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Jason0047 said:
I don't need a scientific source to know the concept of reaping and sowing. If you put garbage in, then garbage will come out. Besides, we have the Internet. So it is not like this is a secret or anything.
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Seriously? It's not a secret, because it is not real.... it is a LIE!
If you can't defend that, it is because you believe the lie you want to believe.
If you can't even find it on the internet, how can we believe you?

You call it garbage, because you think it garbage. That is opinion, not Scripture.

Please post even a single song that you like. Why refuse to share?
 
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oh, and because something is, as you call it "loud" means it is evil? why then, in so many church services do they sing, even traditional, praise and worship hymn and songs loud? Do these cause you depression?
 
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I guess he gave up...
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He's the persistent type.
He'll just wait until he thinks I forgot about this, so I won't yet again ask him to post what songs he likes.
He seems to know how answering that question will destroy his argument. Instead he will deflect or avoid until it is forgotten.
 
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LT said:
He's the persistent type.
He'll just wait until he thinks I forgot about this, so I won't yet again ask him to post what songs he likes.
He seems to know how answering that question will destroy his argument. Instead he will deflect or avoid until it is forgotten.
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His argument already self-destructed a long time ago. Might as well let it go at this point. And all agree to disagree.

*sigh*
 
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MultilingualMessenger said:
His argument already self-destructed a long time ago. Might as well let it go at this point. And all agree to disagree.

*sigh*
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It is hard for me to turn away from a debate. I am part of a "stiff-necked people".
But there is wisdom in your words. I will try to leave it be.
 
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LT said:
It is hard for me to turn away from a debate. I am part of a "stiff-necked people".
But there is wisdom in your words. I will try to leave it be.
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Praise you Brother. This is fruit.
 
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Then there is the mosh pit folks like to partake in at Christian Heavy Metal concerts sometimes. Again, how is this violence different from the secular world? People have gotten hurt at these Christian concerts. Why is this important? Did they get hurt because they were preaching the gospel? No. They got hurt because they were being aggressive and carefree of how they behave in regards to their life (Trying to yet again be an immitator of the world and not an immitator of Jesus Christ). But Jesus said you will know false prophets by their fruit.
 
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LT said:
Seriously? It's not a secret, because it is not real.... it is a LIE!
If you can't defend that, it is because you believe the lie you want to believe.
If you can't even find it on the internet, how can we believe you?

You call it garbage, because you think it garbage. That is opinion, not Scripture.

Please post even a single song that you like. Why refuse to share?
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The internet is at your fingertips. Instead of just claiming it is a lie, one can just do the search and find out if there are any sources that would back that up or not. Anyways, here you go:

library.wcsu.edu/dspace/bitstream/0/35/1/tropeano.pdf

www.users.miamioh.edu/shermalw/edp101as07/Group2b_Gi-project09.doc
 
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Not debating, but for those of you who don't click on links: the first one deals with violent music videos (off topic), and the second deals with secular lyrics when addressing metal (also off topic).
 
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LT said:
Not debating, but for those of you who don't click on links: the first one deals with violent music videos (off topic), and the second deals with secular lyrics when addressing metal (also off topic).
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Thanks. I fall into that demographic most of the time. :p
 
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Thanks. I fall into that demographic most of the time. :p
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Not off topic because you cannot tell the difference between these two types of musics. They look and sound exactly the same. Only the lyrics are different. But like I said, you really can't hear the lyrics half the time because they are screaming these types of songs. Plus, just stop and think for a moment. If you punch someone, what do you think they are going to do? If you are loving towards someone, how do you think they are going to respond? This is the problem with Christian Metal because the music is aggressive. So if you listen to aggressive music all the time, then it is only logical that it's aggressive beat will also rub off on you. For one reaps what they sow.
 
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Jason0047 said:
Then there is the mosh pit folks like to partake in at Christian Heavy Metal concerts sometimes. Again, how is this violence different from the secular world? People have gotten hurt at these Christian concerts. Why is this important? Did they get hurt because they were preaching the gospel? No. They got hurt because they were being aggressive and carefree of how they behave in regards to their life (Trying to yet again be an immitator of the world and not an immitator of Jesus Christ). But Jesus said you will know false prophets by their fruit.
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So basically, you want to live in a box and feel sorry all the time and have no fun. Is that what our Lord Jesus said? Please show me where He said don't have fun? Is it scriptural to look down on others who are sharing the Gospel?
Did Jesus come that our lives should become dismal? Please show scripture for that. Did Jesus say Ice Cream socials are the only way to have fun? Must I remind you of the Wedding at Canaa? Was that an Ice Cream social full of sad people? (I use Ice cream social because I've seen them advertised) If we are making a joyful noise to the Lord as commanded in scripture, who are you to criticise the Lord? We are inspired and fit for the Lord's work with this music. LYRICS AND THE MESSAGE is what's important. Not some judgemental fool
 
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mwc68 said:
So basically, you want to live in a box and feel sorry all the time and have no fun. Is that what our Lord Jesus said? Please show me where He said don't have fun? Is it scriptural to look down on others who are sharing the Gospel?
Did Jesus come that our lives should become dismal? Please show scripture for that. Did Jesus say Ice Cream socials are the only way to have fun? Must I remind you of the Wedding at Canaa? Was that an Ice Cream social full of sad people? (I use Ice cream social because I've seen them advertised) If we are making a joyful noise to the Lord as commanded in scripture, who are you to criticise the Lord? We are inspired and fit for the Lord's work with this music. LYRICS AND THE MESSAGE is what's important. Not some judgemental fool
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My idea of fun is studying the Bible and talking about it with other like minded believers.
 
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Jason0047 said:
My idea of fun is studying the Bible and talking about it with other like minded believers.
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Understood, you put yourself up to judge others as fun. We would love to discuss this avenue of Gods work with you, but you need to study more
 
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mwc68 said:
Understood, you put yourself up to judge others as fun. We would love to discuss this avenue of Gods work with you, but you need to study more
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Believers can correct other believers by using the Word of God (2 Timothy 3:16).
 
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Jason0047 said:
Believers can correct other believers by using the Word of God (2 Timothy 3:16).
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Yes, and believers know when they are being BS'ed "if you know what I mean" Get out of the house dude! The souls that need saving are out there
 
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Yes, and believers know when they are being BS'ed "if you know what I mean" Get out of the house dude! The souls that need saving are out there
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One has not repented of their sins if they are still holding on to the things of this world that are evil. Christian Metal is evil because it is aggressive. For example: If a child came into your home because they were in a car accident and his parents just died, and they were requesting some music from you in order to feel relaxed or calm, would you play them some aggressive Christian Metal? No, of course not. Such music would make them feel uneasy and worse. And why is that? Why would such music make them feel worse? It's because it is the type of music that is not of God.
 
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