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mmm notice the dismissal of scripture after the receiving of the deceiving spirits in his response? the Bible is only a tutor until you get the "holy spirit" then you can just go on your "feelings" and "experiences" and approach God with your requests/demands. mmmm



2 John 1

7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 8 Look to yourselves, that we do not lose those things we worked for, but that we[c] may receive a full reward.
9 Whoever transgresses[d] and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him; 11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.


Jesus is GOD IN THE FLESH OF MAN and I walk by the guidance of His Holy SPIRIT which NEVER contradicts His Holy Written Words but illuminates and clarifies His Truth both spoken and written.

soo.... the story is now that we are not to become gods but God was never incarnated in the flesh in the first place?

the only way to make his statement possible: him being equal to Jesus, is either to make us more then God intended or make Jesus less then who He was.

We are God's adopted children made possible through the cruxification and resurrection of Jesus and HIS work on the cross. Jesus is the BEGOTTEN not CREATED Son, Immanuel.

well if you want to continue watching this channel that is your choice.

you've been warned.

if you like to test a person's spirit ask them this question:

what is the difference between THEM and JESUS?

and see if you get a Biblical answer.


You read my posts like you read the bible and make it what you want it to say.
Are you saying that the law is not a schoolmaster to lead you to the Christ and once you have received, that you are no longer under that schoolmaster? Look up schoolmaster in the KJV or Tutorial in other versions.

Jesus was sent by God and give to me what he had from the Father. He may not have done that for you as you indicate but he did me. Jesus was a man with Gods Spirit, Gods anointing the anointed one. So am I under His same anointing, Christ in me, same Spirit in me who was in Christ Jesus, for I have the mind of Christ as Paul said I do. As long as your god is a god of flesh, a man, you will never experience the God of Spirit who was in that man for yourself.

Contradictions come when you say things like you cant have what Jesus , that is contrary to everything God sent Jesus to give to you. A slap in His face that He cant give to you that what He gave in Jesus, or that He can’t take away your sin.

Begotten means an extension of, a reproduction from the original, and if you will do a word search on begotten you will see we all are begotten of Him who Has His Spirit as Jesus did.

What is the difference between Jesus and Them? Whoever them is. But if you are referring to my relationship to our Father, who is God , then there is no difference at all. The only difference is in personality, same Spirit in me who was in Christ Jesus. Same flesh from Adam, Jesus was made of a woman born under the law just as we all are. The difference in you and Jesus is, He received from God His Spirit in Matt 3:16, this seems to be what is lacking for yourself.
 

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Humm, so you are saying that Gods son is the Father? Let me ask you if you had sons, which one of them would be your father?

Jesus claim was he was son of God, same claim I make. My Father is God. Same Father Jesus had.
And yes we in Christ are without sin, Christ came to take that from me. Worked for Jesus and it works for me.

Im still wondering if Christ came to take away the sins of this world, How did He fail to do that? What caused Christ to fail in His mission on earth? Is it because you do not believe that He can?
Firstly you and the Father are NOT one.

Jesus claim he was GOD ALMIGHTY in flesh.

John 8:58
Very truly I tell you, Jesus answered, before Abraham was born, I am!
 
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When I was a boy I heard people say "ask Jesus into your heart". I've heard a few people say that Jesus in your heart is not in the Bible. That's not true; Jesus is in our hearts.

Ephesians 3:17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
 

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When I was a boy I heard people say "ask Jesus into your heart". I've heard a few people say that Jesus in your heart is not in the Bible. That's not true; Jesus is in our hearts.

Ephesians 3:17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
Yes Jesus dwell in our hearts, we believe this :)
 

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Humm, so you are saying that Gods son is the Father? Let me ask you if you had sons, which one of them would be your father?
Yes God's only begotten son Jesus Christ is the father also. They are one and the same.

Father (Yahweh), Son (Jesus Christ) and Holy Spirit are ONE AND THE SAME FOREVER.

YOU ARE NOT ONE WITH HIM, YOU ARE GaryMac.

GaryMac do not try to explain or to figure it out with your human knowledge BECAUSE your nature and God's nature ARE NOT THE SAME unless you read the scripture with spiritual understanding.

John 8:19
hen they asked him, Where is your father? You do not know me or my Father," Jesus replied. If you knew me, you would know my Father also..... (Speaking in general)
 
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When I was a boy I heard people say "ask Jesus into your heart". I've heard a few people say that Jesus in your heart is not in the Bible. That's not true; Jesus is in our hearts.

