Do you agree with abortion? please explain.

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Do you agree with abortion?

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tryingtofindhim

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I was just wondering what people thought about abortion and their reasons. I would say I agree with it in certain cases like teens and rape situations but other than that I don't agree with it, but I wouldn't look down on someone because they had an abortion.
 
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carpetmanswife

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I can understand why a person may consider an abortion after being raped or being a teenager but that doesnt make it right ,there is always another option...adoption, in no way should abortion be used as a form of birth control as many people have used it for" o i had a tad too much to drink ,now im pregnant so poof! i can fix that quick and ez..:(' just wrong no matter how you look at it .imho
 
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I dont agree with it but neither do I believe it is murder.
 
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miktre

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I dont agree with it but neither do I believe it is murder.
Wow, What do you prefer to call the taking of an innocent human beings life? Convenient?
 
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miktre

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I not trying to fight here, seriously what do you call it, if not murder?
 
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dustyzafu

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I was just wondering what people thought about abortion and their reasons. I would say I agree with it in certain cases like teens and rape situations but other than that I don't agree with it, but I wouldn't look down on someone because they had an abortion.
Leaving aside the question of abortion in particular for a second - since I suspect that's been covered elsewhere - what do you mean by agreeing with something?

Day in, day out, we're asked to form and share opinions on things that don't concern us directly. Difficulties and struggles we really can't understand until we're in the situation. Something as awesome as life and death deserves more than a few quick sentences from strangers, though. Abortion deserves more than a thumbs up or down, an "agree" or "not agree." Even if our opinion turns out to be correct, tossing it out with the same respect that people talk about sports teams makes it seem like trash.

It's a sickness and the internet only makes it worse. Bush is either a holy man or a mass murderer. Obama is either the antichrist Hitler or not. Gay marriage will either destroy America or bring us an enlightened age. There's no room for in-between. Everything boils down to a word or two. You've already seen it here - it's either murder or it's not.

You have two seconds: agree or not?
 
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Slepsog4

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Induced abortion is murder ... plain and simple. It is the willful taking of an innocent life.

They are usually performed for habitual fornicators for whom a child is a mere inconvenience.
 
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miktre

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Actual percentage of U.S. abortions in "hard cases" are estimated as follows: in cases of rape or incest, 0.3%; in cases of risk to maternal health or life, 1%; and in cases of fetal abnormality, 0.5%. About 98% of abortions in the United States are elective, including socio-economic reasons or for birth control. This includes about 25% for primarily economic reasons.

Just found this, discuss.
 
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tryingtofindhim

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Leaving aside the question of abortion in particular for a second - since I suspect that's been covered elsewhere - what do you mean by agreeing with something?

Day in, day out, we're asked to form and share opinions on things that don't concern us directly. Difficulties and struggles we really can't understand until we're in the situation. Something as awesome as life and death deserves more than a few quick sentences from strangers, though. Abortion deserves more than a thumbs up or down, an "agree" or "not agree." Even if our opinion turns out to be correct, tossing it out with the same respect that people talk about sports teams makes it seem like trash.

It's a sickness and the internet only makes it worse. Bush is either a holy man or a mass murderer. Obama is either the antichrist Hitler or not. Gay marriage will either destroy America or bring us an enlightened age. There's no room for in-between. Everything boils down to a word or two. You've already seen it here - it's either murder or it's not.

You have two seconds: agree or not?
I mean are you for it or are you against it? Sorry for not clearly stating my question.
 

Kakashi

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Leaving aside the question of abortion in particular for a second - since I suspect that's been covered elsewhere - what do you mean by agreeing with something?

Day in, day out, we're asked to form and share opinions on things that don't concern us directly. Difficulties and struggles we really can't understand until we're in the situation. Something as awesome as life and death deserves more than a few quick sentences from strangers, though. Abortion deserves more than a thumbs up or down, an "agree" or "not agree." Even if our opinion turns out to be correct, tossing it out with the same respect that people talk about sports teams makes it seem like trash.

