Contradiction of WORDS

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elf3

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I think it's funny how people assume that because we are saved by faith alone they think we are saying "don't ever do good works". Just funny funny funny!
 
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I think it's funny how people assume that because we are saved by faith alone they think we are saying "don't ever do good works". Just funny funny funny!
Would it be just as funny if by repentance cause by faith caused by grace, salvation wolud not be granted without repentance?
 
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psychomom

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Would it be just as funny if by repentance cause by faith caused by grace, salvation wolud not be granted without repentance?
where does the Scripture say repentance comes from?
 
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Would it just as funny to say there's nothing to boast about...knowing you're a repentant sinner?
 
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psychomom

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Would it just as funny to say there's nothing to boast about...knowing you're a repentant sinner?
i'm sorry...not sure what you mean.

can you answer my question? :)
 
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elf3

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Would it be just as funny if by repentance cause by faith caused by grace, salvation wolud not be granted without repentance?
Who causes us to repent? Do you cause yourself to repent or did Jesus cause you to repent? Can we repent without God first "coming after us"? Who initiates the relationship...us or God?
 
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Atwood;1716828[QUOTE said:
]NewB, It is taught in the Bible that there is a kind of faith which is believing that something is so, & that such faith does not save (demons have it). Faith leads to salvation very frequently in the Bible (your faith has saved you). Thus it is only sophistry that objects to "saving faith" as an expression.
the scripture also says faith without works is dead.....and surly your faith has no works...



Now concocting a difference between good works, obedient works, and meritorious works is playing with word irrationally. All good works are works of obedience & meritorious. And human works (regardless) are excluded from being a cause of salvation.
and what of these good works?? all works are not what you say
1 Corinthians 13:3
And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.



You seem to try so hard to keep yourself from being saved with your blindness.
Acts 16:32-34King James Version (KJV)Maybe I am blind can you tell me what is the word they spake that caused the jailer and his family to be baptised immediately?.....is it something you have not heard ? or something you ignore?
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32 [/SUP]And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house.

[SUP]33 [/SUP]And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway.
[SUP]34 [/SUP]And when he had brought them into his house, he set meat before them, and rejoiced, believing in God with all his house.



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so I am blind tell me what you see?
 
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Who causes us to repent? Do you cause yourself to repent or did Jesus cause you to repent? Can we repent without God first "coming after us"? Who initiates the relationship...us or God?
I'll answer you brother. Will you honestly listen?
 
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I think it's funny how people assume that because we are saved by faith alone they think we are saying "don't ever do good works". Just funny funny funny!
we are saved by grace through faith.....we are not saved by faith alone...that quote is not found in scripture....correct me i I am wrong....
 
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elf3

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I'll answer you brother. Will you honestly listen?
I sure will read what you say. I unlike others (not meaning you I know you read the posts..proof from the defense thread lol) read all the posts.
 
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JesusIsAll

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You need to stop talking in a way that confuses the heck outta me lol jk jk
I know'd it, Brudda'! Confoozes mahself, mercy me!
 
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elf3

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we are saved by grace through faith.....we are not saved by faith alone...that quote is not found in scripture....correct me i I am wrong....
Yes it's by grace thru faith so we are justified by our faith not our works. But it is only by God's grace that we can even have faith which is given us by God.

As example; Abraham was justified by his faith not his works.
 
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elf3

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Sorry I just noticed I keep saying saved when I mean justified. No wonder I am confusing people. Please forgive me everyone.

Thank you NB for helping me notice this.