God does not Prophesy. He gives the Words to His prophets and they prophesy. God knows what mankind will do because He created mankind. He knows what each segment of mankind will do in the future. He is perfect, and forgive my speaking in low terms, His knowledge of His creatures is so perfect He knows, and informs the prophets what to write down. They are not predictions, they are our Maker's knowledge. We have people whom we trust to inform us how the economy will conduct itself and most folks follow the advice gladly, yet even some who claim to be children of the Most High do not understand that He sees everything that ever was, is and will be like a mural. Of course it is far more mysterious than this simple illustration, no pun intended; His ways are not the ways of man. Think on this, and give Yahweh the Glory always, especially for knowing His own creation. Good grief even a watch-maker knows how his products will work, and Yahweh is much more than a mere watch-maker, glory, glory, glory to our blessed Maker forever and ever, amen.
did Christ retrun in AD 70? Matthew 24
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Your kidding right? Where did God prophesy Jerusalem would be destroyed?? Does anyone who believes as this guiy want to answer him? maybe you all should talk to him and tell him he is not helping yuou??
dan 9.. and the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and sanctuary"
so tell me ed, is this not God prophesying the destruction of jerusalem in 70 Ad? are you saying Jesus did not know of this prophesy?
depends on what you mean by the church, There will still be saved gentiles at this time. so they would be right there wsith the saved children of Isreal!
dan 9.. and the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and sanctuary"
so tell me ed, is this not God prophesying the destruction of jerusalem in 70 Ad? are you saying Jesus did not know of this prophesy?
depends on what you mean by the church, There will still be saved gentiles at this time. so they would be right there wsith the saved children of Isreal!
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Oh my goodness...I'm participating in the act of "I'm right-ism" that I sometimes laugh at. :O
Ok I've stated my case more than once. I need to back out. I'm right-ism is a nasty lil infection that's hard to cure.
Ok I've stated my case more than once. I need to back out. I'm right-ism is a nasty lil infection that's hard to cure.
lol don't know if anyone but me will find the idea funny.
but so as not to offend someone "it" refers to the "right-ism"
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Clearly you didnt consider what was posted. You just saw a bunch of stuff which might make me appear smart, a bunch of wikepedia stuff which showed the time of the jews in jerusalem had come to an end.
Oh. ya....
which showed the time of the jews in jerusalem had come to an end.
the time of the jews in jerusalem had come to an end.
jerusalem had come to an end.
end.
When did the trampling of Jerusalem come to an end:
The Siege of Jerusalem in the year 70 CE was the decisive event of the First Jewish-Roman War. The Roman army, led by the future Emperor Titus, with Tiberius Julius Alexander as his second-in-command, besieged and conquered the city of Jerusalem.
Josephus:
it was so thoroughly laid even with the ground by those that dug it up to the foundation, that there was left nothing to make those that came thither believe it [Jerusalem] had ever been inhabited.
OK. Thats clear, right.
The gentile trampling that Jesus decreed came to an end in 70AD.
Thats was Judgment. WRATH.
That ended everything related to Temple worship, worshipping God in Jerusalem, the Old Covenant, Judaism, and importantly, exactly as DANIEL told us it would bring and end to gentile (kings) rule over BELIEVING ISRAEL (and believing gentiles) WHO KNEW CHRIST WAS THEIR KING (unbelieving jews who survived 70AD and unbelieving gentiles have nothing to do with this unless they accept Christ as King). Its not intended to say there will never be other kings or tyrants or governments. Just that Israel was to know from Daniel that the domination of the faithful, their feeling of being abandoned by God would END when Jesus came!
Just ask yourself - Who is YOUR King....Who is Peter and Pauls King....
This is a History lesson:
Daniel 2
The King’s Dream
31“You, O king, were looking and behold, there was a single great statue; that statue, which was large and of extraordinary splendor, was standing in front of you, and its appearance was awesome. 32“The head of that statue was made of fine gold, its breast and its arms of silver, its belly and its thighs of bronze, 33its legs of iron, its feet partly of iron and partly of clay. 34“You continued looking until a stone was cut out without hands, and it struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and crushed them. 35“Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver and the gold were crushed all at the same time and became like chaff from the summer threshing floors; and the wind carried them away so that not a trace of them was found. But the stone that struck the statue became a great mountain and filled the whole earth.
