Daily Repentance Vs. One-time Repentance?

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That picture--too funny.. LOL :)


Grace777x70 said:
I have thought about this and in reality - there is no such thing as future sinning. All sinning is done in the present. All sinning done next year will be done in the present tense when you are doing it.

The forgiveness of sins is because of Christ's work on the cross. Forgiveness of sins because of Christ's finished work on the cross and resurrection is the gospel message. Acts 10 and Acts 31 show this perfectly where we have word-for-word accounts of the true gospel being preached by Peter and Paul.

So, if you throw out your orange tabby tomorrow for a brown dog - you will be doing that in the present tense. ( Christ's blood has cleansed you for all present sin because you are in Him but there are earthly consequences from the cat though )
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samuel23 said:
Hi Ben, You usually seem like a reasonable man but enough is enough, the post is about forgiveness of sins and this was a big story about forgiveness of sins. You can look this story up on the net yourself...I think the man was Pentecostal.
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No problem, thanks for clarifying. We've got to be careful using extra-biblical experiences to define the truth of scripture on important topics.
 
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You repent once, you confess continually as the Lord shows you your sins. Confess is not a verbal declaration of sin(s) it's an agreement of sin(s) that are revealed to us as the Lord sees fit.

I John 1:9 "But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin.8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.10 If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."

Verse 7 our repentance cleanses us from all sin past, present and future. Verse 8 we still miss the mark all the time, so we know we have sin. Verse 9 as we walk with the Lord He reveals sin(s) to us, we agree that they are sin and if we are still doing them, we work with God to do away with them, it's our sanctification process. Verse 10 when those sins are revealed if we say they are not sins, we make God a liar.

That's not the exact brake down, I'm sure someone has some better insight then I do.
 
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Willie-T said:
Did being cut off in traffic make you decide to change your mind about following Jesus?

Did Jesus withdraw forgiveness from you for that outburst?

If you had hit another car and been killed because of being cut off, would you have gone to Hell due to that anger or irritation on your mind at the moment you died?
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Only God knows, i don't live by ifs.

 
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no have gone to far with Jesus and been shown to much to ever deny Him. i'm ready for the gallows, to be absent from the body is to be with Christ Jesus in paradise.
 
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Willie-T said:
Did being cut off in traffic make you decide to change your mind about following Jesus?

Did Jesus withdraw forgiveness from you for that outburst?

If you had hit another car and been killed because of being cut off, would you have gone to Hell due to that anger or irritation on your mind at the moment you died?
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MadebyHim said:
Only God knows, i don't live by ifs.

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So, your answer to each of those questions would be, "I don't know." ? A rather shaky foundation if you are following some belief that leaves you totally in the dark about things like that.

The Lord I know has assured me that the answers are "No" to each of those queries.
 
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I think it's called covering all bases. Just in case
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I agree, It would be an acknowledgement that you have alot to learn, About God, his ways, and his thoughts. and that you know you will have to change your view of many things.. But you trusts God will help you do it.
 
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repent means to go from the world view of thinking, or what ever view we have, which is based on self gratification, That everything revolves around self. That your a prety good person that th eonly thing that matters in this world is things that serve you because you are the center of the universe. .That God, is either an evil dictator.. demanding you to stop having "Fun" or else.. or is some other kind of God made up my man.. usually to serve themselves.. (ie, if it serves your interest, you will do what God asks, if not,, Than no, you will not do it and how dare anyone tell you that is wrong)

To go to the view, that you are an evil person, You have sinned against your creator. He has the right to judge you, the penalty of that sin is death, Thus you are dead in trespasses and sins. That you are not the center of the universe, God is, That God loves you so much, he sent his son to die for you all you have to do is humble yourself confess your sinfulness, and in faith and assurance, receive his gift of eternal life. And that you will enter a journey of God changing your thoughts from a self focused person, to a other focused Christ like individual. who learns to realise this life is so short. and eternity is so long, that since your eternity is already been settled. you can do all things because even the worse pain will be a momentary light affliction based on eternity (and that even you may not see or believe this last part now You are willing to have God prove to you it is true..

You see vast difference between the two.

not only in the words, but the people themselves. If a person who claims to have just been saved does not appear any different, Something is wrong..
 