Ephesians 3:17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
yes Jonathon but we are NOT God or His righteousness. He is our God and our righteousness, not the other way around.

Romans 10:2-4
New King James Version (NKJV)
2 For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted to the righteousness of God. 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.
 
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You read my posts like you read the bible and make it what you want it to say.

no I'd like your post to say something quite different but sadly they don't actually agree with the Bible as I would like them to.

Are you saying that the law is not a schoolmaster to lead you to the Christ and once you have received, that you are no longer under that schoolmaster? Look up schoolmaster in the KJV or Tutorial in other versions.
no need you are referring to these verses.

Galatians 3
19 What purpose then does the law serve? It was added because of transgressions, till the Seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was appointed through angels by the hand of a mediator. 20 Now a mediator does not mediate for one only, but God is one.
21 Is the law then against the promises of God? Certainly not! For if there had been a law given which could have given life, truly righteousness would have been by the law. 22 But the Scripture has confined all under sin, that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe. 23 But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed. 24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.
26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.



Jesus was sent by God and give to me what he had from the Father. He may not have done that for you as you indicate but he did me. Jesus was a man with Gods Spirit, Gods anointing the anointed one. So am I under His same anointing, Christ in me, same Spirit in me who was in Christ Jesus, for I have the mind of Christ as Paul said I do. As long as your god is a god of flesh, a man, you will never experience the God of Spirit who was in that man for yourself. You see I believe Jesus is more then just a man annointed by the Holy Spirit. John the Baptist was a man annointed by the Holy Spirit but Jesus Is MORE. I unlike you actually like reading the Bible and worshipping God who created the universe and not my own fleshy self that you have deceived yourself into thinking is "the God of Spirit" of course it might be a deceiving spirit ... hmmm we'll see....



Contradictions come when you say things like you cant have what Jesus , that is contrary to everything God sent Jesus to give to you. A slap in His face that He cant give to you that what He gave in Jesus, or that He can’t take away your sin.


Jesus has taken away my sins, given me His Holy Spirit and speaks with me daily.it is a slap in God's face to claim to BE God and to covet His Power and position.


Begotten means an extension of, a reproduction from the original, and if you will do a word search on begotten you will see we all are begotten of Him who Has His Spirit as Jesus did.

NO we (I use that term in general for the other true believers on CC) are Adopted sons and daughters.

JESUS is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON!







What is the difference between Jesus and Them? Whoever them is. But if you are referring to my relationship to our Father, who is God , then there is no difference at all. The only difference is in personality, same Spirit in me who was in Christ Jesus. Same flesh from Adam, Jesus was made of a woman born under the law just as we all are. The difference in you and Jesus is, He received from God His Spirit in Matt 3:16, this seems to be what is lacking for yourself.
yes when you are exposed blame it on God's children and their lack of demonic spirits egging them on to become GOD just like Jesus was GOD and BEGOTTEN of the HOLY SPIRIT.

Ignore the whole VIRGIN Birth or the prophecies about Immanuel or other such things....

you should research the word ONLY!

John 1:14
[ The Word Becomes Flesh ] And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

John 1:18
No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.

John 3:16
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

John 3:18
“He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Hebrews 11:17
[ The Faith of the Patriarchs ] By faith Abraham, when he was tested, offered up Isaac, and he who had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,

1 John 4:9
In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him


you sir have been deceived.
 
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Nope that is not what I said at all -- I said -- No man is a god and God is not a man and anyone who claims or says God is a man does not know His Spirit, for God is a Spirit and He resides in the man. here you deny the deity of Christ

Reading the bible is good but better yet applying it in you what it says. It is an instruction manual to lead you to the Christ – Christ in you. Once you have applied what is says and Christ in your being you are no longer under that tutorial, schoolmaster as the KJV calls it. you can throw your Bible away after being saved then?

You can go to the Father for yourself and recieve from Him directly. Yes I can approach God through prayer and ask from Him directly, yet why do I get this feeling that you mean something else?

He in you and you in Him as one.

God is bigger than ME. His Holy Spirit abides in me and guides me but GOD is bigger and His will is what guides His adopted children.

WE do not control GOD. WE are NOT God as JESUS IS God's ONLY begotten Son.
 

