Do we follow the Teaching of Christ

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p_rehbein

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Would you be so kind as to provide a List of the Commandments of Christ that we can ignore? Wow! That would be a great help............

Some believe to follow the teaching of Christ they must strive to follow each and every literal command of Christ. This would condemn every christian I have ever met, for I have met no one who has even tried to obey each and every literal command of Christ.
Happily we are not all condemned, for Paul tells us the true way:

Carry each others burdens(love them) and so fulfill the law of Christ gal6:2

You can either believe Christs commands are examples of love God and love your neighbour and follow Paul's words.

Or, you can believe something you never will practice
 

p_rehbein

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Why not go to Scripture?

1 John 2:6 - He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

1 Corinthians 11:1 - Be ye followers of me, even as I also [am] of Christ.

1 Peter 2:21 - For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:

Ephesians 5:1-2 - Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children; (Read More...)

John 13:13-17 - Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for [so] I am. (Read More...)

John 14:15 - If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Galatians 3:27 - For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Ephesians 4:22-24 - That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; (Read More...)

Romans 8:29 - For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate [to be] conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Proverbs 3:5-6 - Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. (Read More...)

Titus 3:1-8 - Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work, (Read More...)

Romans 8:2-8 - For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. (Read More...)

Philippians 2:5 - Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

Luke 6:46 - And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

Matthew 11:29 - Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.


Pretty clear to me...........
 
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Would you be so kind as to provide a List of the Commandments of Christ that we can ignore? Wow! That would be a great help............
Can we look at it another way?

How many of Christs commandments would we ignore if we love God and our neighbour with all our hearts?
 
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Would you be so kind as to provide a List of the Commandments of Christ that we can ignore? Wow! That would be a great help............
BTW

How many do you ignore?

Or are you the first christian i have come across in fifty years who tries to obey them all?
 

JaumeJ

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All of these commandments of our Lord are from His Teaching. Of course none of us would ever want to deliberately disobey our Savior because He has done all for us in His perfect love for us.

Here is wisdom, we are not perfect but we are being perfected; the work He began in us He will finish on His Day....This is saying the same as you have said without suggesting we ignore anything deliberately. The pivotal wors in this post on His day, He is perfecting US, and deliberately......we would never do that.

May God bless you and hold you close always, amen.


Can we look at it another way?

How many of Christs commandments would we ignore if we love God and our neighbour with all our hearts?
 

p_rehbein

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It is your assertion, not mine. Lemme try again.......can you please provide a List of the Commandments Christ gave the Church that we can ignore?




Can we look at it another way?

How many of Christs commandments would we ignore if we love God and our neighbour with all our hearts?
 

Blain

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It is your assertion, not mine. Lemme try again.......can you please provide a List of the Commandments Christ gave the Church that we can ignore?
You ask for the impossible my friend but something tells me you already knew that :)
 
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Jesus said "Go and sell all that you have and follow Me."

Do we still follow that commandment today? No of course not. Without rightly dividing the word - we end up with lot's of mixture and crazy doctrines.
 
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It is your assertion, not mine. Lemme try again.......can you please provide a List of the Commandments Christ gave the Church that we can ignore?
Well I've ignored not inviting friends and family home for a meal, but rather the lame, blind and beggars so I might receive my reward in heaven

Now lets do this together. If I'm prepared to, surely you will be willing.

Do you ignore that command or fully obey it?

Then we can move on
 
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p_rehbein

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I did........and He gave back to me for doing so.............just saying........but, I understand what you are saying.

Jesus said "Go and sell all that you have and follow Me."

Do we still follow that commandment today? No of course not. Without rightly dividing the word - we end up with lot's of mixture and crazy doctrines.
 

gb9

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Jesus said "Go and sell all that you have and follow Me."

