Deut 7:12-11:25 Moses speaks on OBEDIENCE to the 2nd generation

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FreeNChrist

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disciplemike said:
wrong.

And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of *lawlessness.’Matthew 7:23 (ESV2011, MBM)
*lawlessness = G458, anomia (an-om-ee'-ah) n. 1. illegality, i.e. violation of law
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Right, it's speaking about you.
 
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FreeNChrist

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disciplemike said:
again with your filthy lies.
who said I am relying on my law-keeping?
stop lying and using deception to try and make yourself look "right".
get off the pride.
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Now you want to play games?? As if you haven’t started how many threads advocating for the continued need for Christians the be under the Law as you are??
 
disciplemike

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FreeNChrist said:
Now you want to play games?? As if you haven’t started how many threads advocating for the continued need for Christians the be under the Law as you are??
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no games brother.
show me one post where I said someone needs to keep the law to be saved.
just one.
or stop lying.
 
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FreeNChrist

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disciplemike said:
also,
Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness.

1 John 3:4 (ESV2011, MBM)
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So you had better stop your practice of sinning.
 
KohenMatt

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FreeNChrist said:
The "case in point" is the substitution of yourself and your living by law-keeping for living by faith in Jesus Christ. And worse, coming onto a Christian forum and encouraging others to follow you down into that pit along with you.
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Which no one here is doing.
 
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FreeNChrist

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disciplemike said:
no games brother.
show me one post where I said someone needs to keep the law to be saved.
just one.
or stop lying.
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Who said anything about being saved? We're talking about how those who are saved are to live. And my Bible says that we are to live by faith in Jesus Christ.
 
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FreeNChrist said:
Who said anything about being saved? We're talking about how those who are saved are to live. And my Bible says that we are to live by faith in Jesus Christ.
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ok, if you are saved, should you obey God's instructions or not?
 
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FreeNChrist said:
If you are saved you should live by faith in Jesus Christ. That IS God's instruction.
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brother, every politician in town says they live by faith in Christ.
it is easy to say.
I work with individuals who have met with legal misfortune. Most of them will tell you they live by faith in Jesus Christ. Perhaps a lot of them are telling the truth.
But there should be evidence, right?
 
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Does having faith in Christ ever call us to actually do something practical for someone? Should we ever ask God what we should do in certain situations? Is reading any part of the Bible in order to know how to live not living by faith?
 
Grace777x70

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disciplemike said:
wrong.

And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of *lawlessness.’Matthew 7:23 (ESV2011, MBM)
*lawlessness = G458, anomia (an-om-ee'-ah) n. 1. illegality, i.e. violation of law
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And you are breaking the "law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus".."the law of Christ" by not believing in Christ's finished work on the cross and resurrection. This is "lawlessness" in action.

You are in disobedience to be obedient to the faith. The faith is Christ Himself and what He has already accomplished for us.

This is why your "law-keeping" religion for life and living is anti-Christ in it's belief and this is "lawlessness".

Jesus said that "He knows His sheep." He doesn't "know" those who act independently of His finished work like in Matt.7:23 which is why He said "I never knew you"....lawlessness is "doing good works" apart from Christ Himself and expecting to get righteousness or to be recognized by the Lord Jesus.
 
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FreeNChrist

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disciplemike said:
brother, every politician in town says they live by faith in Christ.
it is easy to say.
I work with individuals who have met with legal misfortune. Most of them will tell you they live by faith in Jesus Christ. Perhaps a lot of them are telling the truth.
But there should be evidence, right?
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So? The Bible says to do it, not just say you are doing it.

The solution is grace, not Law.
 
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FreeNChrist

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KohenMatt said:
Does having faith in Christ ever call us to actually do something practical for someone? Should we ever ask God what we should do in certain situations? Is reading any part of the Bible in order to know how to live not living by faith?
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If you are living by faith in Christ you will find yourself doing for others without even thinking about "doing". Gods love is all about others.
 
KohenMatt

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FreeNChrist said:
If you are living by faith in Christ you will find yourself doing for others without even thinking about "doing". Gods love is all about others.
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Right. So how does reading the Bible and doing the things it says not fit in with that?
 
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FreeNChrist said:
So? The Bible says to do it, not just say you are doing it.

The solution is grace, not Law.
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right. so you have no problem with murders, transgenders, etc?
they can claim they have faith in Christ, but does that make it true?
 
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FreeNChrist

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disciplemike said:
right. so you have no problem with murders, transgenders, etc?
they can claim they have faith in Christ, but does that make it true?
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Right, because if one lives by faith in Christ they will end up murderers and transgendered, eh? Speaks loudly to your opinion of Christ. And you can stop trying to change "living" by faith in Christ to "claiming" and "saying". It's not gonna fly here.
 
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