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God sent an example of what He wants of us and His example is Jesus Christ. Christianity isn’t about who Jesus was, we all know who he was, Christianity is about who you are and are you like Him.
Everything Jesus said and did was a message intended for you and I as example of what you and I are supposed to be, to be like and to imitate. Do you walk as He walks, do you have the same mind that Jesus had and think and do as he did? Do you have the same Spirit in you? Are you perfect even as your Father in heaven is perfect as Jesus commanded you to be?
If you are anything less than what Jesus was then you have made up your own rules, doctrines, for you’re god. Denying to be as He is and as the one God sent to give to you what he had, to teach you to walk in the same light as He … seems to be the order for most.
Some say we cant be perfect even as our Father in heaven is perfect -- which is a direct denial to follow Gods way and the one He sent for you to follow and be like … That is His way. He is the way, the way you are supposed to be.
If you are anything less from what Jesus was, then you don’t follow Gods way for you at all.
I agree with the title. However, I don't agree with what's been said. If we had to be the same exact thing as Jesus was, we'd all be doomed. Simple as that.
 
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Firstly you and the Father are NOT one.

Jesus claim he was GOD ALMIGHTY in flesh.

John 8:58
Very truly I tell you, Jesus answered, before Abraham was born, I am!
Oh' sure we are Christ in me assures that we are. His Spirit in me is a guarantee.

And No, Jesus claim is he was son of God and that His Father sent him to give to you and I what he had. Follow me, be as I AM, have in you what I have in me, be one with the FAther as I am one with Him.

Do you know why you cant relate to that what Jesus said for you to have and be as He is and one with the Father, same mind, same Spirit in you?
 
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Unity

One ...................................................... by this i dont mean sterile definitions but the intent of John 17

In

three words if defined would sorta deflate alot of this.
It would also edify and teach.
And remove the clanging symbol and attention getting power from the poster.
 
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When I was a boy I heard people say "ask Jesus into your heart". I've heard a few people say that Jesus in your heart is not in the Bible. That's not true; Jesus is in our hearts.

Ephesians 3:17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
Christ means to be anointed of Gods SPirit. Christ in you. Christ is not a man, Christ is Gods Spirit in the man, that man anointed of God. Jesus was the Christ because he was anointed of God.
 

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Christ means to be anointed of Gods SPirit. Christ in you. Christ is not a man, Christ is Gods Spirit in the man, that man anointed of God. Jesus was the Christ because he was anointed of God.
So all of a sudden we can become a Christ?? Uh. no.
 
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Yes God's only begotten son Jesus Christ is the father also. They are one and the same.

Father (Yahweh), Son (Jesus Christ) and Holy Spirit are ONE AND THE SAME FOREVER.

YOU ARE NOT ONE WITH HIM, YOU ARE GaryMac.

GaryMac do not try to explain or to figure it out with your human knowledge BECAUSE your nature and God's nature ARE NOT THE SAME unless you read the scripture with spiritual understanding.

John 8:19
hen they asked him, Where is your father? You do not know me or my Father," Jesus replied. If you knew me, you would know my Father also..... (Speaking in general)
God the Father sent Jesus Jesus didn’t send God.
God is a Spirit He resides in me His son and we are one. He has always made His abode in man.
Trying to figure this out on your own will cause you not to be one with Him He in you and you in Him as one because your reasoning will attack that what you are not familiar with. The only way you will know Him is to set aside yourself and put on His Spirit, His way, His mind, His everything. But it seems you are not willing to give up your way for Him. You make Him what you want Him to be by your laws for tradition taught you by man instead of being like Him yourself and letting Him have His way in you.

And if you know me you would know my Father as well I and my Father are one, Jesus taught the same thing, said the same things as I, made the same claim for himself. Taught it, pounded it, died for it but people still don’t get his message for you to be one with Him and as He is, one with the Father, Christ in you.
 
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I agree with the title. However, I don't agree with what's been said. If we had to be the same exact thing as Jesus was, we'd all be doomed. Simple as that.
Actually if you were as He is you would have His same Spirit as He came to give to you.
 
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So all of a sudden we can become a Christ?? Uh. no. Agreed girl. We can become the very best God has for us THROUGH HIM, in ourselves, we are nothing.
 
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So all of a sudden we can become a Christ?? Uh. no. Agreed girl. We can become the very best God has for us THROUGH HIM, in ourselves, we are nothing.
:) it makes me happy to see :)
 
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I see only one problem with that...WERE FLESH, not sayin we cant be the best we can be, to strive to be christ like doesnt mean BOOM were all the sudden perfect, less Im readin it TOTALLY wrong.