Deut 7:12-11:25 Moses speaks on OBEDIENCE to the 2nd generation
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And this is why your religion of law-keeping is anti-Christ. The Law was to reveal our need for a Savior. Jesus did not die on the cross so that we could go back to the Law. You deny Christ by your continual persistence to get people to desert Christ for your law-keeping.
The gentiles have a form of the law in their hearts - put there from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
Law-keepers are still eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Christ is the tree of Life - He is our Life - not the Law. The Law is but a mere shadow of the real thing - which is Christ Himself.
Real Christian promote Christ and what He has done - not to law-keeping. This verse describe those that promote the law-keeping for life.
Juadizers coming in and perverting the gospel of the grace of Christ. Judaizers are those that try to get people to live by the law of Moses. Modern day Judaizers try to do the same thing. It's anti-Christ in it's beliefs although it tries to maintain the "appearance" of good.
Remember Paul said in the last days people would be anti-Christ - NOT anti-God. There is a vast difference and law-keepers for life and salvation is an anti-Christ belief religion.
Galatians 1:6-7 (NASB)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel;
[SUP]7 [/SUP] which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ.
Receiving any of the Law in replacement for Christ is severing you from Christ's grace.
Galatians 5:2-4 (NASB)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] Behold I, Paul, say to you that if you receive circumcision, Christ will be of no benefit to you.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] And I testify again to every man who receives circumcision, that he is under obligation to keep the whole Law.
[SUP]4 [/SUP] You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace. Law-keepers have a very low opinion of the Law as they water it down to make it seem "do-able" but in Paul says they are obligated to keep all of the Law. No law-keepers do that and thus they violate the very thing that they say for others to do.
Come to Christ disciplemike and be free in Him. In Christ is life - not in your law-keeping.
The gentiles have a form of the law in their hearts - put there from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
Law-keepers are still eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Christ is the tree of Life - He is our Life - not the Law. The Law is but a mere shadow of the real thing - which is Christ Himself.
Real Christian promote Christ and what He has done - not to law-keeping. This verse describe those that promote the law-keeping for life.
Juadizers coming in and perverting the gospel of the grace of Christ. Judaizers are those that try to get people to live by the law of Moses. Modern day Judaizers try to do the same thing. It's anti-Christ in it's beliefs although it tries to maintain the "appearance" of good.
Remember Paul said in the last days people would be anti-Christ - NOT anti-God. There is a vast difference and law-keepers for life and salvation is an anti-Christ belief religion.
Galatians 1:6-7 (NASB)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel;
[SUP]7 [/SUP] which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ.
Receiving any of the Law in replacement for Christ is severing you from Christ's grace.
Galatians 5:2-4 (NASB)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] Behold I, Paul, say to you that if you receive circumcision, Christ will be of no benefit to you.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] And I testify again to every man who receives circumcision, that he is under obligation to keep the whole Law.
[SUP]4 [/SUP] You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace. Law-keepers have a very low opinion of the Law as they water it down to make it seem "do-able" but in Paul says they are obligated to keep all of the Law. No law-keepers do that and thus they violate the very thing that they say for others to do.
Come to Christ disciplemike and be free in Him. In Christ is life - not in your law-keeping.
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Who is sinning? Lawlessness as seen in Matt. 7:15-23 are those that depend on their own works for salvation. No one is going to fall for your anti-Christ religion here. That is the lawlessness in action - law-keepers denying the Lord Jesus Christ for another gospel.
Law-keepers are the ones who are being lawless by their continual attempts at law-keeping which they break constantly in their attempt at their D.I.Y self-righteousness/holiness which is why this religion you are espousing is anti-Christ.
Lawlessness is not becoming obedient to the faith. Lawlessness is not believing in the Father's New Covenant commands which are clearly here in 1 John 3:23
1 John 3:23 (NASB)
[SUP]23 [/SUP] This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us.
There has been enough said in this thread to reveal this anti-Christ belief system religion that you are trying to cause people to desert Christ for. ( Gal.1:6 ) The young saints have been warned about this religion and the Holy Spirit will watch over them to protect them from this religion which is anti-Christ.
Come to Christ disciplemike - He is your only hope for true life and salvation.
Its really strange how people who try to teach their carnal understanding of the law always have to negate parts of it because they can't follow those parts. I don't see anywhere in the bible where it says this is ok. Can you show me???
I only see parts in the bible where it says you have to follow the whole law. Every jot and tittle.
Can you show me where it says certain parts of the law are negated and we no longer have to follow them?
I only see parts in the bible where it says you have to follow the whole law. Every jot and tittle.
Can you show me where it says certain parts of the law are negated and we no longer have to follow them?
amazing how people claim to love God, but then they don't want His instructions.
Lawlessness.
Didn't work for native Israelites. Won't work now.
This is where the religion of the "law-keepers" is exposed for what it really is. Lawlessness - because they water down the real Law to make it seem to be "do-able" but in fact they are being "lawless" by not keeping the whole Law.
