disciples could not, a person will not be heard on high .That kind of false pride comes before a person falls from grace only to be awoken by grace. . .A true fast (putting away pride) comes by offering the gospel as that which according to that portion of scripture found in Isaiah 58. It can loosen the band of wickedness and make our burden lighter as we are yoked with Christ. And to deal the bread of the living word in a hope God will cause a growth and bring in the poor or bankrupt in spirit that are not part of the spiritual house of God, the church. And when we see them naked we hope the gospel will cloth them in His righteousness and not hide them from our own flesh but as we teach other we hope it will affect us in the same way.. Many metaphors are found in that parable to represent the gospel ;”not seen” (Isiah 58).
And again is why the disciples could not cast them out seeing at the same time they were playing again and again “who is the greatest” gets venerated the highest, as their form of the gospel, having a faith in that seen (each other) .and not Him, not seen, God.
Matthew 17:21 Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.......... (not by playing: "who is the greatest" as the disciples did.
We have been given one day a week from our normal work that we need to eat as a ongoing ceremonial law (not a moral law) by which we cannot judge each other.B ut rather we can being moved by the Spirit of Christ to work to bring the gospel out, used to typify the eternal rest we do have in Him.
Isiah 58 it’s a beautiful portion of scripture. Which I believe does help us understand what Christ did say when the disciples could not cast out the lying spirits.
Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily: and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of the LORD shall be thy rereward.Then shalt thou call, and the LORD shall answer; thou shalt cry, and he shall say, Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking vanity; And if thou draw out thy soul to the hungry, and satisfy the afflicted soul; then shall thy light rise in obscurity, and thy darkness be as the noon day: Isa 58:6
You're revealing the shallowness of your own walk with Jesus with that statement. I can't tell you how many times He has revealed, corrected and guided my own personal thoughts and intentions now, past and future. And that's just nobody me. Scripture says, He knows our thoughts a far off, He knows my rising up and my laying down. He knew me before I was knit in my mother's womb. That one right there qualifies and reveals Him. Before you began as a single cell. That's amazing and unexplainable. Find something else to doubt.
For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Hebrews 4:12 NKJV
http://bible.com/114/heb.4.12.NKJV
For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Hebrews 4:12 NKJV
http://bible.com/114/heb.4.12.NKJV
I only allow Scripture to define who God is not what I think God should be. Yes, God knows our thoughts. That's knowledge to be known. God knows when I rise and when I lay down. That's knowledge to be known. God knows every count of every sand in the sea. That's knowledge to be known by God. But please show Scripture stating God knows every decision man will ever make. It's just not there.
God knows all that can be known. He has declared certain things in His word that will come to pass. Why don't we allow Scripture to define what is knowledge for a perfect, all-knowing God? In our small minds God must know all decisions in the future. But has God chosen to limit His knowledge when dealing with man when faced with His word?
If He knows any, He knows all. He can call exact prophecy out thousands of years in advance.
Your argument is too intellectual. We are called to worship in spirit and truth. The experiential is just as important as the intellectual. Both are equally important. Just as in any relationship. There's the info and then there's what it means and how it applies. God is beyond our finding out.
God Himself said, is there anything too difficult for me. I think that counts as part of the "anything "
Your argument is too intellectual. We are called to worship in spirit and truth. The experiential is just as important as the intellectual. Both are equally important. Just as in any relationship. There's the info and then there's what it means and how it applies. God is beyond our finding out.
God Himself said, is there anything too difficult for me. I think that counts as part of the "anything "