The Interpretation—Babylon the First Kingdom
36“This was the dream; now we will tell its interpretation before the king. 37“You, O king, are the king of kings, to whom the God of heaven has given the kingdom, the power, the strength and the glory; 38and wherever the sons of men dwell, or the beasts of the field, or the birds of the sky, He has given them into your hand and has caused you to rule over them all. You are the head of gold.
Medo-Persia and Greece
39“After you there will arise another kingdom inferior to you, then another third kingdom of bronze, which will rule over all the earth.
Rome
40“Then there will be a fourth kingdom as strong as iron; inasmuch as iron crushes and shatters all things, so, like iron that breaks in pieces, it will crush and break all these in pieces. 41“In that you saw the feet and toes, partly of potter’s clay and partly of iron, it will be a divided kingdom; but it will have in it the toughness of iron, inasmuch as you saw the iron mixed with common clay. 42“As the toes of the feet were partly of iron and partly of pottery, so some of the kingdom will be strong and part of it will be brittle. 43“And in that you saw the iron mixed with common clay, they will combine with one another in the seed of men; but they will not adhere to one another, even as iron does not combine with pottery.
The Divine Kingdom
44“In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which will never be destroyed, and that kingdom will not be left for another people; it will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, but it will itself endure forever. 45“Inasmuch as you saw that a stone was cut out of the mountain without hands and that it crushed the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver and the gold, the great God has made known to the king what will take place in the future; so the dream is true and its interpretation is trustworthy.”
So during Roman rule over the world* did God set up a Kingdom which will never be destroyed...Jesus came, right. All it says is He would put an end to THOSE kingdoms....the who had been ruling over Israel because they rejected YHVH as their KING!
Just because there are gentiles and jews (people basically) trampling all over Jerusalem today, what on earth does that have to do with the predicted and carried out PUNISHMENT of 70AD. Thats all The Lord intended and He performed it. He brought an end to His faithful being ruled over by gentile kings!
Now it is individuals (jew or gentile) not nations who are to be called and enter eternal life through the Gospel (whether in this world they live in a nation that governs by monarchy is not the POINT! THE KING, GODÈS KING has come. HIS Kingdom has been established.
How hard is that to figure out.
Do you think the trampling and punishment was supposed to go on for 2000 or 3000 years, or what. LOL.
Please take the time to read Daniel 2 - dont skip over it then insult me for not replying correctly.
In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which will never be destroyed, and that kingdom will not be left for another people; it will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, but it will itself endure forever.
OK.
Now did God or did He not, in Christ set up a kingdom which will never be destroyed, and that kingdom will not be left for another people. Will His Kingdom endure forever.
The Roman empire collapsed and died you know.
Decline of the Roman Empire
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Once again....Daniel mentioned 4 kingdoms. Not 5000 that might come after - thats not the Lords concern here.
*world
Romans 10:18
But I say, surely they have never heard, have they? Indeed they have; "THEIR VOICE HAS GONE OUT INTO ALL THE EARTH, AND THEIR WORDS TO THE ENDS OF THE WORLD."
γην noun - accusative singular feminine
ge ghay: soil; by extension a region, or the solid part or the whole of the terrene globe (including the occupants in each application) -- country, earth(-ly), ground, land, world.
οικουμενης noun - genitive singular feminine
oikoumene oy-kou-men'-ay: land, i.e. the (terrene part of the) globe; specially, the Roman empire -- earth, world.
Colossians 1:6
that has come to you. All over the world this gospel is bearing fruit and growing, just as it has been doing among you since the day you heard it and understood God's grace in all its truth.
Colossians 1:23
if indeed you continue in the faith firmly established and steadfast, and not moved away from the hope of the gospel that you have heard, which was proclaimed in all creation under heaven, and of which I, Paul, was made a minister.
So dont we see that the kingdom is established, the Gospel went out to the known world of Jesus day, and The Lord continues to add day by day those who are being saved...jew and greek.