It's a sickness and the internet only makes it worse. Bush is either a holy man or a mass murderer. Obama is either the antichrist Hitler or not. Gay marriage will either destroy America or bring us an enlightened age. There's no room for in-between. Everything boils down to a word or two. You've already seen it here - it's either murder or it's not.

You have two seconds: agree or not?
i agree with you to a point. this is a bit different no? Judging a person's(Bush/obama's) character and the morality of their actions is up for debate in some cases and could get some compromise. However, abortion really IS murder or it is not. The word murder means to kill outside the law. Now, by the American standard, abortion is not murder because it's not against the law to get an abortion(outside of restrictions for minors). However, i think the bible speaks much differently on the matter. Either it's a human being that dies or it's not. There's really no in between on this that I can see.

As for cases of rape, I agree that adoption is a better option. If you consider the fetus a human being( which I do) then just because it was conceived by rape does not disqualify the child from being a person. In other words, the source of conception does not define its humanity, but its very being defines itself. I don't find rape a justification at all for abortion.
 
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Abortion is not called murder by any standard of laws in any country that I'm aware of, but if you can find an example in the law where it is called murder I'd be glad to see it. If every abortionist was charged and found guilty of murder the jails wouldn't cope.
 
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dustyzafu

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i agree with you to a point. this is a bit different no? Judging a person's(Bush/obama's) character and the morality of their actions is up for debate in some cases and could get some compromise. However, abortion really IS murder or it is not.
My point is not that we should compromise on our opinions, but that we shouldn't sit around all day casually trading succinct opinions on matters as weighty as abortion. We should try a little harder:

Even if our opinion turns out to be correct, tossing it out with the same respect that people talk about sports teams makes it seem like trash.
Instead of thumbs up, thumbs down, sound bytes like "it's murder," why aren't we discussing the care of those considering abortions? What about the care of those who have had abortions? Why aren't we discussing methods of keeping women from becoming pregnant when they don't want to be? Why aren't we talking about alternatives? Etc., etc.

Just because the question asked for thumbs up or down doesn't mean that's the right question. We can afford to come down out of the judge's booth and treat it more like the matter of life and death it is. It requires more than five minutes of our time if we're going to render a verdict to strangers.
 
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It's not really murder if you terminate what something is to become, you could say you "murder an embryo", but, by all definition of abortion and murder, - it's only murder after the baby is born. Saying abortion is murder is like saying you've killed a chicken everytime you eat a boiled egg.
 
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tryingtofindhim

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It's not really murder if you terminate what something is to become, you could say you "murder an embryo", but, by all definition of abortion and murder, - it's only murder after the baby is born. Saying abortion is murder is like saying you've killed a chicken everytime you eat a boiled egg.
very good point ! :) even though some people do think that.
 
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miktre

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It's not really murder if you terminate what something is to become, you could say you "murder an embryo", but, by all definition of abortion and murder, - it's only murder after the baby is born. Saying abortion is murder is like saying you've killed a chicken everytime you eat a boiled egg.
Chickens don't have a spiritual body.
 
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miktre

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Abortion is not called murder by any standard of laws in any country that I'm aware of, but if you can find an example in the law where it is called murder I'd be glad to see it. If every abortionist was charged and found guilty of murder the jails wouldn't cope.
Shouldn't let the status of our jails determine ones definition of murder. You seem to be referring to mans law while everyone else is referring to Gods law.
 
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that_one_guy

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its simply murder
 
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Shouldn't let the status of our jails determine ones definition of murder. You seem to be referring to mans law while everyone else is referring to Gods law.
Yet this is a "man's law" issue particularly with the policy making decisions of our governments, and also considering the word abortion isn't really in the bible.
 
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Where abouts in the bible does it say that governing authorities must adopt a christian definition of abortion as being murder? And what would that mean to society if abortion was classed as first degree murder?
 
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tryingtofindhim

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Well the definition of murder is the unlawful premeditated killing of one human by another. The definition of killing is causing death to another human being. A person isn't considered to have died until after they are born. Kind of like when someone has a miscarriage. The parents might have considered them to have died but by law they did not die. I hope that made sense.
 
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