Do we still follow that commandment today? No of course not. Without rightly dividing the word - we end up with lot's of mixture and crazy doctrines.
the key is rightly dividing the Words of Truth. it is dangerous to isolate verses and build theology around them.
 

p_rehbein

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I think your mistake is using the word "ignore." There is a HUGE difference between failing to keep a Commandment from time to time, and IGNORING the existence of the Commandment.

To IGNORE a Commandment is to suggest that it doesn't matter whatsoever, and a person can pick and choose which Commandments they wish to IGNORE. To "slip and mess up" from time to time is human.......and, when one does this, they must recognize that they have slipped and messed up, and repent, and ask Christ to forgive them for doing so, and strive to do better in the future.

Now, if you insist in asserting there are Commandments we can simply IGNORE, for they are not relevant to the Church today, I would really appreciate you providing a List of these Commandments.




Well I've ignored not inviting friends and family him for a meal, but rather the lame, blind and beggars so I might receive my reward I heaven

Now lets do this together. If I'm prepared to, surely you will be willing.

Do you ignore that command or fully obey it?

Then we can move on
 

JaumeJ

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Glad you are here...................cu tomorrow..........good night all, and may you be blessed in Christ always..........
 

p_rehbein

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If I am truly the FIRST believer you have come across who strives to walk Christ-like.......that is a sad, sad thing for you. Why on earth would ANY Christian NOT strive to walk Christ-like? Do YOU not strive to do so?


BTW

How many do you ignore?

Or are you the first christian i have come across in fifty years who tries to obey them all?
 

p_rehbein

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So, I can only believe you do not have a List of the Commandments we can ignore? Just going to play "dodge ball" and pretend you did not make the assertion?

Hmm........


No fibbing with your answers!
 
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I think your mistake is using the word "ignore." There is a HUGE difference between failing to keep a Commandment from time to time, and IGNORING the existence of the Commandment.

To IGNORE a Commandment is to suggest that it doesn't matter whatsoever, and a person can pick and choose which Commandments they wish to IGNORE. To "slip and mess up" from time to time is human.......and, when one does this, they must recognize that they have slipped and messed up, and repent, and ask Christ to forgive them for doing so, and strive to do better in the future.

Now, if you insist in asserting there are Commandments we can simply IGNORE, for they are not relevant to the Church today, I would really appreciate you providing a List of these Commandments.
Well I disagree with you. If we don't keep a commandment we ignore it in my book. Now as you didn't say you fully obeyed the commandment mentioned I have to take it you ignore that one.

My original post concerning this was Paul's statement

Carry each others burdens( love them) and so fulfill the law of Christ gal6:2

That seems to clearly say to me we don't look to the letter of each and every literal command of Christ and seek to obey them all but show love to others. The more we love others, the more in line we are with what Christ taught.
I guess you disagree with that
 
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So, I can only believe you do not have a List of the Commandments we can ignore? Just going to play "dodge ball" and pretend you did not make the assertion?

Hmm........
Actually I think you are playing dodge ball with gal6:2 hmmmm
 

p_rehbein

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CONTEXT is a wonderful thing........

Galatians
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1 .) Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.
2 .) Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.
3 .) For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself.
4 .) But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another.
5 .) For every man shall bear his own burden.
6 .) Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things.
7 .) Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 .) For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 .) And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
10
.) As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.


 

p_rehbein

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What I do or do not do, believe or do not believe is not relevant in this........it was YOU who made the assertion, not me. As you seem unable to provide a List of the Commandments we are able to IGNORE, I can only believe you misspoke in your assertion. As well, if you do not understand the difference between "omission" and "commission," then mayhaps you should start there?

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Well I disagree with you. If we don't keep a commandment we ignore it in my book. Now as you didn't say you fully obeyed the commandment mentioned I have to take it you ignore that one.

My original post concerning this was Paul's statement

Carry each others burdens( love them) and so fulfill the law of Christ gal6:2

That seems to clearly say to me we don't look to the letter of each and every literal command of Christ and seek to obey them all but show love to others. The more we love others, the more in line we are with what Christ taught.
I guess you disagree with that