Oh. ya....
which showed the time of the jews in jerusalem had come to an end.
the time of the jews in jerusalem had come to an end.
jerusalem had come to an end.
end.
When did the trampling of Jerusalem come to an end:
The Siege of Jerusalem in the year 70 CE was the decisive event of the First Jewish-Roman War. The Roman army, led by the future Emperor Titus, with Tiberius Julius Alexander as his second-in-command, besieged and conquered the city of Jerusalem.
Josephus:
it was so thoroughly laid even with the ground by those that dug it up to the foundation, that there was left nothing to make those that came thither believe it [Jerusalem] had ever been inhabited.
OK. Thats clear, right.
The gentile trampling that Jesus decreed came to an end in 70AD.
Thats was Judgment. WRATH.
That ended everything related to Temple worship, worshipping God in Jerusalem, the Old Covenant, Judaism, and importantly, exactly as DANIEL told us it would bring and end to gentile (kings) rule over BELIEVING ISRAEL (and believing gentiles) WHO KNEW CHRIST WAS THEIR KING (unbelieving jews who survived 70AD and unbelieving gentiles have nothing to do with this unless they accept Christ as King). Its not intended to say there will never be other kings or tyrants or governments. Just that Israel was to know from Daniel that the domination of the faithful, their feeling of being abandoned by God would END when Jesus came!
Just ask yourself - Who is YOUR King....Who is Peter and Pauls King....
This is a History lesson:
Daniel 2
The King’s Dream
31“You, O king, were looking and behold, there was a single great statue; that statue, which was large and of extraordinary splendor, was standing in front of you, and its appearance was awesome. 32“The head of that statue was made of fine gold, its breast and its arms of silver, its belly and its thighs of bronze, 33its legs of iron, its feet partly of iron and partly of clay. 34“You continued looking until a stone was cut out without hands, and it struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and crushed them. 35“Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver and the gold were crushed all at the same time and became like chaff from the summer threshing floors; and the wind carried them away so that not a trace of them was found. But the stone that struck the statue became a great mountain and filled the whole earth.
The Interpretation—Babylon the First Kingdom
36“This was the dream; now we will tell its interpretation before the king. 37“You, O king, are the king of kings, to whom the God of heaven has given the kingdom, the power, the strength and the glory; 38and wherever the sons of men dwell, or the beasts of the field, or the birds of the sky, He has given them into your hand and has caused you to rule over them all. You are the head of gold.
Medo-Persia and Greece
39“After you there will arise another kingdom inferior to you, then another third kingdom of bronze, which will rule over all the earth.
Rome
40“Then there will be a fourth kingdom as strong as iron; inasmuch as iron crushes and shatters all things, so, like iron that breaks in pieces, it will crush and break all these in pieces. 41“In that you saw the feet and toes, partly of potter’s clay and partly of iron, it will be a divided kingdom; but it will have in it the toughness of iron, inasmuch as you saw the iron mixed with common clay. 42“As the toes of the feet were partly of iron and partly of pottery, so some of the kingdom will be strong and part of it will be brittle. 43“And in that you saw the iron mixed with common clay, they will combine with one another in the seed of men; but they will not adhere to one another, even as iron does not combine with pottery.
The Divine Kingdom
44“In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which will never be destroyed, and that kingdom will not be left for another people; it will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, but it will itself endure forever. 45“Inasmuch as you saw that a stone was cut out of the mountain without hands and that it crushed the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver and the gold, the great God has made known to the king what will take place in the future; so the dream is true and its interpretation is trustworthy.”
So during Roman rule over the world* did God set up a Kingdom which will never be destroyed...Jesus came, right. All it says is He would put an end to THOSE kingdoms....the who had been ruling over Israel because they rejected YHVH as their KING!
Just because there are gentiles and jews (people basically) trampling all over Jerusalem today, what on earth does that have to do with the predicted and carried out PUNISHMENT of 70AD. Thats all The Lord intended and He performed it. He brought an end to His faithful being ruled over by gentile kings!
Now it is individuals (jew or gentile) not nations who are to be called and enter eternal life through the Gospel (whether in this world they live in a nation that governs by monarchy is not the POINT! THE KING, GODÈS KING has come. HIS Kingdom has been established.
