Do we decide to be saved?
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What does John Calvin have to do with the faith that comes from hearing Christ as the first works he works in us?
Walking after the flesh is not walking after the faith of Christ. In all things he must do the first works before we can believe . It is the work of God that we can believe Him not seen. Do the first work believe God .And not our own selves after the imagination of ones heart. Trusting ones own self is not hearing God.
Walking after the flesh is not walking after the faith of Christ. In all things he must do the first works before we can believe . It is the work of God that we can believe Him not seen. Do the first work believe God .And not our own selves after the imagination of ones heart. Trusting ones own self is not hearing God.
Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the firstworks; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.Rev2
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that is ridiculous
we are forgiven of our sin BECAUSE of God's grace, which, by the way, does not come and go
there is a vast difference between sinning, even on purpose, and actually continuing in sin
however, God provides a way to tap us on the shoulder, as He did with David, to draw our attention to what we need to turn from if we do not do it ourselves.
we don't 'loose' God's grace if we sin
grace does not provide perfection. we are perfected IN Christ and we do not loose Him EVER if we belong to Him
we are forgiven of our sin BECAUSE of God's grace, which, by the way, does not come and go
there is a vast difference between sinning, even on purpose, and actually continuing in sin
however, God provides a way to tap us on the shoulder, as He did with David, to draw our attention to what we need to turn from if we do not do it ourselves.
we don't 'loose' God's grace if we sin
grace does not provide perfection. we are perfected IN Christ and we do not loose Him EVER if we belong to Him
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you know, that is something I have wondered about for years. I know people who are just like that. They can really hurt someone and have no problem ever apologizing. It seems they just smack their lips and have no problem praying, going to church and seem to have no conviction.
In fact, one of them (I'm thinking of 2 in particular that I know very well) will go so far as to point out what he sees as other's sins and will say he does not need to confess any sin because he confessed them to God
His wife left him a fews years back. I guess so
Do we decide to accept Gods offer of grace? We cannot save ourselves but Gods grace has resolved that problem in His Son Christ for us. So do we decide to accept Gods grace?
We are all Arminian when we come to Christ. Some then become so special that they are chosen to be Calvinists.
If we are not required to accept Gods offer of grace then why does God commission His Holy Spirit to bring conviction of sin, of Christ's righteousness and Gods eternal wrath on sin? John 16:8-11
For the cause of Christ
Roger
We are all Arminian when we come to Christ. Some then become so special that they are chosen to be Calvinists.
If we are not required to accept Gods offer of grace then why does God commission His Holy Spirit to bring conviction of sin, of Christ's righteousness and Gods eternal wrath on sin? John 16:8-11
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Calvinists largely refuse to concede that the logic of their doctrine inevitably concludes that God is the author of sin. John Calvin wrote, “First, it must be observed that the will of God is the cause of all things that happen in the world; and yet God is not the author of evil.” The statement is inherently contradictory and illogical.
However, according to what they believe, we were ordained to oppose their theology
However, according to what they believe, we were ordained to oppose their theology
It is a major tragedy that the majority of Reformers failed to reject Augustine and his warped theology (since they had already rejected the Roman Catholic Church). And what you have stated is true. Reformed Theology (Calvinism) ultimately makes God responsible for all the sin and evil in this world, even though they try to dodge that by obfuscation. It also makes God elect some for salvation and many for damnation. This again is obfuscated by calling their teachings "The Doctrines of Grace" when they are the exact opposite.
Even in the last point Calvin was wrong. Yes, the Bible teaches eternal security (John 10:28-29, Ephesians 1:13-14, Romans 8:38-39). But not in form of perseverance of the saints.
https://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Doctrines/Calvinism/mustfaithendure.pdf
https://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Doctrines/Calvinism/mustfaithendure.pdf
That huge log be blinding your perception. Let's take a gander:
Yes, disingenuously you've done just that. You've skipped right on past the Scripture text mentioned, the need for proper context that was mentioned, ignoring it all in order to go ad hominem. To this I agree with you; you've ignored the post in order to criticize the poster.
Oh, please with the sanctimony. You really should follow your own advice before offering any advice to others. Try it yourself, no?
Yes, disingenuously you've done just that. You've skipped right on past the Scripture text mentioned, the need for proper context that was mentioned, ignoring it all in order to go ad hominem. To this I agree with you; you've ignored the post in order to criticize the poster.
Oh, please with the sanctimony. You really should follow your own advice before offering any advice to others. Try it yourself, no?
I don't know much about Calvin, the man. What I have read from both sides, the pro-Calvin and the con-Calvin, its hard to tell which has the more accurate accounts.
But we don't know that he didn't repent of this. I have read many things about him, but I am ambivalent towards him. He's gone to await his reward.
But we don't know that he didn't repent of this. I have read many things about him, but I am ambivalent towards him. He's gone to await his reward.
Calvinists largely refuse to concede that the logic of their doctrine inevitably concludes that God is the author of sin. John Calvin wrote, “First, it must be observed that the will of God is the cause of all things that happen in the world; and yet God is not the author of evil.” The statement is inherently contradictory and illogical.
However, according to what they believe, we were ordained to oppose their theology
However, according to what they believe, we were ordained to oppose their theology
Adam can only blame Adam for what he did. God did not twist his arm and make him do it.
Paul writing to the believers in Rome...
Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God—this is your true and proper worship. Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will.For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the faith God has distributed to each of you.[Romans 12:1-3]
The Hebrews writer...
Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, fixing our eyes on Jesus, the pioneer and perfecter of faith.[Hebrews 12:1-2a]
The very faith that we have, when we exercised it at the moment we're saved, was given to us by God.
And pray that we may be delivered from wicked and evil people, for not everyone has faith.[2 Thessalonians 3:2]
The reason why some ppl don't have faith is that God has not given them this faith.
Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God—this is your true and proper worship. Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will.For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the faith God has distributed to each of you.[Romans 12:1-3]
The Hebrews writer...
Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, fixing our eyes on Jesus, the pioneer and perfecter of faith.[Hebrews 12:1-2a]
The very faith that we have, when we exercised it at the moment we're saved, was given to us by God.
And pray that we may be delivered from wicked and evil people, for not everyone has faith.[2 Thessalonians 3:2]
The reason why some ppl don't have faith is that God has not given them this faith.
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