Can the Trinity be Biblically proven?
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Where in The KJV Bible does it record any man or woman was ever Water Baptized in "Father, Son, Holy Ghost"??? We do read in Matthew 28.verse 19 where Jesus did command his Apostles to ".....Baptizing them IN THE NAME of The Father, and of the Son, and The Holy Ghost". But none of The Apostles of Jesus ever Water Baptized in "Father, Son, Holy Ghost".
Why? Because Jesus told them in Matthew 28 verse 19 to "Baptized IN THE NAME OF....."
I'm a Father, and also.a Son..
But that is not MY NAME...The NAME OF THE FATHER, AND OF THE SON, AND OF THE HOLY GHOST IS JESUS CHRIST.
The evidence is found in Acts 2 verse 38/ Acts 10 : verses 43-48/ Acts 19 verses 1-7/Acts Chapter 8.
Why? Because Jesus told them in Matthew 28 verse 19 to "Baptized IN THE NAME OF....."
I'm a Father, and also.a Son..
But that is not MY NAME...The NAME OF THE FATHER, AND OF THE SON, AND OF THE HOLY GHOST IS JESUS CHRIST.
The evidence is found in Acts 2 verse 38/ Acts 10 : verses 43-48/ Acts 19 verses 1-7/Acts Chapter 8.
Come on dude, is that the best you got, one liners containg three or four words? Why don't your actually "engage" in a conversation, afterall this is a "chat" site. Where's your "chating?" For example, if you feel the trintity is false or not in the Bible give us your reasons why? And no, your not the one who knocks, your the one that's afraid to answer the door. 
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
Come on dude, is that the best you got, one liners containg three or four words? Why don't your actually "engage" in a conversation, afterall this is a "chat" site. Where's your "chating?" For example, if you feel the trintity is false or not in the Bible give us your reasons why? And no, your not the one who knocks, your the one that's afraid to answer the door.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
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No, its not "open to interpretation". Christianity is not a free for all where anything that one decides to believe can legitimately be claimed as a Christian belief. Deliberate conscious rejection of one or more of the essentials of the Christian faith is to reject the faith that once and for all has been entrusted to us. And the doctrine of the Trinity is on everyones list of the essentials of our Christian faith.
Jesus commanded His disciples to baptise in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Peter did not say in what Name he baptised. He was merely telling the crowds they needed to be baptised 'in the name of Jesus'. In my view he would in fact actually follow Jesus instructions. Peter was not outlining the full details of what the baptism involved. He was merely stating the fact in as few necessary words as possible. Otherwise we have Peter clashing with Jesus right from the beginning.
To say any other is to make nonsense of Scripture.
To say any other is to make nonsense of Scripture.
My friend if you are willing to trust in that for your salvation then do so. Take the risk if you wish. It is your salvation that is at stake. I believe otherwise.
His Name the LORD Jesus Christ, His only begotten Son, has to be believed in for salvation and the Scripture specifically states the fact that He is God (among others 2 Peter 1.1).
His Name the LORD Jesus Christ, His only begotten Son, has to be believed in for salvation and the Scripture specifically states the fact that He is God (among others 2 Peter 1.1).
So quasar, if the Son is not co-equal or co-eternal with His Father then please explain John 5:17,18, "But He/Jesus answered them, My Father is working until now, and I Myself am working." Vs18, For this cause therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because he not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling GOD HIS OWN FATHER, MAKING HIMSELF EQUAL WITH GOD."
And regarding you statement, "God makes it clear in the OT He is eternal, that there is no other God but He Himself." Ok fine, then explain Micah 5:2, "But as for you , Bethlehem Ephrathah, Too little to be among the clans of Judah, FROM YOU ONE WILL GO FORTH FOR ME TO BE RULER IN ISRAEL; HIS GOINGS FORTH ARE FROM LONG AGO, FROM THE DAYS OF ETERNITY." Who's goings forth are from the days of eternity in this verse quasar? What if I told you that His goings forth have also been in the OT?
You also quoted Isaiah 43:10, but what about vs11? "I, even I, and the Lord, AND THERE IS NO SAVIOR BESIDES ME." If your going to follow strict rules of interpretation then you should take it to its logical conclusion. God says there is no Savior besides Him but yet Luke 2:11 says, "for today in the city of David there HAS BEEN BORN FOR YOU A SAVIOR, WHO IS CHIRST THE LORD."
You then brought up Isaiah 44:6 where it says, "I am the first and the last, And there is no God besides Me." Who is the first and last at Revelation 1:17,18? "And when I say Him, I fell at His feet as a dead man. And He laid His right hand on me, saying, Do not be afraid; I am the first and the last, vs18, and the living One; and I was dead, and behold I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of death and of Hades."
Revelation 1:7,8, "Behold He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. Even so, Amen. Now look at vs8, "I am the Alpha and the Omega, says the Lord God, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty." Who is this quasar? Which person was dead and is alive, the first and the last and the one that is coming? Is it Jesus Christ or God the Father?
It's hard to string a bunch of verses together to prove a point but it's a different story to tie them together or reconcile them so they are in harmony with each other. I'm just trying to help and I'm not trying to make you look foolish. Even at your age you should at least be flexable and keep an open mind, in short no one is to old to learn.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
And regarding you statement, "God makes it clear in the OT He is eternal, that there is no other God but He Himself." Ok fine, then explain Micah 5:2, "But as for you , Bethlehem Ephrathah, Too little to be among the clans of Judah, FROM YOU ONE WILL GO FORTH FOR ME TO BE RULER IN ISRAEL; HIS GOINGS FORTH ARE FROM LONG AGO, FROM THE DAYS OF ETERNITY." Who's goings forth are from the days of eternity in this verse quasar? What if I told you that His goings forth have also been in the OT?
You also quoted Isaiah 43:10, but what about vs11? "I, even I, and the Lord, AND THERE IS NO SAVIOR BESIDES ME." If your going to follow strict rules of interpretation then you should take it to its logical conclusion. God says there is no Savior besides Him but yet Luke 2:11 says, "for today in the city of David there HAS BEEN BORN FOR YOU A SAVIOR, WHO IS CHIRST THE LORD."
You then brought up Isaiah 44:6 where it says, "I am the first and the last, And there is no God besides Me." Who is the first and last at Revelation 1:17,18? "And when I say Him, I fell at His feet as a dead man. And He laid His right hand on me, saying, Do not be afraid; I am the first and the last, vs18, and the living One; and I was dead, and behold I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of death and of Hades."
Revelation 1:7,8, "Behold He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. Even so, Amen. Now look at vs8, "I am the Alpha and the Omega, says the Lord God, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty." Who is this quasar? Which person was dead and is alive, the first and the last and the one that is coming? Is it Jesus Christ or God the Father?
It's hard to string a bunch of verses together to prove a point but it's a different story to tie them together or reconcile them so they are in harmony with each other. I'm just trying to help and I'm not trying to make you look foolish. Even at your age you should at least be flexable and keep an open mind, in short no one is to old to learn.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
My post #4 in this thread provided you with the Biblical description of God and the origin of the pre-incarnate Jesus. God, who is the Holy Spirit and Father of Jesus, is greater than His Son, according to the Scriptures, and is the only God of all eternity, until the incarnation of Jesus. The Father is recorded as the ONLY God in many OT passages such as Isa.45:5. Jesus did not become the Son of God/God the Son until the Holy Spirit produced Him by the virgi Mary, in Mt.1:20 and in Lk.1:35.
When are you going to begin accepting what the Bible tells you, instead of the heretics that remain from the teachings of the RCC and of man?
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"Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'" Jn.20:17 NIV.
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