How hard is that to figure out.
Do you think the trampling and punishment was supposed to go on for 2000 or 3000 years, or what. LOL.
Please take the time to read Daniel 2 - dont skip over it then insult me for not replying correctly.
In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which will never be destroyed, and that kingdom will not be left for another people; it will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, but it will itself endure forever.
OK.
Now did God or did He not, in Christ set up a kingdom which will never be destroyed, and that kingdom will not be left for another people. Will His Kingdom endure forever.
The Roman empire collapsed and died you know.
Decline of the Roman Empire
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Once again....Daniel mentioned 4 kingdoms. Not 5000 that might come after - thats not the Lords concern here.
*world
Romans 10:18
But I say, surely they have never heard, have they? Indeed they have; "THEIR VOICE HAS GONE OUT INTO ALL THE EARTH, AND THEIR WORDS TO THE ENDS OF THE WORLD."
γην noun - accusative singular feminine
ge ghay: soil; by extension a region, or the solid part or the whole of the terrene globe (including the occupants in each application) -- country, earth(-ly), ground, land, world.
οικουμενης noun - genitive singular feminine
oikoumene oy-kou-men'-ay: land, i.e. the (terrene part of the) globe; specially, the Roman empire -- earth, world.
Colossians 1:6
that has come to you. All over the world this gospel is bearing fruit and growing, just as it has been doing among you since the day you heard it and understood God's grace in all its truth.
Colossians 1:23
if indeed you continue in the faith firmly established and steadfast, and not moved away from the hope of the gospel that you have heard, which was proclaimed in all creation under heaven, and of which I, Paul, was made a minister.
So dont we see that the kingdom is established, the Gospel went out to the known world of Jesus day, and The Lord continues to add day by day those who are being saved...jew and greek.
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Why are you so dishonest in dialogue. Resorting to public ridicule of my posts just because you wont address the bulk of scripture and questions posted.
I didnt ask about Christ prophesying (and yes Jesus is a Prophet) the destruction of Jerusalem.
I asked when did God prophesy that they would not come to the truth as you assert here:
You make it seem as God did not know and they could somehow fool him and come to truth when he prophesied they would not
Can you concede that you are mixing OT prophesies that found fulfillment at Calvary, and that you refuse to understand that some prophesies look forward to NEW JERUSALEM and eternity.
No I do not ignore them. I see they are fulfilled in Jesus (Whom you sideline), and will be ultimately fulfilled in the new creation (eternity)....But you insert a 1,000 year rule on old earth so I am not surprised you cant see it.
Nice try EG. But not very honorable to do what you do:
I will ask again. When did God give prophesies that they (all Israel) would not come to the truth.
What do you mean by THE CHURCH.
I didnt ask about Christ prophesying (and yes Jesus is a Prophet) the destruction of Jerusalem.
I asked when did God prophesy that they would not come to the truth as you assert here:
You make it seem as God did not know and they could somehow fool him and come to truth when he prophesied they would not
Can you concede that you are mixing OT prophesies that found fulfillment at Calvary, and that you refuse to understand that some prophesies look forward to NEW JERUSALEM and eternity.
No I do not ignore them. I see they are fulfilled in Jesus (Whom you sideline), and will be ultimately fulfilled in the new creation (eternity)....But you insert a 1,000 year rule on old earth so I am not surprised you cant see it.
Nice try EG. But not very honorable to do what you do:
I will ask again. When did God give prophesies that they (all Israel) would not come to the truth.
What do you mean by THE CHURCH.
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No they were asking when shall these things be (the temple) AND what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? Stop making it up.
My Bible is clear on this topic and you being a lip pleaser.
You chose not the word of God, the Bible verses, the food of God the living water of the word.
But instead you chose this, instead of choosing the word which is Jesus.
Stop making it up.
In my Bible that makes you a lip pleaser and not a servant of the lord.
My Bible says, he that is of God hears Gods word
My Bible says, my sheep hear his voice.
My Bible says, many false prophets shall arise
My Bible says concerning Matt24, Take heed that no man deceive you.