Some people just want to worship the shadow ( the Law ) instead of the real thing which the shadow was to lead us to - Christ Himself.
This is why this religion of law-keeping is anti-Christ in it's beliefs.
Christ is the answer to lawlessness and people trying to keep the Law.
New Creatures walk by faith not by sight.
The covenants of God have nothing to do with literal locations on earth that God uses as a shadow to point to the heavenly Jerusalem, Zion, the bride of Christ .She is also called Christian, formally called Israel or inward Jew, born again after the incorruptible seed of His word.
This present corrupted world will go up in smoke on the last day as the new heavens and earth come into view. The former things will not be remembered or ever come to mind.
1Pe 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
His covenant have to do with inwardly giving men a new eternal spirit and a new incorruptible body that will be neither male nor female Jew or gentile that will never die.
The covenants of God belong to God, they come from the word of God and not after the flesh of any man or any nation.
God is not served by human hands he is no respecter of persons
2Corinthians 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
Because of the promised reformation and the new name he has named his people (Christian, The city of righteousness, the faithful city.) we no longer know any man after the flesh.
The new name God and not man has called the sons of God as those led by the Spirit of Christ is Christian . It means without adding any other meaning residents of the city of Christ, the new Jerusalem or Zion.Named after its founder, Christ, the holy anointing Spirit of God.
You for some reason spell the word Christian ( xian) as way it seems you have developed to take away the meaning of the word for some reason or other. Removing Christ from the word removes the founder of that heavenly city. It would seem you might be trying to persecute Christians as did the Jew during the first century refomation..
Taking away the meaning of a word (Christian) violates the law of God according to Deuteronomy. Words have intended meanings.
Christ has come meaning the reformation has come.The veil is rent. The ceremonial laws as shadows have met their fulfillment.
The order is restored to the period of Judges when there was no outward representation. This was before the Jewish elders assembled themselves together without the prompt of God and demanded a King like the pagan nations that surrounded them .It is what he did reform when he came to the new order found in 1 Corinthians 11..
amazing how people claim to love God, but then they don't want His instructions.
Lawlessness.
Didn't work for native Israelites. Won't work now.
This is where the religion of the "law-keepers" is exposed for what it really is. Lawlessness - because they water down the real Law to make it seem to be "do-able" but in fact they are being "lawless" by not keeping the whole Law.
Some people just want to worship the shadow ( the Law ) instead of the real thing which the shadow was to lead us to - Christ Himself.
This is why this religion of law-keeping is anti-Christ in it's beliefs.
Christ is the answer to lawlessness and people trying to keep the Law.
If the bible doesn't say anywhere that any of the law is negated then their whole religion and "theology" is a mere philosophy of men.
Let's see what the Lord Jesus says;
Matthew 5:18-19
[FONT="]18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.[/FONT]
[FONT="]19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
What is it that these who follow after their own philosophy and flesh like to say? Heaven and earth is still here so not one jot or tittle has passed from the law.
What do we say to these lawless that try to make it seem that they are the only 'true' lawkeepers? Do we just say they are blind guides? Vain janglers, clanging gongs that don't even understand what they say?[/FONT]
Who are Israelites; to whom [pertaineth] the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service [of God], and the promises;
Romans 9:4 (KJV, MBM)
That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
Ephesians 2:12-13 (KJV, MBM)
Romans 9:4 (KJV, MBM)
That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
Ephesians 2:12-13 (KJV, MBM)
Those who think they are law keepers are the ones who are lawless.
Just look at the Pharisees.
Look at Judaism.
You have fallen into the same trap.
Romans 9:31-33
[FONT="]31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.[/FONT]
[FONT="]32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;[/FONT]
[FONT="]33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.[/FONT]
Just look at the Pharisees.
Look at Judaism.
You have fallen into the same trap.
Romans 9:31-33
[FONT="]31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.[/FONT]
[FONT="]32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;[/FONT]
[FONT="]33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.[/FONT]
No law no covenant.
Whatever it is it has nothing to do with a flesh of a Jew or any man.It is clear to what your goal is.
Its by His perfect law that that we can keep (guard closely) by faith His perfect law and not as if it was by works on our behalf.
It and not the outward flesh of a Jew gives us simply one His understanding by quickening our souls.It shows us that His mercy triumphs of judgement according to Christ's work of faith as a labor of His love all for his born again children that he from his mouth called Christians
The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.
The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.
More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward.Psa 19:7
Whatever it is it has nothing to do with a flesh of a Jew or any man.It is clear to what your goal is.
Its by His perfect law that that we can keep (guard closely) by faith His perfect law and not as if it was by works on our behalf.
It and not the outward flesh of a Jew gives us simply one His understanding by quickening our souls.It shows us that His mercy triumphs of judgement according to Christ's work of faith as a labor of His love all for his born again children that he from his mouth called Christians
The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.
The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.
More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward.Psa 19:7