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blue_ladybug said:
I know that ALL sin, including past and present, AND FUTURE has been forgiven, but for the life of me, I'm confused as to how FUTURE sin, which has NOT been committed yet, can be forgiven. :confused:

Mysterious are the ways of God.. lol :)
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Is there a past, present and future for the one who created time and space? God sees your great-great-great grandmother's first step when she was a baby when he sees your first step when he sees you now when he sees you in the future, when he sees The Jetson's way of living as present tense. (If someone ever gets those flying cars, of course. lol)

He put that one time event in our history, but in David's future. Jesus died on that cross for all the sins of his people -- Abraham, Paul, and you. And yet, it was/is/will always be the perfect sacrifice for all of it.
 
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Well all i know is I see it. I see people believing lukewarm is okay. That guy i knew in highschool publicly came out saying he was tired of praying away the gay and now will live with his new boyfriend. This guy is preaching at some church near Atlanta.

Sadly out of 100 something comments on his post 98 comments was congratulated him and happy for him. But when 2 of us question his whole ordeal with preaching truth but living in deliberate sin. We get severly attacked by comments from people claiming to be christian and of course non believers.

I see it at my job since i live in the bible belt, its easier to find people who go to church and believe God. But many times i cant hang around these same people by the swearing, god d##g this and that, talking about females so vulgarly.

I rarely see people who are as motivated as some on here. Most church's has a small percentage of participation compared to the people sitting in the seats.
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I rarely see people who aren't all that motivated. Why hang around unmotivated people? I already have lazy down pat. I need to stay edified. Might help you to edify and be edified by not constantly searching out the unmotivated and hanging around the motivated. Then you don't spend so much time scolding the people around you.

I prefer churches with a core of people willing to role up their sleeves. I want to join in that group. And it seems the other group likes that group too, because eventually they join it.
 
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For today, repentance is a Holy Spirit prompted Heart Condition and is ongoing.....The Parable of the Sower illustrates repentance perfectly.....

We do not hear about repentance as a heart condition or ongoing entire sanctification because the USA church is all about grace and benefits minded theologies.....This continual heart condition is not to obtain or maintain salvation in any way, shape or form...Repentance will bear fruit though...

I like to think of repentance as a point of no return with Jesus.....The world behind me, the cross before me, no turning back, no turning back.....

Repentance is partaking of the divine nature and as you walk out repentance you will enter into covenant relationship with Father....


Someone will reply that I am claiming works based salvation in 4...3...2...1
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And, once again, you seem content to stick with a group that thinks just like you do, therefore self-fulfilling prophecy. Heads up, the Church is doing fine. You're the one sitting back judging, instead of participating, therefore that's on you, not the Church.

And, no. I don't think you're proclaiming anything beyond, "Thank you, Lord, that I am not that mere tax collector."
 
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Every time I let go of the lie and cling to the truth that has exposed it, I have repented. And that will lead to a change in my actions. As a man thinks, so is he.
 
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Issachar92 said:
Where did you get this definition? I've never even heard this
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Titus 2.11-15

[SUP]11 [/SUP]For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men, [SUP]12 [/SUP]instructing us to deny ungodliness and worldly desires and to live sensibly, righteously and godly in the present age, [SUP]13 [/SUP]looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus, [SUP]14 [/SUP]who gave Himself for us to redeem us from every lawless deed, and to purify for Himself a people for His own possession, zealous for good deeds.[SUP]15 [/SUP]These things speak and exhort and reprove with all authority. Let no one disregard you.

Grace is just not a saving grace...there is also enabling/empowering/restraining grace as the above passage refers to.

All we hear about today is saving grace and it drowns out the truth of enabling/empowering/restraining grace....One cannot understand this truth unless they are understand the realities of the new creation they are in Christ Jesus....
 
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And, once again, you seem content to stick with a group that thinks just like you do, therefore self-fulfilling prophecy. Heads up, the Church is doing fine. You're the one sitting back judging, instead of participating, therefore that's on you, not the Church.

And, no. I don't think you're proclaiming anything beyond, "Thank you, Lord, that I am not that mere tax collector."
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If you think the church as a whole is doing fine you are not paying attention.....
 