Sorry buddy but that puts you in that category false prophets a lip pleaser and not of his sheep.
Your just another worldly religion you know the guys with the big hats and the funny priests collars and the long dresses.
Nothing to do with Jesus, nothing to do with the children of god, nothing to do with the holy spirit, and nothing to do with the quickening of the spirit, just another worldly religion that gives lip service.
No more about the temple in that chapter, but the emphasis is on his coming and the end of the world.
Note
6, but the end is not yet.
13 he that shall endure unto the end.
14 and then shall the end come.
21 since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
27 so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
37 so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
39 so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
42 for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
44 Son of man cometh.
46 whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. 48 My lord delayeth his coming
50The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of.
So you can see, the emphasis is on the coming and the end of the world nothing about the temple after verse 2 and 3.
My Bible is clear on this topic and you being a lip pleaser.
You chose not the word of God, the Bible verses, the food of God the living water of the word.
But instead you chose this, instead of choosing the word which is Jesus.
Stop making it up.
In my Bible that makes you a lip pleaser and not a servant of the lord.
My Bible says, he that is of God hears Gods word
My Bible says, my sheep hear his voice.
My Bible says, many false prophets shall arise
My Bible says concerning Matt24, Take heed that no man deceive you.
Sorry buddy but that puts you in that category false prophets a lip pleaser and not of his sheep.
Your just another worldly religion you know the guys with the big hats and the funny priests collars and the long dresses.
Nothing to do with Jesus, nothing to do with the children of god, nothing to do with the holy spirit, and nothing to do with the quickening of the spirit, just another worldly religion that gives lip service.
No more about the temple in that chapter, but the emphasis is on his coming and the end of the world.
Note
6, but the end is not yet.
13 he that shall endure unto the end.
14 and then shall the end come.
21 since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
27 so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
37 so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
39 so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
42 for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
44 Son of man cometh.
46 whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. 48 My lord delayeth his coming
50The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of.
So you can see, the emphasis is on the coming and the end of the world nothing about the temple after verse 2 and 3.
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shout out to all my peps who need to hear what God says about His children.
The Truth About Me Mandisa (lyrics) - YouTube
just cause they dangle the bait and try to hook you with their poison doesn't mean you have to bite, though the thought is tempting at times, I remind my kids biting is bad.
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just cause they dangle the bait and try to hook you with their poison doesn't mean you have to bite, though the thought is tempting at times, I remind my kids biting is bad.
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNi3JRWiZJg[/video]
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well if we were talking at a lunch table for all to hear. Yes i see your point. But in here I don't think that much to be the case (unless your telling the same person the same repeating yourself) there is alot of threads and alot of pages to go through, People might not be able to find what you said, thus need to repeat.
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And here we go again. do you even read what you post?
I asked.
When did the time of the GENTILES come to an end. And this was your answer? I did not ask about jews or their time, so again we go off on tangents and you do not answer the question correctly, then get upset when I confront you on it, and repeat the same wrong answer.
Is jerusalem a city of God today? No
is jerusalem a city who is inhabited by the people who were given the city by God today? No
Is Jerusalem still in gentile hands today? Yes.
Who has control of jerusalem today? it is split, Catholic Christian, Christian Christian, Muslim, and jew. This it is still being trampled as we speak
The correct answer to the question, When did the trampling of Jerusalem come to an end would be, It has not yet happened.
Nothing else you posted had anythingn to do with the question I posed. This was not worth looking at. Can you stick to topic please?
I asked.
When did the time of the GENTILES come to an end. And this was your answer? I did not ask about jews or their time, so again we go off on tangents and you do not answer the question correctly, then get upset when I confront you on it, and repeat the same wrong answer.
Is jerusalem a city of God today? No
is jerusalem a city who is inhabited by the people who were given the city by God today? No
Is Jerusalem still in gentile hands today? Yes.
Who has control of jerusalem today? it is split, Catholic Christian, Christian Christian, Muslim, and jew. This it is still being trampled as we speak
The correct answer to the question, When did the trampling of Jerusalem come to an end would be, It has not yet happened.
