Did the Thief on the cross Go to heave that very day

[Complete_In_Him]

I can give you a heads-up on why kjv matters in this instance, since I use the tactic myself. Because if you read it in any other version, the sentence changes enough to deflate the point.

And that's not to suggest Complete is a KJVist. I'm just saying I know that I prefer the KJ version to prove my point about salvation is wrought by God alone, because no other version uses that way-cool-ought-not-to-be-obsolete word "wrought." And my understanding of the word wrought just doesn't cut it when posting the modern version and it's only "work." "Wrought" just sounds more powerful than work. (Example unrelated to current topic, but it is an insider's tip of why the vast majority of us get our proof text from different versions of the Bible. Because one version makes it sound exactly how we're hearing it in our head. Sometimes we're right. Sometimes we forget God is righter. And sometimes the two are the same thing -- it's right because that's how God meant it to be.)

Thanks, even though we all know I choose to use one bible and it is the kjv. But, I guess the difference between me and kjonlyist is, (well I wonder this very point sometimes -_- ), but I guess I leave the matter up to personal choice. I don't tell people they cannot be of service to the cause of Christ if they use other versions... is that what people think kjonlyist do, idknow? I don't think they do, I think they are a little misunderstood by the masses, honestly.

 

[trofimus]

I can give you a heads-up on why kjv matters in this instance, since I use the tactic myself. Because if you read it in any other version, the sentence changes enough to deflate the point.

And that's not to suggest Complete is a KJVist. I'm just saying I know that I prefer the KJ version to prove my point about salvation is wrought by God alone, because no other version uses that way-cool-ought-not-to-be-obsolete word "wrought." And my understanding of the word wrought just doesn't cut it when posting the modern version and it's only "work." "Wrought" just sounds more powerful than work. (Example unrelated to current topic, but it is an insider's tip of why the vast majority of us get our proof text from different versions of the Bible. Because one version makes it sound exactly how we're hearing it in our head. Sometimes we're right. Sometimes we forget God is righter. And sometimes the two are the same thing -- it's right because that's how God meant it to be.)

It sounds like an irony to me... so I will take it in such way and in return I will give you big smile

 

[PilgrimPassingThru]

Oh, that's fine, but when it comes to "the sense" and the instruction... the doctrine, correction, reproof... flows to where?

I would guess the heart

 

[iwant2serve]

As some have already said, Jesus did not ascend to heaven until the third day, Scripture is clear. First, He descended into the lower parts of the earth to preach to the spirits in prison, then He preached the gospel to those in Abraham's bosom which was paradise. On the third day, He translated paradise to heaven setting the captives free. Today, paradise is located in the third heaven.

The Lord's spirit (not Spirit) went back to God the Father, His body was in the tomb, and His soul was in the lower parts of the earth where hell is located.

Have you looked at the word spirit when Jesus said he commends his spirit to God? The word spirit there in Greek is pneúma which means, wind, or breath. That is why the following statement says he gave up the ghost which means he life left his body. In Genesis it records that God breath into man and he became a living soul. So what spirit did God breath into man?

 

[John146]

Agree with what you said. The spirit was life to the body. The spirit left the body of Jesus and returned to the Father. I don't quite understand the reasoning of your post.

Have you looked at the word spirit when Jesus said he commends his spirit to God? The word spirit there in Greek is pneúma which means, wind, or breath. That is why the following statement says he gave up the ghost which means he life left his body. In Genesis it records that God breath into man and he became a living soul. So what spirit did God breath into man?