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The church is fine,,

It is the false church that claims to be the church which is in trouble.. No matter how strong it thinks it is, God will destroy it with its father..
 
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truthhurts said:
Titus 2.11-15

[SUP]11 [/SUP]For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men, [SUP]12 [/SUP]instructing us to deny ungodliness and worldly desires and to live sensibly, righteously and godly in the present age, [SUP]13 [/SUP]looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus, [SUP]14 [/SUP]who gave Himself for us to redeem us from every lawless deed, and to purify for Himself a people for His own possession, zealous for good deeds.[SUP]15 [/SUP]These things speak and exhort and reprove with all authority. Let no one disregard you.

Grace is just not a saving grace...there is also enabling/empowering/restraining grace as the above passage refers to.

All we hear about today is saving grace and it drowns out the truth of enabling/empowering/restraining grace....One cannot understand this truth unless they are understand the realities of the new creation they are in Christ Jesus....
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I agree 100%. True grace from hearing the proper word of Christ Himself will never leave us in the same condition we were found in.

There are 2 aspects to grace. The very first thing that Jesus does with the woman caught in adultery is that He gets rid of her accusers - the religious Pharisees that wanted to condemn her because the "bible" said so in the Old Covenant...she was to be stoned. ( the law condemns us )

Jesus was the only one qualified to condemn her but He didn't.

1) acceptance grace - which has nothing to do with our behavior - as seen with the woman caught in adultery. Our Lord beautifully says " I do not condemn you".

It is in knowing you are not condemned that releases the other aspect of grace.

2) now, go and sin no more - this is empowering grace.

Empowering grace enables you to be who the Father sees you are in Christ now because you are a new creation in Him.


The religious mindset says to the woman caught in adultery - 'Do not sin and we will not condemn you."

The grace of God and the blood of Jesus speaks of better things in this New Covenant of grace!

"Knowing" that we are not condemned in Christ "releases" the life of the empowering grace to transform us. It's all about Christ! It's His fruit being manifested in us!

Acceptance grace which is not based on our behavior needs to be cemented in our hearts before empowering grace is able to be manifested.


What believers in a self-effort/self-performance D.I.Y. holiness/righteousness based mindset and the self-appointed "fruit inspectors" have a very hard time with is the "acceptance grace" part and this this just drives them nuts and they can mis-undertstand or mis-represent what is really being said.

I can understand why. It is scandalous and it "conflicts" with some of our religious man-made traditions and church teachings that may not be accurate in this area.

 
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Grace777x70 said:
I agree 100%. True grace from hearing the proper word of Christ Himself will never leave us in the same condition we were found in.

There are 2 aspects to grace. The very first thing that Jesus does with the woman caught in adultery is that He gets rid of her accusers - the religious Pharisees that wanted to condemn her because the "bible" said so in the Old Covenant...she was to be stoned. ( the law condemns us )

Jesus was the only one qualified to condemn her but He didn't.

1) acceptance grace - which has nothing to do with our behavior - as seen with the woman caught in adultery. Our Lord beautifully says " I do not condemn you".

It is in knowing you are not condemned that releases the other aspect of grace.

2) now, go and sin no more - this is empowering grace.

Empowering grace enables you to be who the Father sees you are in Christ now because you are a new creation in Him.


The religious mindset says to the woman caught in adultery - 'Do not sin and we will not condemn you."

The grace of God and the blood of Jesus speaks of better things in this New Covenant of grace!

"Knowing" that we are not condemned in Christ "releases" the life of the empowering grace to transform us. It's all about Christ! It's His fruit being manifested in us!

Acceptance grace which is not based on our behavior needs to be cemented in our hearts before empowering grace is able to be manifested.


What believers in a self-effort/self-performance D.I.Y. holiness/righteousness based mindset and the self-appointed "fruit inspectors" have a very hard time with is the "acceptance grace" part and this this just drives them nuts and they can mis-undertstand or mis-represent what is really being said.

I can understand why. It is scandalous and it "conflicts" with some of our religious man-made traditions and church teachings that may not be accurate in this area.

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must spread it around again....
 
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