Nothing else you posted had anythingn to do with the question I posed. This was not worth looking at. Can you stick to topic please?
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I am trying to get you to see some of the stuff you post does not make sense. and is just quite out there, especially when you say stuff like Jesus (who is God and also well versed in OT scripture) could have known Jerusalem was going to be destroyed. I mean really??
And I did not say Jesus needed to prophesy, I said he knew. How did he know? Ot prophesy.
Daniel was told the city and sanctuary (jerusalem) would be destroyed and trampled after messiah was cut off. Did you forget this passage? there are also other passages which show this.. are you still going to deny it?
1. i never denied many prophesies were fulfilled with Christ.
2. No "father" of the nation of Isreal walked or lived in the new jerusalem. OT prophesy states God will bring them back to the land their fathers walked on, Lived in, and loved, The land they were promised. The can not be the new jerusalem. so no I will not concede a doctrine which is not true, and not scripturally supported without twisting the word of God.
You see them, But you can't answer the questions asked about them? Then how can I possible agree with you?
I did not insert a 1000 year time, God did by telling us he would rule for 1000 years. your argument is with God not me.
yeah, I guess being shown you are in error is does not feel good. So I can see your frustration. I used to get frustrated also, and hide it or try to run from it so I did not have to admit I made an error.
Where did this come from? Never asked that, and it was never inserted.
The question was did Jesus know Jerusalem would be destroyed or not? and "all Isreal rejecting Christ" where do you get this?
the church would be anyone from adam and eve until the last person alive on earth who accepted Gods provision for salvation. However it was not called the church until some time in NT times. I more like the term the body of Christ, or God adopted sons and daughters. or those who are saved by Gods love
The church will be here on earth until the end.
And I did not say Jesus needed to prophesy, I said he knew. How did he know? Ot prophesy.
Daniel was told the city and sanctuary (jerusalem) would be destroyed and trampled after messiah was cut off. Did you forget this passage? there are also other passages which show this.. are you still going to deny it?
1. i never denied many prophesies were fulfilled with Christ.
2. No "father" of the nation of Isreal walked or lived in the new jerusalem. OT prophesy states God will bring them back to the land their fathers walked on, Lived in, and loved, The land they were promised. The can not be the new jerusalem. so no I will not concede a doctrine which is not true, and not scripturally supported without twisting the word of God.
You see them, But you can't answer the questions asked about them? Then how can I possible agree with you?
I did not insert a 1000 year time, God did by telling us he would rule for 1000 years. your argument is with God not me.
yeah, I guess being shown you are in error is does not feel good. So I can see your frustration. I used to get frustrated also, and hide it or try to run from it so I did not have to admit I made an error.
Where did this come from? Never asked that, and it was never inserted.
The question was did Jesus know Jerusalem would be destroyed or not? and "all Isreal rejecting Christ" where do you get this?
the church would be anyone from adam and eve until the last person alive on earth who accepted Gods provision for salvation. However it was not called the church until some time in NT times. I more like the term the body of Christ, or God adopted sons and daughters. or those who are saved by Gods love
The church will be here on earth until the end.
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lol. You asked where God said he would do this in 2000 years.
I asked where anyone said God said this would happen in 200 years. I have never heard this said. And your upset because I asked it?
As for God giving them time. Did God give them time? He knew they would not accept , we know this by the FACT the OT says God would destroy jerusalem, And Christ himself made the same statement, He did not say I will destroy if you do not repent, He said this will happen. It had nothing to do with God waiting to see if they would repent.
as for the rest. Those are facts as supported by the OT. So I do not get why you are so upset. How did I twist things. If I misunderstood you, All you had to say it and rephrase the question.
I asked where anyone said God said this would happen in 200 years. I have never heard this said. And your upset because I asked it?
As for God giving them time. Did God give them time? He knew they would not accept , we know this by the FACT the OT says God would destroy jerusalem, And Christ himself made the same statement, He did not say I will destroy if you do not repent, He said this will happen. It had nothing to do with God waiting to see if they would repent.
as for the rest. Those are facts as supported by the OT. So I do not get why you are so upset. How did I twist things. If I misunderstood you, All you had to say it and rephrase the question.
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