hi WlTx
i agree this is a sad error for the jews and one the christians must repair.
you're right there's no "rapture" as the dispensationalists claim it: what we see is the CHANGE from mortal to immortal for saved people. that CHANGE happens when Christ Comes to Judge.
but: we can absolutely prove that the dispensational model is not only false, it reaches into all other critical doctrines (we just saw that with the bizarre partition between jews and gentiles).
the long and the short of it is, that system is aiding an abetting in the building of Mystery Babylon The Great who will actually persecute us and have us put to death (if God ordains it), as well as scores of others.
we can know the season based on what has already been fulfilled, and what is happening in the world - unfortunately the dispensational model points christians in exactly the wrong direction.
if that were really true, you won't be trying to get folks to understand your position on universalism.
its just that we all have different callings.
this is true: FOR THOSE UNIFIED IN THE FAITH DELIVERED ONCE FOR ALL TO THE SAINTS.
not all are in that unity.
cool.good post
zone
My thoughts, present "beliefs", (which I am sure dispensationalist will tear apart to shreds, accusing me of false doctrine and of the devil, thus being condemned/judged by men ):
1) God is in control of all things - good and bad (of which bad is good)
2) The Bible must be taken as a whole and not as dispensationists divide OT covenants are abolished (note: not be confused of which only OT sacrifices eneded with Jesus' cruxifiction) and they divide in the NT that Israel is not included, in part or in whole..
1) God is in control of all things - good and bad (of which bad is good)
2) The Bible must be taken as a whole and not as dispensationists divide OT covenants are abolished (note: not be confused of which only OT sacrifices eneded with Jesus' cruxifiction) and they divide in the NT that Israel is not included, in part or in whole..
3) We know only in part of God's Plan in the fullness of time (end of ages).
4) I see no revelation of rapture, pre-trib, mid-trib or post-trib. This view is not definitive, of any, of proving or dis-proving through scriptures - thus, those many taking dogmatic sides, of which is totally futile and a big waste of time and energy. ..
4) I see no revelation of rapture, pre-trib, mid-trib or post-trib. This view is not definitive, of any, of proving or dis-proving through scriptures - thus, those many taking dogmatic sides, of which is totally futile and a big waste of time and energy. ..
but: we can absolutely prove that the dispensational model is not only false, it reaches into all other critical doctrines (we just saw that with the bizarre partition between jews and gentiles).
the long and the short of it is, that system is aiding an abetting in the building of Mystery Babylon The Great who will actually persecute us and have us put to death (if God ordains it), as well as scores of others.
5) I see no proof that Revelations is for a definiteive date or totally literal. It is impossible to take so much picture painting descriptions and all see it the same way...
6) I don't really give a flip about "the end times" and all this confusion of right doctrine vs wrong doctrine. Stating again, "totally futile and a big waste time and energy"....
its just that we all have different callings.
7) The only right doctrine is Christ/Crucified/Love All as God our Father loves ALL and He has no plans for eternal harm of all or part of His children. His love for all, is without prejudice or exclusion of any.
not all are in that unity.
My beliefs, this not being a complete or unabridged edition. is just that, mine, and I do not hold to tight to it, because God is in control and He holds the compass.
zone
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